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Hey all, Glad to have found this place as there seems to be a ton of great information here. So about me.. I have been on TRT since OCT 11 after having levels come back at 345 total and 51 free. I had been basically going through a messy separation, working a ton, eating like crap, and having a ton of work stress. I lifted alot in my 30's (50 as of this month) and never had a problem getting stronger. I wanted to get back in shape as I have younger kids an dont want to be that dad tht can't do shit. I know I could have probably been like ok fix this, eat better, take time off. The problem was I just couldn't even muster the energy to want to do things I knew I always enjoyed. Anyhow my PCP wanted to give me monthly test shots and from everything I have read that seemed like a horrible way to do things. I reached out to a trt clinic, went through the steps and was prescribed 160 mg/week and 400iu pregnyl 2x/week ( i asked for the pregnyl because I wasn't keen on the guys shutting down)
Last labs all bloodwork was good and total was 671, free 113, e2 51 (little high?), shbg 32, igf 1 229 (was 164 initial)
Anyhow since I started I have been consistent in the gym, got a trainer that was able to work directly with me towards goals. Overall I feel I have made great progress. When I did my consult they asked how I was feeling and its like well divorce this work that all the stress. So of course I wasnt like oh this is magical, all the stories of how i feel like a new person are true. However, I said ya know I feel pretty decent and have been able to cope with all this stuff without having a meltdown, without sitting stressed out for hours trying to figure things out. all the time still being able to manahe 4 kids, get to training consistently, and handle my business better than I have in quite a while. So i suppose thats a win.
Now the dumb part. On my last consult I told my the np that I havebt been able to really cut any weight down eveb though i had been eating better than i had in 10 years. I also still like the ocasional beers a few times a week. They asked If I wanted to try oxandralone to help with reaching some of my weight goals so that I could maintain mass while thinning down a bit. I have read enough to know that anavar can be a very good compound when used correctly. I was prescribed 23 mg 2x daily. I did try a half dose for about 2 weeks to see what it felt like but wanted to get a few other things in check before i committed fully. a solid eating plan, discuss this with my trainer so he knows whats going on, get my sleep schedule on point, and putting away any bad habits before i add anything on to what I am already doing.
Well fun stuff I twisted my knee a little doing wind sprints after I laready had some knee pain from a session where il et my stupid ego push me to far. So i had side lined the anavar for a bit and then noticed that it seemed like these clinics have some wiggle to account for whatever in your administration. So I stupidly decided that since i get a 3 month supply of hcg that is set to expire after 2 that I would down my test and add 400 iu hcg so I could bank some test for when i was ready to use the anavar. Plan was 2 bump the test back up to prescrip levels and raise up slowly from there and add the anavar in to hopefully get some good results over the next 12 weeks.
Then I found this board and realized there was probably a better way to go about this and other options that experienced people could help guide me with while staying as safe as possible.
So, glad i found this place and look forward to being an active member here.
Thanks Boys
 

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Lots to unpack here. Good intro nonetheless.

Your E2 is slightly high but if you're not feeling any negative sides from it I would keep it where it's at. Estrogen is anabolic and neuroprotective. HCG (Pregnyl) also raises E2 alongside the test. Again, if no side effects, leave it where it's at.

I would continue to hold off on the Anavar until you get your diet and training on track.

I don't see an issue with your plan to use less test and up your HCG. However, you could keep your test at your script levels for the added protein synthesis which will aid in your recovery. Then use one of the many sources on here to get more test for your blast.

Welcome to ASF! 👊 Knowledge is power 💪

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Welcome to ASF 👊 there’s never a dumb question bro don’t hesitate to ask about anything and everything.
 

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Wish when I started going to my TRT clinic last year they had offered me Anavar. When I asked the doctor he told me he would not supply bodybuilders with steriods so don't ask. So 3 months later I left the clinic once my levals were stable and started pinning my TRT under my own control without them.


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Welcome to ASF, this is definitely the right place for you to be. Looks like everything was answered above perfectly.
 

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Thanks for the warm welcome, and yeah I can be wordy,😂
Using a sponsor for later and keeping dosage normal seems way smarter. Just have to figure all that out as this is new to me. I dont wanna go backwards. Here is my progress from October. I know it’s not like some of those crazy ones I’ve seen but I’m happy so eff it.
 

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Keep it up! I'm a newbie here as well and like it has been stated before there's no such thing as a dumb question. These guys here are know their shit and even though they might disagree with one another there are definitely respectful....well most of the time.lol
 

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Welcome to the board brother. Seems like you’re headed in the right direction and definitely landed in the right place. Keep up the good work.
 

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Welcome amigo!

I’m not a fan of hcg, I was prescribed it when I first got on trt. Hcg required me to be on an AI, if not my E2 shot up to 90 on 180 mg of test per week.

Dropped the hcg, and no longer need an AI while on 200 mg of test per week.



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Welcome to ASF brother. Lots of great people here and info to get you on the right road to knowledge!
 

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What kinda TRT clinics y’all going to? Didn’t know anavar could be prescribed just because lol I need to go check them out, hopefully get me some trenbologna sandwiches prescribed for lunch.

Welcome to the board.
google oxandrolone clinic, there are a couple in florida and at least one in texas that offers this, can also get nandrolone
 

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I tried for nandrolone for some nagging joint issues. After reading a little here and you tube maybe that isn’t the best. If you want to know my clinic u can pm me. Not sure of the rules on saying your clinic.. Also I have seen some horror stories on prices of some clinics here and I’m just like wtf.
I get a scrip emailed for labs so insurance covers that and the actual test and pregnyl is dirt cheap. With that said I am still definitely going to be reaching out to some sponsors soon 😀
 

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Hey all, Glad to have found this place as there seems to be a ton of great information here. So about me.. I have been on TRT since OCT 11 after having levels come back at 345 total and 51 free. I had been basically going through a messy separation, working a ton, eating like crap, and having a ton of work stress. I lifted alot in my 30's (50 as of this month) and never had a problem getting stronger. I wanted to get back in shape as I have younger kids an dont want to be that dad tht can't do shit. I know I could have probably been like ok fix this, eat better, take time off. The problem was I just couldn't even muster the energy to want to do things I knew I always enjoyed. Anyhow my PCP wanted to give me monthly test shots and from everything I have read that seemed like a horrible way to do things. I reached out to a trt clinic, went through the steps and was prescribed 160 mg/week and 400iu pregnyl 2x/week ( i asked for the pregnyl because I wasn't keen on the guys shutting down)
Last labs all bloodwork was good and total was 671, free 113, e2 51 (little high?), shbg 32, igf 1 229 (was 164 initial)
Anyhow since I started I have been consistent in the gym, got a trainer that was able to work directly with me towards goals. Overall I feel I have made great progress. When I did my consult they asked how I was feeling and its like well divorce this work that all the stress. So of course I wasnt like oh this is magical, all the stories of how i feel like a new person are true. However, I said ya know I feel pretty decent and have been able to cope with all this stuff without having a meltdown, without sitting stressed out for hours trying to figure things out. all the time still being able to manahe 4 kids, get to training consistently, and handle my business better than I have in quite a while. So i suppose thats a win.
Now the dumb part. On my last consult I told my the np that I havebt been able to really cut any weight down eveb though i had been eating better than i had in 10 years. I also still like the ocasional beers a few times a week. They asked If I wanted to try oxandralone to help with reaching some of my weight goals so that I could maintain mass while thinning down a bit. I have read enough to know that anavar can be a very good compound when used correctly. I was prescribed 23 mg 2x daily. I did try a half dose for about 2 weeks to see what it felt like but wanted to get a few other things in check before i committed fully. a solid eating plan, discuss this with my trainer so he knows whats going on, get my sleep schedule on point, and putting away any bad habits before i add anything on to what I am already doing.
Well fun stuff I twisted my knee a little doing wind sprints after I laready had some knee pain from a session where il et my stupid ego push me to far. So i had side lined the anavar for a bit and then noticed that it seemed like these clinics have some wiggle to account for whatever in your administration. So I stupidly decided that since i get a 3 month supply of hcg that is set to expire after 2 that I would down my test and add 400 iu hcg so I could bank some test for when i was ready to use the anavar. Plan was 2 bump the test back up to prescrip levels and raise up slowly from there and add the anavar in to hopefully get some good results over the next 12 weeks.
Then I found this board and realized there was probably a better way to go about this and other options that experienced people could help guide me with while staying as safe as possible.
So, glad i found this place and look forward to being an active member here.
Thanks Boys
Welcome!!

Yeah… started TRT with PCP only to find a clinic does it better… only to then realize, I’m probably over paying at this point. I’ll most likely make the switch to 100% UGL, but I’m okay with getting a handle on my self for a moment. Probably blast here soon, but it’s nice having that base to come back to.

Good luck!
 

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What kinda TRT clinics y’all going to? Didn’t know anavar could be prescribed just because lol I need to go check them out, hopefully get me some trenbologna sandwiches prescribed for lunch.

Welcome to the board.
Unfortunately, that will never happen.

Now, if you have some cattle and you get lucky, you may be able to get the pellets. Converting it is another story...

Eq was made for improving the performance of race horses.

Tren was made for transporting cattle.

Those 2 will never be "prescribed".

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Thanks for the warm welcome, and yeah I can be wordy,
Using a sponsor for later and keeping dosage normal seems way smarter. Just have to figure all that out as this is new to me. I dont wanna go backwards. Here is my progress from October. I know it’s not like some of those crazy ones I’ve seen but I’m happy so eff it.
Great changes brother!!!

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No one is an expert when starting out, do not hesitate to ask, a lot of great people could help you out here! On behalf of Worldofroids team, welcome to ASF brother! Feel free to reach out if you need anything; I'll be glad to help!
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Hey all, Glad to have found this place as there seems to be a ton of great information here. So about me.. I have been on TRT since OCT 11 after having levels come back at 345 total and 51 free. I had been basically going through a messy separation, working a ton, eating like crap, and having a ton of work stress. I lifted alot in my 30's (50 as of this month) and never had a problem getting stronger. I wanted to get back in shape as I have younger kids an dont want to be that dad tht can't do shit. I know I could have probably been like ok fix this, eat better, take time off. The problem was I just couldn't even muster the energy to want to do things I knew I always enjoyed. Anyhow my PCP wanted to give me monthly test shots and from everything I have read that seemed like a horrible way to do things. I reached out to a trt clinic, went through the steps and was prescribed 160 mg/week and 400iu pregnyl 2x/week ( i asked for the pregnyl because I wasn't keen on the guys shutting down)
Last labs all bloodwork was good and total was 671, free 113, e2 51 (little high?), shbg 32, igf 1 229 (was 164 initial)
Anyhow since I started I have been consistent in the gym, got a trainer that was able to work directly with me towards goals. Overall I feel I have made great progress. When I did my consult they asked how I was feeling and its like well divorce this work that all the stress. So of course I wasnt like oh this is magical, all the stories of how i feel like a new person are true. However, I said ya know I feel pretty decent and have been able to cope with all this stuff without having a meltdown, without sitting stressed out for hours trying to figure things out. all the time still being able to manahe 4 kids, get to training consistently, and handle my business better than I have in quite a while. So i suppose thats a win.
Now the dumb part. On my last consult I told my the np that I havebt been able to really cut any weight down eveb though i had been eating better than i had in 10 years. I also still like the ocasional beers a few times a week. They asked If I wanted to try oxandralone to help with reaching some of my weight goals so that I could maintain mass while thinning down a bit. I have read enough to know that anavar can be a very good compound when used correctly. I was prescribed 23 mg 2x daily. I did try a half dose for about 2 weeks to see what it felt like but wanted to get a few other things in check before i committed fully. a solid eating plan, discuss this with my trainer so he knows whats going on, get my sleep schedule on point, and putting away any bad habits before i add anything on to what I am already doing.
Well fun stuff I twisted my knee a little doing wind sprints after I laready had some knee pain from a session where il et my stupid ego push me to far. So i had side lined the anavar for a bit and then noticed that it seemed like these clinics have some wiggle to account for whatever in your administration. So I stupidly decided that since i get a 3 month supply of hcg that is set to expire after 2 that I would down my test and add 400 iu hcg so I could bank some test for when i was ready to use the anavar. Plan was 2 bump the test back up to prescrip levels and raise up slowly from there and add the anavar in to hopefully get some good results over the next 12 weeks.
Then I found this board and realized there was probably a better way to go about this and other options that experienced people could help guide me with while staying as safe as possible.
So, glad i found this place and look forward to being an active member here.
Thanks Boys
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Hey all, Glad to have found this place as there seems to be a ton of great information here. So about me.. I have been on TRT since OCT 11 after having levels come back at 345 total and 51 free. I had been basically going through a messy separation, working a ton, eating like crap, and having a ton of work stress. I lifted alot in my 30's (50 as of this month) and never had a problem getting stronger. I wanted to get back in shape as I have younger kids an dont want to be that dad tht can't do shit. I know I could have probably been like ok fix this, eat better, take time off. The problem was I just couldn't even muster the energy to want to do things I knew I always enjoyed. Anyhow my PCP wanted to give me monthly test shots and from everything I have read that seemed like a horrible way to do things. I reached out to a trt clinic, went through the steps and was prescribed 160 mg/week and 400iu pregnyl 2x/week ( i asked for the pregnyl because I wasn't keen on the guys shutting down)
Last labs all bloodwork was good and total was 671, free 113, e2 51 (little high?), shbg 32, igf 1 229 (was 164 initial)
Anyhow since I started I have been consistent in the gym, got a trainer that was able to work directly with me towards goals. Overall I feel I have made great progress. When I did my consult they asked how I was feeling and its like well divorce this work that all the stress. So of course I wasnt like oh this is magical, all the stories of how i feel like a new person are true. However, I said ya know I feel pretty decent and have been able to cope with all this stuff without having a meltdown, without sitting stressed out for hours trying to figure things out. all the time still being able to manahe 4 kids, get to training consistently, and handle my business better than I have in quite a while. So i suppose thats a win.
Now the dumb part. On my last consult I told my the np that I havebt been able to really cut any weight down eveb though i had been eating better than i had in 10 years. I also still like the ocasional beers a few times a week. They asked If I wanted to try oxandralone to help with reaching some of my weight goals so that I could maintain mass while thinning down a bit. I have read enough to know that anavar can be a very good compound when used correctly. I was prescribed 23 mg 2x daily. I did try a half dose for about 2 weeks to see what it felt like but wanted to get a few other things in check before i committed fully. a solid eating plan, discuss this with my trainer so he knows whats going on, get my sleep schedule on point, and putting away any bad habits before i add anything on to what I am already doing.
Well fun stuff I twisted my knee a little doing wind sprints after I laready had some knee pain from a session where il et my stupid ego push me to far. So i had side lined the anavar for a bit and then noticed that it seemed like these clinics have some wiggle to account for whatever in your administration. So I stupidly decided that since i get a 3 month supply of hcg that is set to expire after 2 that I would down my test and add 400 iu hcg so I could bank some test for when i was ready to use the anavar. Plan was 2 bump the test back up to prescrip levels and raise up slowly from there and add the anavar in to hopefully get some good results over the next 12 weeks.
Then I found this board and realized there was probably a better way to go about this and other options that experienced people could help guide me with while staying as safe as possible.
So, glad i found this place and look forward to being an active member here.
Thanks Boys
Hey, I recognized your name in a recent post you made today. That other board you joined recently, don't waste your time. Its been a train wreck ever since a small group was allowed to terrorize the forum and a mod was put in charge of oversight that doesn't even lift and may seriously be the only mod of any lifting/PED forum I know that has high BF percentage and still less than 160 pounds.

ASF here has the good info and some members that have a pretty good sense of humor. For the most part any so called drama is contained within the Pit. Glad to have you here and hope to get to know you a bit better. Good luck in reaching your goals and doing it in a safe and efficient manner.
 
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