PIP with new batch?

[surferdude123]

hi everyone

first just want to say i’ve been using dutch for close to a year now, roughly 11 months and everything is great, communication, shipping, product.

in fact so much so that i’ve recommended dutch to approximately 7 others locally, and 4 of which close friends.

now my concern…

my last order, i’ve been getting severe pip, and redness. i’ve been on gear 5 yrs and am a former flight paramedic so i’m very familiar with injection techniques to take out those 2 equations.

prior to this last order every. single. injection. was smooth. ZERO pip. like none. the only time i got a touch of it was a brief run of tren earlier this year but that’s normal for me when i run tren

currently i’m on an extended off season bulk running

TEST E 1500mg a week - dutch
EQ 1,000mg a week - dutch

aromasin once weekly. - pharm grade
estrogen is currently 25.

any ideas what’s going on??

thank you!!!

 

[Sickxlost]

hi everyone

first just want to say i’ve been using dutch for close to a year now, roughly 11 months and everything is great, communication, shipping, product.

in fact so much so that i’ve recommended dutch to approximately 7 others locally, and 4 of which close friends.

now my concern…

my last order, i’ve been getting severe pip, and redness. i’ve been on gear 5 yrs and am a former flight paramedic so i’m very familiar with injection techniques to take out those 2 equations.

prior to this last order every. single. injection. was smooth. ZERO pip. like none. the only time i got a touch of it was a brief run of tren earlier this year but that’s normal for me when i run tren

currently i’m on an extended off season bulk running

TEST E 1500mg a week - dutch
EQ 1,000mg a week - dutch

aromasin once weekly. - pharm grade
estrogen is currently 25.

any ideas what’s going on??

thank you!!!

Very strange to hear this as Dutch is known for zero pip gear. The process has been and still is the same. There are issues with raws atm but the raws used are not “recently purchased” so wish I could be of more help but it’s hard to say…

Did you recently switch from C to E or E to C?

 

[Bolan]

Have you used their test E before?

 

[Plate Rape]

Just pinned 1cc of their ultrabol last night in my quads and no pip. 1st injection of the ultrabol and was expecting some considering the dosage. Also using .3 cc of their sus with the ultrabol. Can’t speak for the compounds your running though. Just my experience.

 

[Nood]

Some guys get Pip from Test E.. have you used it before or normally Cyp?

 

[surferdude123]

Very strange to hear this as Dutch is known for zero pip gear. The process has been and still is the same. There are issues with raws atm but the raws used are not “recently purchased” so wish I could be of more help but it’s hard to say…

Did you recently switch from C to E or E to C?

no recent switch. always use E. C gives me a little bloof.

 

[surferdude123]

will continue to order and not in anyway throwing shade here just was confused that maybe the batches have changed or smth?

will be placing another order tmr.

 

[Sickxlost]

will continue to order and not in anyway throwing shade here just was confused that maybe the batches have changed or smth?

will be placing another order tmr.

We appreciate the continued support

 

[DUTCHUSA]

will continue to order and not in anyway throwing shade here just was confused that maybe the batches have changed or smth?

will be placing another order tmr.

Let me know I can send you TESTC vials for replacement, if you rather have those

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Let me know I can send you TESTC vials for replacement, if you rather have those

THIS is the way it should be done!!

2nd complaint about test e I've seen today.

We may have a situation here like we did years ago with Test E, but I hope not.

Well handled DUTCH!!!

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[Wardamn]

THIS is the way it should be done!!

2nd complaint about test e I've seen today.

We may have a situation here like we did years ago with Test E, but I hope not.

Well handled DUTCH!!!

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There has been news of some Test E raws going around.

Like you said similar to what happened a few years back. I don't think it's quite as wide spread currently. Hoping its not.

x2 on handling by Dutch

 

[DUTCHUSA]

Lately as everyone knows the issues have mostly been with powders, one way or another most of the sources are getting the same powders indirectly
Everything now is filtered through different pore sizing about 4 times in total,
we are being very cautious, I am investigating with Resellers if they have reports of this issue

 

[GIngram]

Nice to see a professional response!

 

[hdemmon446]

Just did my first shot of test C that I received last week. Within 2 hours I had some pain and swelling. I'll switch to a different botle next week and report back.

 

[Jdkx450]

Received a bottle of Test E yesterday with an awesome shirt. Due to this post I popped open the Test E for my pin this morning and put .5cc in my delt. So far no real PIP. I can tell I pinned there but that’s about it..normal for me and Test E if it’s not combined with another oil. Only posting as “feels” report from a current order. Obviously I don’t know if it’s from the same batch.

 

[kegger44]

no recent switch. always use E. C gives me a little bloof.

You like to fart in your partners mouth during sex when you take Test C? Dood that's fucking weird...

 

[DUTCHUSA]

Received a bottle of Test E yesterday with an awesome shirt. Due to this post I popped open the Test E for my pin this morning and put .5cc in my delt. So far no real PIP. I can tell I pinned there but that’s about it..normal for me and Test E if it’s not combined with another oil. Only posting as “feels” report from a current order. Obviously I don’t know if it’s from the same batch.

The bottles that were shipped out with the T-shirts were from the Old Batch
The new Batch just came in I will start shipping it tomorrow @Sickxlost will be checking it out too, he got the old one and will receive the new one to compare.

For those who are unsure about their vials just email me or message @Sickxlost we will reship new vials to every concerned customers.
For now it's kind of weird because I get no reports by email or from resellers, or any major complains, so far it's limited to this post. I hope it's obviously not something that will get further than this issue.
We stay alert and ready

 

[DUTCHUSA]

Just did my first shot of test C that I received last week. Within 2 hours I had some pain and swelling. I'll switch to a different botle next week and report back.

Please let me know so I can replace the necessary vials

 

[erichuff1994]

The bottles that were shipped out with the T-shirts were from the Old Batch
The new Batch just came in I will start shipping it tomorrow @Sickxlost will be checking it out too, he got the old one and will receive the new one to compare.

For those who are unsure about their vials just email me or message @Sickxlost we will reship new vials to every concerned customers.
For now it's kind of weird because I get no reports by email or from resellers, or any major complains, so far it's limited to this post. I hope it's obviously not something that will get further than this issue.
We stay alert and ready

Now that’s customer service. Good shit Dutch

 

[victortraves6]

The bottles that were shipped out with the T-shirts were from the Old Batch
The new Batch just came in I will start shipping it tomorrow @Sickxlost will be checking it out too, he got the old one and will receive the new one to compare.

For those who are unsure about their vials just email me or message @Sickxlost we will reship new vials to every concerned customers.
For now it's kind of weird because I get no reports by email or from resellers, or any major complains, so far it's limited to this post. I hope it's obviously not something that will get further than this issue.
We stay alert and ready

This is customer service at its best.


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[CompoundLifts31]

Just did my first shot of test C that I received last week. Within 2 hours I had some pain and swelling. I'll switch to a different botle next week and report back.

Virgin muscle is almost always going to have some level of PIP.

That third of fourth shot, you won't feel a thing, if done correctly.

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[hdemmon446]

Virgin muscle is almost always going to have some level of PIP.

That third of fourth shot, you won't feel a thing, if done correctly.

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Ive been on pharma grade trt for 2 years. Zero pain and didn't cause a big knot under my skin

 

[kegger44]

hi everyone

first just want to say i’ve been using dutch for close to a year now, roughly 11 months and everything is great, communication, shipping, product.

in fact so much so that i’ve recommended dutch to approximately 7 others locally, and 4 of which close friends.

now my concern…

my last order, i’ve been getting severe pip, and redness. i’ve been on gear 5 yrs and am a former flight paramedic so i’m very familiar with injection techniques to take out those 2 equations.

prior to this last order every. single. injection. was smooth. ZERO pip. like none. the only time i got a touch of it was a brief run of tren earlier this year but that’s normal for me when i run tren

currently i’m on an extended off season bulk running

TEST E 1500mg a week - dutch
EQ 1,000mg a week - dutch

aromasin once weekly. - pharm grade
estrogen is currently 25.

any ideas what’s going on??

thank you!!!

It's a bad batch of test. Send it back. My real question is why are you taking 1.5G of test a week? That's fucking ridiculous. I hit 1490 ng/dL with 350mg/week Test. What do you think you're achieving with 1.5G? Are you a pro bodybuilder prepping for the Olympia? Obviously not since you asked such a stupid question. Do you actually think your body using all of that test? I can assure you one thing you're getting all the negative sides that's for sure. You ever hear the phrase "point of diminishing returns"?

 

[Jdkx450]

Just a report. I received an order of Test E about a month ago and a free 1 with my shirt. Pinned with the one that came with my shirt (report a few comments earlier in this thread) and picked a bottle out of the order from a month ago and pinned yesterday. No PIP. Not sure of the batch but all seems smooth. Thanks for the shirt again and the awesome gear. @DUTCHUSA @Sickxlost

 

[DUTCHUSA]

the guys with PIP issue (I can count 2 at the moment) can reach out to me for replacement, right now @surferdude123 didn't request his replacement, I am ready to ship him new vials,
Other than this, since I got a little bit worried, I got the "Bad Batch" and the new Batch checked by a few trusted users and members, and they didn't report PIP issues.

 

[Sickxlost]

Just a report. I received an order of Test E about a month ago and a free 1 with my shirt. Pinned with the one that came with my shirt (report a few comments earlier in this thread) and picked a bottle out of the order from a month ago and pinned yesterday. No PIP. Not sure of the batch but all seems smooth. Thanks for the shirt again and the awesome gear. @DUTCHUSA @Sickxlost

We appreciate you reporting back my man! This is a strange one for sure as 100’s report good and a couple report pip.

 

[CompoundLifts31]

Probably just the individual as everyone reacts
differently to different oils/ compounds.

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[Sickxlost]

Probably just the individual as everyone reacts
differently to different oils/ compounds.

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That’s what we’re thinking.

 

[surferdude123]

Lately as everyone knows the issues have mostly been with powders, one way or another most of the sources are getting the same powders indirectly
Everything now is filtered through different pore sizing about 4 times in total,
we are being very cautious, I am investigating with Resellers if they have reports of this issue

thank you i appreciate this.

didn’t expect a bunch of negativity and backlash.

again, ive been on gear for 5 yrs so its not virgin muscle.

confirmed again with 2 more and it was just likely a bad batch of test.

nbd. it happens but as a loyal customer i’m not going to just sit in silence sucking my thumb lol

 

[surferdude123]

It's a bad batch of test. Send it back. My real question is why are you taking 1.5G of test a week? That's fucking ridiculous. I hit 1490 ng/dL with 350mg/week Test. What do you think you're achieving with 1.5G? Are you a pro bodybuilder prepping for the Olympia? Obviously not since you asked such a stupid question. Do you actually think your body using all of that test? I can assure you one thing you're getting all the negative sides that's for sure. You ever hear the phrase "point of diminishing returns"?

not sure what your point was to posting this?

i wasn’t asking about dosing regimens here.

and actually i feel better on a gram of test with solid blood work to prove it and almost zero sides than i do on 250-800mg a week.

thanks again for your input though.