The anadrol was recommended by someone else as well. I'm defintely open to that. How much of a dose would I take and what brand do you recommend?
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Anadrol is great but many users report nausea and lack of appetite. It happens to me quite often. So I started taking it for bedtime. But anyway you can’t afford to lose your appetite. You need to eat more clean food. That simple
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I like this..I try to follow something similar. I have cheat meals to often..need to get back on track
Awesome! Thank you brother. I really appreciate you taking the time out to share that with me. I know how important the meal plan and/or intake is and I will definitely use this.
In my opinion you should not touch tren. Stick to simple bulking cycles until you get your food and diet in order.
You should put on some good size with test and deca if your calorie intake and workout is dialed in. Good luck.
You should put on some good size with test and deca if your calorie intake and workout is dialed in. Good luck.
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Great advice there
.anything kills appetite I stay away from..
So most orals I will not touch.
I'm going to place an order for anadrol and give that a shot.
Noted. I think im going to give the anadrol a shot and hild off on the tren for now. What would be the proper dosage?
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I don’t suggest using Anadrol but if you do. I started with 50mg daily
Thank you. I appreciate the feedback and well wishes. But I'm curious, why no on tren?
50mg daily for 5 weeks? What else would you suggest?
Risk and reward. Been cycling for over 30 years and just started tren 2 years ago. Lots of side effects that you need to manage and I’m pretty sure you don’t know how. You picked the most potent and strongest steroid with bad sides and why?
These compounds are very dangerous and work for different reasons and if not dialed in correctly you will have short and long term damage done.
You are not ready or need tren. Trust me
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Don’t take this the wrong way, but your problem is you want to keeping adding more compounds. Stick with test at a moderate dose. And build on future cycles down the line. You are trying to throw the kitchen in on 1 cycle. If anything goes not as planned, you have no idea what is causing it. I have done over 10 cycles at this point, take my word for it, this a marathon not a sprint. Start slow and work your way up. Your diet and nutrition is the most important. Without the proper nutrition you will never grow and keep the gains
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For your first cycle you want to do test only at say 400mg per wk. With being new to this you don`t know how you will respond and if you throw in multiple things at once and you have bad side effects which one is causing what side effect? That is a big reason why we always suggest test only for a first cycle. You also don`t know how much your body converts test into estrogen. You have an AI (Armidex) on hand which is great but you do not want to take this unless you need it. Ideally you need to get lab work before your cycle, around 6 wks in and then again after PCT (Post cycle therapy) to see if you recovered. The first labs are to see what your natural test level is so you know your target of what you are going back to or trying to get back to after the cycle. If you don`t know where you started then you cant know where you are going. The labs at around the 6 wk mark will tell you what your estrogen level is to see if you need the Armidex or not. The labs after PCT is to see if you recovered or not. You can buy your own labs online and have them done at a Quest or lab corp depending on which you choose when you purchase them. I personally have only used Private MD labs but there are others as well. When you get lab work you want to make sure you get a total test MC/MS, Free test and an Ultra-Sensitive estrogen.
Now I realize you have ran a cycle before with multiple compounds but I would suggest taking the above and starting over so you can actually learn your body. The fact that you ran that prev cycle does not change the fact that you do not know how each compound including test effects you.
What are your plans for PCT after your cycle?
Now, the MOST important thing of them all which i intentionally saved till last. Diet. You NEED to get your diet sorted out before you ever touch Test or any other anabolic. They will NOT give you the results you seek without a proper diet. I personally eat chicken and rice every day of my life but I know not everyone can or will do that. It`s just what works for me
I saw you mention that you just ate as much protein as possible. That is only half of the equation. You need carbs (with the exception being someone that does a keto style diet and is fat adapted). Carbs are extremely important to building muscle. Think of protein as concrete and carbs as a cement truck. You can`t get the concrete to the job site without the truck. You also want a modest amount of healthy fats for a number of reasons. You don`t want to just eat a bunch of junk for your carbs either. You need "good carbs" aka complex carbs which for me is rice.
If I can be of any help to you please feel free to reach out
For your first cycle you want to do test only at say 400mg per wk. With being new to this you don`t know how you will respond and if you throw in multiple things at once and you have bad side effects which one is causing what side effect? That is a big reason why we always suggest test only for a first cycle. You also don`t know how much your body converts test into estrogen. You have an AI (Armidex) on hand which is great but you do not want to take this unless you need it. Ideally you need to get lab work before your cycle, around 6 wks in and then again after PCT (Post cycle therapy) to see if you recovered. The first labs are to see what your natural test level is so you know your target of what you are going back to or trying to get back to after the cycle. If you don`t know where you started then you cant know where you are going. The labs at around the 6 wk mark will tell you what your estrogen level is to see if you need the Armidex or not. The labs after PCT is to see if you recovered or not. You can buy your own labs online and have them done at a Quest or lab corp depending on which you choose when you purchase them. I personally have only used Private MD labs but there are others as well. When you get lab work you want to make sure you get a total test MC/MS, Free test and an Ultra-Sensitive estrogen.
Now I realize you have ran a cycle before with multiple compounds but I would suggest taking the above and starting over so you can actually learn your body. The fact that you ran that prev cycle does not change the fact that you do not know how each compound including test effects you.
What are your plans for PCT after your cycle?
Now, the MOST important thing of them all which i intentionally saved till last. Diet. You NEED to get your diet sorted out before you ever touch Test or any other anabolic. They will NOT give you the results you seek without a proper diet. I personally eat chicken and rice every day of my life but I know not everyone can or will do that. It`s just what works for me
I saw you mention that you just ate as much protein as possible. That is only half of the equation. You need carbs (with the exception being someone that does a keto style diet and is fat adapted). Carbs are extremely important to building muscle. Think of protein as concrete and carbs as a cement truck. You can`t get the concrete to the job site without the truck. You also want a modest amount of healthy fats for a number of reasons. You don`t want to just eat a bunch of junk for your carbs either. You need "good carbs" aka complex carbs which for me is rice.
If I can be of any help to you please feel free to reach out
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Hi @joshuacortez7,
Welcome to the Forum bro. You are definitely in the right place here at ASF. You've already presented some good questions and the members here will help you.
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That seems to be the consensus view so I'm going to respect it. I got away with it once but I don't want to take any unnecessary chances this time around. I'm going to have my blood work done today and stick with the test at first
Thank you Casey. This forum was the best decision. I've gotten a lot of great feedback and I've learned a ton already.
I want to truly thank you for taking the time to share your guidance with me. I believe it'll prove to be instrumental. I've decided to hold off on the tren or deca and stick 400mg of test. I also went out and stocked up on chicken, rice, fruits, vegetables, bagels, and protein powder. I was wondering which test you think would the best for me. If I'm not mistaken I believe there's 3 of them. Last but not least. I looked up the male hormone panel through Private MD and it said it would be 300-400. Is that how much you pay each time or is there a less expensive way. Is it not something I could do through my insurance?Welcome to ASF!
For your first cycle you want to do test only at say 400mg per wk. With being new to this you don`t know how you will respond and if you throw in multiple things at once and you have bad side effects which one is causing what side effect? That is a big reason why we always suggest test only for a first cycle. You also don`t know how much your body converts test into estrogen. You have an AI (Armidex) on hand which is great but you do not want to take this unless you need it. Ideally you need to get lab work before your cycle, around 6 wks in and then again after PCT (Post cycle therapy) to see if you recovered. The first labs are to see what your natural test level is so you know your target of what you are going back to or trying to get back to after the cycle. If you don`t know where you started then you cant know where you are going. The labs at around the 6 wk mark will tell you what your estrogen level is to see if you need the Armidex or not. The labs after PCT is to see if you recovered or not. You can buy your own labs online and have them done at a Quest or lab corp depending on which you choose when you purchase them. I personally have only used Private MD labs but there are others as well. When you get lab work you want to make sure you get a total test MC/MS, Free test and an Ultra-Sensitive estrogen.
Now I realize you have ran a cycle before with multiple compounds but I would suggest taking the above and starting over so you can actually learn your body. The fact that you ran that prev cycle does not change the fact that you do not know how each compound including test effects you.
What are your plans for PCT after your cycle?
Now, the MOST important thing of them all which i intentionally saved till last. Diet. You NEED to get your diet sorted out before you ever touch Test or any other anabolic. They will NOT give you the results you seek without a proper diet. I personally eat chicken and rice every day of my life but I know not everyone can or will do that. It`s just what works for me
I saw you mention that you just ate as much protein as possible. That is only half of the equation. You need carbs (with the exception being someone that does a keto style diet and is fat adapted). Carbs are extremely important to building muscle. Think of protein as concrete and carbs as a cement truck. You can`t get the concrete to the job site without the truck. You also want a modest amount of healthy fats for a number of reasons. You don`t want to just eat a bunch of junk for your carbs either. You need "good carbs" aka complex carbs which for me is rice.
If I can be of any help to you please feel free to reach out
I appreciate the feedback and your honesty. I've decided to stick with the test. I'm getting bloodw
I appreciate the feedback and your honesty. I've decided to stick with the test. I'm getting bloodwork done as we speak so I'm going to share those results when I get them. Do you have any recommendations on which test to go with?
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The first thing I would do is change the name of your handle.
Please please please tell me your name isn't Joshua Cortez...
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Test E or C. I’m a rep for Juice Daddy and we have both available and the current deal is 50% off!!!
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I have totally been in a position where i needed to spend the least amount of money possible for lab work and I am still in that boat off/on depending on how life is going. This panel I attached a screen shot of is only 138 through Quest and I always use Quest because they are so much cheaper than lab corp. This gets you your estrogen, free and total test. I think it is a good bang for your buck. Also Private md labs has a discount code every month and right now it would be jun20 and next month jul20 etc. That will give you 20% off as well There are several different Test esters but at the end of the day test is test. What makes these different is their half life/active life. I would suggest you use Test Enth or Test Cyp. Either of these will allow you to inject twice a week while keeping stable blood levels. You could just Test Prop but due to it`s shorter half life you want to pin it EOD (every other day) or Mon, Wed, Fri at the very least. For my self my levels start dropping if I go from Fri to monday without pinning test prop so that is why I said it is best to stay on that EOD protocol with test Prop. There are other esters as well. Sust is a blend of esters and some guys love it. Test Undec is a very long ester and I would stay away from right now and for that same reason stay away from Sust right now. In the event you have side effects you want to be able to make dosage changes and not have to wait over a week or more to feel that dosage change. So Test E or Test C would be ideal brother.
It might not seem like it now but trust me when I tell you that months and even years down the line you are going to be very thankful that you made the choice to do a test only cycle at this time. The amount that you will learn about your body in regards to how it responds, estrogen management etc is going to be very very useful down the road.
Great on the foods you stocked up on! Just remember that in order to gain weight/muscle you need to be in a caloric surplus which means you are taking in more than your body is using on a daily basis to function. There are tons of online calculators to give you a baseline of what your maintanence calories are so find that number and add 400-500 calories to it then it is a waiting game. Watch the scale and watch the mirror. Getting fat? Reduce the calories a bit. Not gaining weight/muscle then boost the calories a bit. I personally track my food and intake with my fitness pal (the free version). I have a coach though that tells me what my macros are though but it is obviously up to me to hit those numbers. Don`t make the mistake a lot of guys make. Don`t eat everything in sight. That will just make you fat. You want control and you want to track what you are taking in otherwise it`s just a cluster of figuring out what you should or should not be eating
Sorry for the long winded reply. I would rather give you to much information than not enough information.
P.S. On private md labs just search for that panel by name and it will come right up. Hopefully you have a quest somewhere close. I am closer to lab corp but I will totally drive an extra hour to save that amount of money
Hit me up with any other questions, thoughts, etc.
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Matt laid it out perfectly..
Listen..it's never the Gear..!!
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Nutrition
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Matt laid it out perfectly..
Listen..it's never the Gear..!!
It's the...
Training
Nutrition
And Recovery....
And Usually...
Nutrition is always lacking..
Z...
What do you recommend as far as PCT?Welcome to ASF!
For your first cycle you want to do test only at say 400mg per wk. With being new to this you don`t know how you will respond and if you throw in multiple things at once and you have bad side effects which one is causing what side effect? That is a big reason why we always suggest test only for a first cycle. You also don`t know how much your body converts test into estrogen. You have an AI (Armidex) on hand which is great but you do not want to take this unless you need it. Ideally you need to get lab work before your cycle, around 6 wks in and then again after PCT (Post cycle therapy) to see if you recovered. The first labs are to see what your natural test level is so you know your target of what you are going back to or trying to get back to after the cycle. If you don`t know where you started then you cant know where you are going. The labs at around the 6 wk mark will tell you what your estrogen level is to see if you need the Armidex or not. The labs after PCT is to see if you recovered or not. You can buy your own labs online and have them done at a Quest or lab corp depending on which you choose when you purchase them. I personally have only used Private MD labs but there are others as well. When you get lab work you want to make sure you get a total test MC/MS, Free test and an Ultra-Sensitive estrogen.
Now I realize you have ran a cycle before with multiple compounds but I would suggest taking the above and starting over so you can actually learn your body. The fact that you ran that prev cycle does not change the fact that you do not know how each compound including test effects you.
What are your plans for PCT after your cycle?
Now, the MOST important thing of them all which i intentionally saved till last. Diet. You NEED to get your diet sorted out before you ever touch Test or any other anabolic. They will NOT give you the results you seek without a proper diet. I personally eat chicken and rice every day of my life but I know not everyone can or will do that. It`s just what works for me
I saw you mention that you just ate as much protein as possible. That is only half of the equation. You need carbs (with the exception being someone that does a keto style diet and is fat adapted). Carbs are extremely important to building muscle. Think of protein as concrete and carbs as a cement truck. You can`t get the concrete to the job site without the truck. You also want a modest amount of healthy fats for a number of reasons. You don`t want to just eat a bunch of junk for your carbs either. You need "good carbs" aka complex carbs which for me is rice.
If I can be of any help to you please feel free to reach out
I'm not a pct expert but I'd do 4-6 weeks of Nolva (Tamoxifen).
Make sure you Armidex or Aromasin on hand for estrogen control for on cycle if you end up needing them. Aromasin (exemestane) is a much better choice IMO. It's not nearly as harsh as armidex (anastrozole)
Also, if that is you in your profile picture I'd change it. If you're in the US then this is illegal and you don't want to advertise your face. If you have pictures then block out your face. If you ever post lab work then you have to black off your personal information. Just cover your ass
Thank you brother.
I know for me personally that anytime in the past I thought "man my diet is nailed down" i would then realize it was not even close to being nailed down. Now it IS nailed down but anytime in the past when I said it was then it prob was not true. Once I started eating chicken and rice daily, removed all processed food and focused more on micro nutrients and not just macros then that`s when it all came together. I am not saying that someone that does not eat chicken and rice daily is in the wrong. Just that for me it works perfectly
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Why do people say ml instead of milligrams?? One ml of test prop could be 100 mg whereas 1 ml of a test blend could be 500 mg. Deca could be 200 mg or upwards of 400 msg.
