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All right,

I know there is some very knowledgeable people on here much smarter than I. I have a buddy who's been blasting and cruising for about five years now.

He takes 20mg Cialis every day. Just got off a blast about 2 weeks ago. His dick has literally stopped working. The only thing that will work is Viagra. And afterwards he gets a raging headache. Cialis no longer does anything for him.

Right now he's taking 200mg testosterone a week and 50mg anavar a day. 3mg Armidex a week, 2mg Caber.

I'm thinking the guy crashed the shit out of his estrogen what do you guys think? If you guys need any more information just let me know.

Thanks a lot in advance
 
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Bloodwork.

Having said that....why is he taking an AI and caber for that low dosage trt?

Thats what I told him and he's doing it. He's running Arimidex and caber because he thinks his prolactin and estrogen were spiked during his blast. I told him to stop taking all AI's unless he has estrogen side effects.
 

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That's a long run..after bloods
Get full labs done and look at All health markers..

I would be greatly surprised if some markers aren't sky high..Now it's damage control..
 

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All right,

I know there is some very knowledgeable people on here much smarter than I. I have a buddy who's been blasting and cruising for about five years now.

He takes 20mg Cialis every day. Just got off a blast about 2 weeks ago. His dick has literally stopped working. The only thing that will work is Viagra. And afterwards he gets a raging headache. Cialis no longer does anything for him.

Right now he's taking 200mg testosterone a week and 50mg anavar a day. 3mg Armidex a week, 2mg Caber.

I'm thinking the guy crashed the shit out of his estrogen what do you guys think? If you guys need any more information just let me know.

Thanks a lot in advance


drop the adex all together, thats overkill and way too much even for estrogen sensitive guys, you can bet $$$ its crashed if his adex os properly dosed. I recommend trt dose of test, add some proviron at 75 mgs a day and obviously get some bloodwork done, also once his estrogen increases get a new hot chick they help bring the WOOD more than anything else mentioned!
Also, no need to 20mg cialis a day, good grief he must have hella acid reflux at that dose... take the cialis down to 5mgs eod and then increase at most to 10mgs a day
 
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Oh, this asking for a "friend" thing....lol. jk

Really sucks when your cock isn't working right. And the more you think about it, the worse it gets. You start to worry about initiating sex and if it will respond or if it does, that it won't stay hard.

Obviously bloodwork will be the most helpful.
 

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Not to much to add the blood work summed it up. With that being said as someone else mentioned it's a lot to mentally worrying about it not working.
 

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Blood work will give him his answer but sounds like he crashed estrogen and progesterone thats just a guess though blood work can get him back on track
 

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Thanks bros, I was pretty sure it was crashed estrogen but wanted to see a couple different viewpoints appreciate you guys thanks again
 

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Blood work for sure. Seems like a lot of PCT compounds so a E2 crash seems likely but I don’t mess around without knowing what’s going on.
 

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Same as already stated wayyy too much AI for almost no test. Crashed E2 will kill your dick also.
 

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I’m sure someone has already told you but his estrogen is like nil. Stop with the AI and wait it out
 

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almost a year now.. started out at 100/week... then 200/week... I've gone as high as 750/week... no AI
and I'm very prone to gyno
my solution.. mast...
seems like my sweet spot is 2:1 Test/Mast ratio but I've gone up to a 1:1 with the Mast
 

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All right,

I know there is some very knowledgeable people on here much smarter than I. I have a buddy who's been blasting and cruising for about five years now.

He takes 20mg Cialis every day. Just got off a blast about 2 weeks ago. His dick has literally stopped working. The only thing that will work is Viagra. And afterwards he gets a raging headache. Cialis no longer does anything for him.

Right now he's taking 200mg testosterone a week and 50mg anavar a day. 3mg Armidex a week, 2mg Caber.

I'm thinking the guy crashed the shit out of his estrogen what do you guys think? If you guys need any more information just let me know.

Thanks a lot in advance

Not entirely sure where this guy got his information with running excessive dosages with the cialis, arimidex and cabergoline.
All of that is beyond unnecessary.
What is his exact reason for incorporating the cabergoline?
He needs to ditch that entirely, scrap the arimidex for now, tell him to stay away from the Ed meds for the time being. Throw in some tamoxifen at 10-20 mg ED for the next several weeks with his current testosterone dosage.
Let everything balance out, system of checks are going to need to do their thing.
His approach is crazy aggressive. There's actually some serious consequences with his arimidex and cabergoline dosage protocol.
Is he doing these dosages based on theoretical possibilities and suspected potentials?
His dick don't work because his thought process doesn't work.

When coming off a blast or a cycle, it's all about going into a smooth landing, it's not about coming in hard and aggressive. Smoother The landing better it is..
 

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Not entirely sure where this guy got his information with running excessive dosages with the cialis, arimidex and cabergoline.
All of that is beyond unnecessary.
What is his exact reason for incorporating the cabergoline?
He needs to ditch that entirely, scrap the arimidex for now, tell him to stay away from the Ed meds for the time being. Throw in some tamoxifen at 10-20 mg ED for the next several weeks with his current testosterone dosage.
Let everything balance out, system of checks are going to need to do their thing.
His approach is crazy aggressive. There's actually some serious consequences with his arimidex and cabergoline dosage protocol.
Is he doing these dosages based on theoretical possibilities and suspected potentials?
His dick don't work because his thought process doesn't work.

When coming off a blast or a cycle, it's all about going into a smooth landing, it's not about coming in hard and aggressive. Smoother The landing better it is..

Thanks Vision, I always appreciate your point of view. He was running Cialis excessively because his guy a year ago told him to do so. I couldn't believe that. I told him quit that shit now. Told him give it a few weeks then start taking 5mg eod.

He was running Arimidex and cabergoline because his dick didn't work and he just came off of a high test Tren blast. So he was literally throwing everything and the kitchen sink trying to fix his problem but it was actually making it worse.

I told him he was insane for running that much AI's. I let him know when I take 1000mg of test I'm taking 1 mg a week and that's probably not even needed.

I told him unless he has estrogen related sides stay away completely. Novidex if the nips start acting up.

He's 25 doesn't research, just does what his guy tells him to do and his guy must be stupid ass fuck. Probably saved the guy's life in the long run.

He was under the impression that his estrogen and prolactin was super high that's why his dick wasn't workin.

He is super grateful for all your guys's tips and he is going to approach everything at a different angle and get his shit together. The guys about 220 lean not sure how the hell he got there with his thinking lol
 

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WWAAAAAY to much adex and no need for caber.

I don't know of any studies that show a chemical dependece for Cialis but, that much for that long, who knows.

He needs to taper that adex and caber back over time though if he's been using that much for a good while. I wouldn't recommend dropping it right to half a mg per week adex and zero caber..... Surely he would run into some type of estrogen or prolactin rebound
 

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Thanks Vision, I always appreciate your point of view. He was running Cialis excessively because his guy a year ago told him to do so. I couldn't believe that. I told him quit that shit now. Told him give it a few weeks then start taking 5mg eod.

He was running Arimidex and cabergoline because his dick didn't work and he just came off of a high test Tren blast. So he was literally throwing everything and the kitchen sink trying to fix his problem but it was actually making it worse.

I told him he was insane for running that much AI's. I let him know when I take 1000mg of test I'm taking 1 mg a week and that's probably not even needed.

I told him unless he has estrogen related sides stay away completely. Novidex if the nips start acting up.

He's 25 doesn't research, just does what his guy tells him to do and his guy must be stupid ass fuck. Probably saved the guy's life in the long run.

He was under the impression that his estrogen and prolactin was super high that's why his dick wasn't workin.

He is super grateful for all your guys's tips and he is going to approach everything at a different angle and get his shit together. The guys about 220 lean not sure how the hell he got there with his thinking lol

Hopefully he dials things back and everything should regulate and balance back out, but the moment something doesn't work people can't just start pulling out the Band-Aids and applying them here and there because ultimately that becomes a cat chase tail game.
Each and every single one of us are guilty of doing so.

I'm still baffled on the arimidex and the cabergoline dosage. He can really fuck himself up and get sick, and I'm not playing.

Just an FYI tamoxifen is a great alternative in most cases and it can actually lower prolactin serum levels.
But there is a drawback that it can also lower igf levels but that's irrelevant at this point.

This is the perfect example for people to see when someone suspects a crippled dick because of elevated estrogen, and they end up crippling their dick because they cripple their estrogen.

Throwing all sorts of drugs and medications into the mix only to treat some suspected and supposed numbers is absolutely reckless and silliness.

When blasting or cruising, or going off and on, there's going to be windows and durations with the possibility of a hindered libido or Ed issues, it's not out of the ordinary or unusual considering the timing. It's the nature of the beast, we can't always be fully torqued running on all cylinders.

I too have not seen any evidence or data to support any chemical dependence with Cialis, it simply does not exist. I'm not suggesting it doesn't exist mentally because placebo is real.
There is studies supporting men that have claimed low to no sex drive and they were prescribed ED drugs and they were back in the game. If it's up and hard, clearly you're going to want to use it. But that's getting off topic but you get my point.

Like other suggested, pull bloods..
But on the meantime it's just a suggestion to consider some tamoxifen.

Last but not least, advise him that it may be wise to split his Test Cyp into 2 or 3 x dosages a week, of the 200.. this may offset any conversion if there is any, and he'll feel better with much more stable bloods.
3 x a week would be great. M/W/F

Tell him to stop thinking about his Richard, he's going to mind fuck himself, he's going to induce stage fright and completely fuck himself. And seriously, tell him don't beat his dick, and to hold off on the pussy for a week, get some build up action going on, it can help eliminate the brain fog and get his head back into the game in that department.
 

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Another example of What NOT To do..
Total Damage control mode...

When all said and done...what will he Keep..??
 

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he needs to drop the AI and caber immediately so unnecessary for such a low dose of test

his estrogen and prolactin is prob in the gutter which is why he is having problems
 
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Another example of What NOT To do..
Total Damage control mode...

When all said and done...what will he Keep..??

Shit... he's already a giant. I hope he doesn't lose much his entire life revolves around this spot. He's incredibly grateful for your guys's information
 

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Hopefully he dials things back and everything should regulate and balance back out, but the moment something doesn't work people can't just start pulling out the Band-Aids and applying them here and there because ultimately that becomes a cat chase tail game.
Each and every single one of us are guilty of doing so.

I'm still baffled on the arimidex and the cabergoline dosage. He can really fuck himself up and get sick, and I'm not playing.

Just an FYI tamoxifen is a great alternative in most cases and it can actually lower prolactin serum levels.
But there is a drawback that it can also lower igf levels but that's irrelevant at this point.

This is the perfect example for people to see when someone suspects a crippled dick because of elevated estrogen, and they end up crippling their dick because they cripple their estrogen.

Throwing all sorts of drugs and medications into the mix only to treat some suspected and supposed numbers is absolutely reckless and silliness.

When blasting or cruising, or going off and on, there's going to be windows and durations with the possibility of a hindered libido or Ed issues, it's not out of the ordinary or unusual considering the timing. It's the nature of the beast, we can't always be fully torqued running on all cylinders.

I too have not seen any evidence or data to support any chemical dependence with Cialis, it simply does not exist. I'm not suggesting it doesn't exist mentally because placebo is real.
There is studies supporting men that have claimed low to no sex drive and they were prescribed ED drugs and they were back in the game. If it's up and hard, clearly you're going to want to use it. But that's getting off topic but you get my point.

Like other suggested, pull bloods..
But on the meantime it's just a suggestion to consider some tamoxifen.

Last but not least, advise him that it may be wise to split his Test Cyp into 2 or 3 x dosages a week, of the 200.. this may offset any conversion if there is any, and he'll feel better with much more stable bloods.
3 x a week would be great. M/W/F

Tell him to stop thinking about his Richard, he's going to mind fuck himself, he's going to induce stage fright and completely fuck himself. And seriously, tell him don't beat his dick, and to hold off on the pussy for a week, get some build up action going on, it can help eliminate the brain fog and get his head back into the game in that department.

I literally sent him what you wrote. Vision, thank you. Taking time out of your day to help somebody you don't even know you're a good bro!!

He's already feelin better. He's going to follow what you said. He also told me to tell you thank you. 🙏

I hope you're doing well, Merry Christmas brother hope you and your family have some great times around these holidays!! Thanks again!
 

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I freakin love this board man. All you dudes take the time to just jump in and offer up advice for someone that sounds like may not even be a member here. No ridicule, no haters, no smart ass comments…just pure helpful advice. You guys are awesome. ASF rocks!
 

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I think the only thing that scares me more than gyno is ED. I’d rather be able to fuck with a big pair of titties flopping around than not be able to use my dick with a chiseled chest… who knows my wife might even be into it more…
 

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I think the only thing that scares me more than gyno is ED. I’d rather be able to fuck with a big pair of titties flopping around than not be able to use my dick with a chiseled chest… who knows my wife might even be into it more…

I agree.

Whenever I have had my moments with ED… it becomes a mind fuck.

Creeps in and you start worrying about it so much it actually creates more ED.
 

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I agree.

Whenever I have had my moments with ED… it becomes a mind fuck.

Creeps in and you start worrying about it so much it actually creates more ED.

Exactly! I know that story too well, and at too young of an age too. My years that I should have been in my prime (high school) I was troubled with frequent ED with different partners, so fucking embarrassing bro… I had no idea it was because of the medication I was on (adderall). It ruined 4 years of what could have been the best of my years in a sexual sense…will never go back on that rat poison.
 

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Exactly! I know that story too well, and at too young of an age too. My years that I should have been in my prime (high school) I was troubled with frequent ED with different partners, so fucking embarrassing bro… I had no idea it was because of the medication I was on (adderall). It ruined 4 years of what could have been the best of my years in a sexual sense…will never go back on that rat poison.

i was lucky adderall never did that to me. Years ago I took it daily. It never even hurt my appetite. I was able to eat everything I wanted but I couldn’t get fat. I wouldn’t take it now as I have really bad gad and am prone to panic attacks. The only thing I can handle now is a sugar free monster. I took 10mcg of clen and could barely function.
 

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Guys feelin like a million bucks now. Actually making gainz again. Dick back to 90% he said. Life is gold!
 
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