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Hello Everyone,

Wow do I have a lot to learn. I am a total newbie on everything here, but I am incredibly grateful to have found an amazing forum like this.
Three months ago I started TRT, and that is leading me down a path of wanting just a little bit more. Next week I am getting my blood panels back from my first 3 months, and after reviewing those I would like to step things up a little.
I have no idea where to start, so I am spending loads of time here to catch up.

I am 52, I am taking two shots a week of Test E 200ml, I believe that makes 140ml a week for me. Honestly, I do not feel a huge difference mentally. Physically there is some changes in my body composition, but it could really come down to I am spending a lot more time working out than I have ever done in my life. I am looking forward to those blood panels.

Any advice is appreciated, so excited to be here.

Thank you!
 

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Welcome to ASF! You have come to the right place to learn sir.

Dosages are in mg (milligrams) so you have test 200 which means it's 200mg/ml (200 milligrams per 1 milliliter)

So how many ml do you inject in each shot? 0.5ml injected twice a week would be 200mg per week. If you're on 140mg then you would be injecting 0.7ml twice per week. Make sense?

I'd say the best thing you could do right now would be to stay at the dosage your doctor has you on to give your body time to acclimate to having a proper amount of test again because I'm going to guess it's been a while since you have.

Your blood work should show what your testosterone level is so your doctor will know if your dosage needs adjusted to be where he/she wants you to be.

You're going to want to get your dosage dialed in with your doctor before you venture out into anything anabolics wise. Eventually once you have a set protocol established with your doctor you can do a "blast" which would involve getting more test and upping your dosage for X amount of time. Say 12 weeks. 300mg a week would be a great starting dosage for a blast to see how you respond. Maybe 400mg at most. I wouldn't suggest going any higher than that for a first blast. With proper diet and training you would see good results with that. Just remember that no amount of testosterone or anabolics replaces your diet! Diet is absolutely key! If your diet isn't on point then you will not get the progress you want. If you want to add muscle mass you to eat more calories than your body needs a day to be in a "caloric surplus".

Does your doctor have you on an anti estrogen to manage your estrogen? Such as anastrozole (armidex)? I'm not a doctor but it's a widely accepted thing here on the forum that doctors like to over prescribe anti estrogen drugs. Some estrogen is good! You need it to be healthy, feel good, and have a clear head. Your doctor should also be checking your estrogen level with your lab work.

Hope that was a little help to you.
 

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Welcome...
52 isn't young...
What type of condition are you in..??
Full spectrum labs...not just bloodwork..
PSA,Liver and kidney functions...
Learn about estrogen conversion and control..a huge problem that's constantly overlooked..only way to dial it in is bloodwork..PERIOD..
Otherwise it's guess work and Will cause problems..don't add to the growing number of guys not dealing with it effectively..at nearly 57, I still do bloods..
Why...??
Because we change as we age, and staying proactive about one's health is planning a long enjoyable Life...
Z...
 

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Wow . . . Thank you for the kind welcome, and already amazing information for me to keep my eye on.

"You're going to want to get your dosage dialed in with your doctor before you venture out into anything anabolics wise."

100%, so far I am in research mode.

"so you have test 200 which means it's 200mg/ml (200 milligrams per 1 milliliter)"

I always get this wrong, thank you for the review. I am on 200mg/ml test E . . . twice a week I pin .35 to equal .7 weekly. That makes 140mg/ml weekly I believe. That is my prescription currently, this week I get my panels back for review with the DR to see how things are going.

I will share both my original panel and new panel when I get chance . . . thank you for reminding me to hide all the personal data.

Currently I only take TEST, nothing else including estrogen blockers. My first panel did include a full spectrum panel, mostly everything looked good. Elevated blood sugar, just above average, and elevated LDL . . . So I am excited to see how any of those have changed.

"52 isn't young..." yeah, sad truth :(

"Learn about estrogen conversion and control..a huge problem that's constantly overlooked"

Thank you, I will drill down on this ASAP.

"Eventually once you have a set protocol established with your doctor you can do a "blast" which would involve getting more test and upping your dosage for X amount of time. Say 12 weeks. 300mg a week would be a great starting dosage for a blast to see how you respond."

I love all the suggestions, especially "starting dosages" to see how my body responds. I love that idea as opposed to jumping whole hog into stuff.

Seems like I am on a pretty conservative TRT regime currently, and I am good with slow and steady, reviewing my blood work and seeing how my body responds. Of course I'd love IMMEDIATE results, but as I was reminded :) I am no longer a young guy.

I am relatively fit. I have been a fat fucker all my life, but have been doing Jiu Jistu for the last few years, and started slowly working lifting into my week at 3/4 days a week. I am probably at 25% body fat, visible around belly and boobies :(
But I am also showing signs of muscle, and if you saw me in just clothing you would think I am "fit-ish " . . . hope that makes sense.

I am excited to get into the best shape I can, and join you folks on this chemistry for better health journey

Thanks for taking the time everyone!
 

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You're in the Right place...!!
We have tons of knowledgeable guys and girls here..
Check out the Over 40 sub..
Some great info and some super funny shit...then cruise over and look at some logs..Max's has the hottest chics..Mont. some dedication...and Brother Matt..
Glad to have you, stay away from Tren..
Z...
 

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Thanks Zion.

I have been lurking in the Over 40 group ( blue light special crew . . . my peoples :) )

"then cruise over and look at some logs..Max's has the hottest chics..Mont. some dedication...and Brother Matt.."

Solid tips !!! Especially Max :)

TREN ... if I have picked up one tip throughout the forums so far, its OLD guys and TREN is NO BUENO.

I want to be HEALTHY, realistic in my goals, HEALTHY AGAIN, but lets not kind anyone . . . JACKED :) J/K

Thanks again Z!
 
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