Migraines and new medication

[movingsteel 79]

It actually helps. And it’s super minimal. Try just the tiny space between your eyebrows. They use a very very small
Amount. I’d do it more often if it wasn’t so expensive. But everything still works, I promise. No one noticed a thing. Not even me. Except the fact I didn’t have migraines.


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Very interesting.,i have heard about this treatment for a while now., but you are the first one I've heard with no agenda speaking on it. If u dont mind me asking about how much is Botox treatment and how long does it last for.??

 

[Milford King]

So coach Cabo had a post awhile back regarding migraines and micro dosing psycho active substances , specifically Psilocybin. I did my research thesis on college on rewiring the brain and spent a lot of time on the medicinal value of magic mushrooms to treat PTSD, depression and chronic migraines. The shit works. Microdosing is the key word. Think of it as taking your daily aspirin. 50-100mg of shrooms (gods gift by the way) every day for a few weeks and I promise you will find relief from migraines. Remember your not using it to get high your using it to rewire your brain. This is just the beginning of medical progress as many clinical labs are now experimenting with this drug for various diseases and ailments. Find your local pothead stoner and inquire. Take your first dose on a weekend just in case you get the giggles.

 

[Belle]

Very interesting.,i have heard about this treatment for a while now., but you are the first one I've heard with no agenda speaking on it. If u dont mind me asking about how much is Botox treatment and how long does it last for.??

It’s around 200, Botox charges by unit. If you’ve got a bigger forehead it’ll be a little more.
Lasts for 3 months tho!


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[movingsteel 79]

It’s around 200, Botox charges by unit. If you’ve got a bigger forehead it’ll be a little more.
Lasts for 3 months tho!


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Thanks for those specifics Belle.!! To be honest $200 isn't that bad if it keeps migraines away for up to 3 months. There are times during a bad migraine that trading off an arm for relief sounds good so Botox is a very real possibility to try. I been researching the micro-dosing of Psilocybe too as it seems to work for some people suffering from migraines.
Botox for migraine treatment almost sounds like a good investment for the year., if they can use it long term. $800 a year to avoid the migraines and have a piece of mind not worrying about a migraine creepin on sounds good.

Any sides at all.?

 

[Machinist9]

From what I've been told by someone who had botox done it works great. But my wife won't try it. She is afraid of it. The shroons she feels the same way. Won't do it.
This new med isnt helping. She will definitely have to see about getting a higher dose.

 

[movingsteel 79]

Sorry to hear Machinist that the new med isn't working for her. It's a horrible situation man., I really hope she finds something to help her out. Migraines are ruthless and miserable.

 

[Belle]

Thanks for those specifics Belle.!! To be honest $200 isn't that bad if it keeps migraines away for up to 3 months. There are times during a bad migraine that trading off an arm for relief sounds good so Botox is a very real possibility to try. I been researching the micro-dosing of Psilocybe too as it seems to work for some people suffering from migraines.
Botox for migraine treatment almost sounds like a good investment for the year., if they can use it long term. $800 a year to avoid the migraines and have a piece of mind not worrying about a migraine creepin on sounds good.

Any sides at all.?

I didn’t have any. I wasn’t making enough at the time to support it, but now I can. It’s not a half bad idea actually.
But no, no sides. Not for me, anyway.


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[Machinist9]

Sorry to hear Machinist that the new med isn't working for her. It's a horrible situation man., I really hope she finds something to help her out. Migraines are ruthless and miserable.

Thank you. Its a horrible way to live. I've spent many a night at the hospital waiting to be able to take her home. Dalaudid and morphine shots and she was still suffering. The stress from waiting to be seen at the hospital doesn't help either.
Seems like every dr has his own cocktail of drugs to give to a migraine sufferer. Most of the time it doesn't work. Once she starts throwing up there's no helping. Just has to ride it out. She gets migraines now about 85 percent of the time. She hasn't had a good day yet since trying this new med and she was already hurting before she took it.

 

[Milford King]

That sucks boss...I’m telling ya if that was me I’d be trying anything that showed promise of relief and if I was in your shoes I’d buy the shrooms, grind them up, put them in her food or drink or something. I know it sounds like a dick move but if it helped her I’m sure she would get over it.

 

[REHH]

Thank you. Its a horrible way to live. I've spent many a night at the hospital waiting to be able to take her home. Dalaudid and morphine shots and she was still suffering. The stress from waiting to be seen at the hospital doesn't help either.
Seems like every dr has his own cocktail of drugs to give to a migraine sufferer. Most of the time it doesn't work. Once she starts throwing up there's no helping. Just has to ride it out. She gets migraines now about 85 percent of the time. She hasn't had a good day yet since trying this new med and she was already hurting before she took it.

Has she tried accupuncture?

 

[movingsteel 79]

Thank you. Its a horrible way to live. I've spent many a night at the hospital waiting to be able to take her home. Dalaudid and morphine shots and she was still suffering. The stress from waiting to be seen at the hospital doesn't help either.
Seems like every dr has his own cocktail of drugs to give to a migraine sufferer. Most of the time it doesn't work. Once she starts throwing up there's no helping. Just has to ride it out. She gets migraines now about 85 percent of the time. She hasn't had a good day yet since trying this new med and she was already hurting before she took it.

Damn brother., again I'm sorry to hear all this.,that's horrible that she gets them so frequently. I truly fear migraines and I dont get them nearly as often as your wife. I couldn't imagine all the back n forth between the Dr"s., ER visits..etc.. I imagine that just makes it worse.
Hopefully she can find exactly what helps her brother. Maybe she will eventually consider the possibility of Botox or Psilocybe or other alternatives. Good luck to you and your wife Machinist.

 

[Augustine5I]

As a physical therapist, headaches (HA) were very difficult for me to treat successfully and so I worked hard to figure this out... this approach has proven to be the most successful approach.

Simply, I work on the imbalances seen in the picture posted. Hard to say which one is more the issue, so I tackle all of them with a shotgun approach. Strengthen the "weaker" muscles and "lengthen" and loosen up the tighter muscles.

Usually, this yields good results. Even on clients who have suffered for years.

 

[GarlicChicken]

As a physical therapist, headaches (HA) were very difficult for me to treat successfully and so I worked hard to figure this out... this approach has proven to be the most successful approach.

Simply, I work on the imbalances seen in the picture posted. Hard to say which one is more the issue, so I tackle all of them with a shotgun approach. Strengthen the "weaker" muscles and "lengthen" and loosen up the tighter muscles.

Usually, this yields good results. Even on clients who have suffered for years.

I was thinking here that often migraines are actually caused by neck pain. I have this myself and it can be debilitating, as does my fiancee. What I've seen (and felt) happen is the pain will get so constant and severe that you completely lose the ability to locate the origin of the pain, so people start referring to it as only "migraines." This throws medical professionals off because they're usually too lazy to actually try to find the origin of the pain, so they shotgun treat specifically for migraines. If the migraines are actually being caused by something like a neurological/muscular imbalance/etc problem in the cervical or your back areas, the underlying problem is not addressed and therefore no relief is found.

This is the exact problem that both myself and my fiancee have had. Luckily I have a good enough connection with my body to notice where the pain starts, what causes it, etc so I figured out where my underlying problem was and pushed the doctors to pursue that. Turns out I have a syringomyelia in my spinal cord along with muscular imbalances. I had to fix the muscular issues myself. Almost the same with my fiancee, the stronger she gets in the surrounding muscle the less her symptoms. But she was in the same boat, the docs just kept trying to treat for migraine symptoms and it was an endless cycle of pain and defeat. 85-90% of the time she was miserable.

 

[CSOReaper]

I was thinking here that often migraines are actually caused by neck pain. I have this myself and it can be debilitating, as does my fiancee. What I've seen (and felt) happen is the pain will get so constant and severe that you completely lose the ability to locate the origin of the pain, so people start referring to it as only "migraines." This throws medical professionals off because they're usually too lazy to actually try to find the origin of the pain, so they shotgun treat specifically for migraines. If the migraines are actually being caused by something like a neurological/muscular imbalance/etc problem in the cervical or your back areas, the underlying problem is not addressed and therefore no relief is found.

This is the exact problem that both myself and my fiancee have had. Luckily I have a good enough connection with my body to notice where the pain starts, what causes it, etc so I figured out where my underlying problem was and pushed the doctors to pursue that. Turns out I have a syringomyelia in my spinal cord along with muscular imbalances. I had to fix the muscular issues myself. Almost the same with my fiancee, the stronger she gets in the surrounding muscle the less her symptoms. But she was in the same boat, the docs just kept trying to treat for migraine symptoms and it was an endless cycle of pain and defeat. 85-90% of the time she was miserable.

I think sometimes neck pain can be a cause, but most likely those are cluster headaches. Those are a bear too.

Mine is caused by emotions too. I learned long ago, to try and not let myself get pissed off about much. If I get very upset about something, here comes the migraine. With a 21 year old daughter, that is very tough to do sometimes.......

I think I am going to order one of the mushroom kits. You can grow them in your closet in a tiny container as they don't need light I believe. It isn't that expensive to buy the kit ready to go. Maybe 80-100 dollars. It would be WELL worth it if it works.

 

[Machinist9]

I think sometimes neck pain can be a cause, but most likely those are cluster headaches. Those are a bear too.

Mine is caused by emotions too. I learned long ago, to try and not let myself get pissed off about much. If I get very upset about something, here comes the migraine. With a 21 year old daughter, that is very tough to do sometimes.......

I think I am going to order one of the mushroom kits. You can grow them in your closet in a tiny container as they don't need light I believe. It isn't that expensive to buy the kit ready to go. Maybe 80-100 dollars. It would be WELL worth it if it works.

My attitude will effect my wifes well being. She is a worrier.
I have to keep my temper in check when i am around her. I'm not mad at her she just cant stand to see me like that and it stresses her out to were she gets a migraine. Its a fine line. She has tin foil over the bedroom windows for those times when she needs to just lay in the dark. The sun light can make them worse. I spend a lot of time alone because of this. Its ruff.

 

[Machinist9]

Www.Shroomsupply.com
But like i said she is to afraid to try it.

 

[Machinist9]

Has she tried accupuncture?

No she hasn't.

 

[Augustine5I]

I was thinking here that often migraines are actually caused by neck pain. I have this myself and it can be debilitating, as does my fiancee. What I've seen (and felt) happen is the pain will get so constant and severe that you completely lose the ability to locate the origin of the pain, so people start referring to it as only "migraines." This throws medical professionals off because they're usually too lazy to actually try to find the origin of the pain, so they shotgun treat specifically for migraines. If the migraines are actually being caused by something like a neurological/muscular imbalance/etc problem in the cervical or your back areas, the underlying problem is not addressed and therefore no relief is found.

This is the exact problem that both myself and my fiancee have had. Luckily I have a good enough connection with my body to notice where the pain starts, what causes it, etc so I figured out where my underlying problem was and pushed the doctors to pursue that. Turns out I have a syringomyelia in my spinal cord along with muscular imbalances. I had to fix the muscular issues myself. Almost the same with my fiancee, the stronger she gets in the surrounding muscle the less her symptoms. But she was in the same boat, the docs just kept trying to treat for migraine symptoms and it was an endless cycle of pain and defeat. 85-90% of the time she was miserable.

TMJ issues are also an overlooked cause for migraines. As an aside.

But you are right, that migraines or "tension headaches" are often due to the imbalances I posted earlier. A lot of research has gone into this area and doctors often diagnose migraines and treat with injections/medications bc they don't know what else to do.

When in fact, by virtue of ones occupation or other factors, including previous injuries to the region, these imbalances are the origin of the "migraine."

For example, tight pectoral and upper traps feed into this imbalance. How many of us work pecs/chest and upper traps? This would only create and feed into the situation.

Anyway, good luck. Try to restore flexibility in the tight areas and strengthen the weak areas. My clients will often see a change in their symptoms in a week or two.

The only thing you have to lose, is your headache.

 

[movingsteel 79]

Forgot to mention Machinist., has she tried a facial and or a cranial massage by a real massotherapist(not a relaxation massage but a therapeutic massage). My deep tissue massage therapist has numerous clients that seek her out for the facial/cranial massages for migraine treatment. It's a bit different than laying on the table for a deep tissue massage. You sit in a chair very comfortably and the chair adjusts to be able to work different angles and stuff. Some of her clients have been going to her for a decade or longer for this treatment.
As a few guys above mentioned there are some things overlooked by Drs and they never get to the root of the problem cuz they dont check EVERY POSSIBLE CAUSE...its easier for the Dr to write an RX and send em on thier way. I was having pretty bad headaches at the back of my head a while ago which was very unusual for me because the location of my migraines normally seem to start from the exact opposite place., she worked on both my Splenius Capitis' and it seemed to work out an impinged nerve.,or something because about 1hr later I had no headache., no pain or stiffness and that one in the back of my head hasn't returned once. So I assume that particular headache was from and impinged nerve.
To be completely transparent though., the facial/cranial massages did NOTHING for me personally in regards to an actual Migraine., but knowing she has many other clients she has had great success with I thought it might be worth mentioning. It may not work., or it could make a huge difference., Just thinking about other ways since the meds dont seem to he helping her and she doesn't want to try Botox or Psilocybe. This is another alternative with no medication or any substances so I thought I would throw that idea out there.

 

[Machinist9]

I used to massage her head for her and it would help to relax her. That would help if it hadn't gotten very bad yet. No she hasn't ever been to a professional. The closest to that would be a chiropractor who only made things worse by adjusting her neck.
Thank you to all of you for all the info you have given me. She isn't done with this medicine and as her journey continues i will post any changes in dosage and results.

 

[movingsteel 79]

Good luck with everything brother and stay positive.!! Things will get much better for both u guys when she finds a good treatment that works for her.!!!

 

[Machinist9]

Well there is a little bit of relief. There have been days when she hasn't taken her imitrex. She was taking it every day. Some days half a pill and a whole pill other days. So this has made a difference. When she can she is going to try to get the dr to up the dose and see what that does. This might be something that helps after all. I hope so.

 

[GarlicChicken]

Well there is a little bit of relief. There have been days when she hasn't taken her imitrex. She was taking it every day. Some days half a pill and a whole pill other days. So this has made a difference. When she can she is going to try to get the dr to up the dose and see what that does. This might be something that helps after all. I hope so.

Outstanding! That's really good to hear. If it keeps up it'll really improve her quality of life. Good to hear!

 

[Machinist9]

Outstanding! That's really good to hear. If it keeps up it'll really improve her quality of life. Good to hear!

Thanks. I hope so. Been a long time dealing with migraines for her.

 

[Ironman2001]

I suffered from migraines for 15 yrs. I started out on midrib, then imitrex poll, then imitrex shot and I finally was prescribed a drug named maxhalt mlt . It was a absolute game changer and life saver!!!! The tablet dissolves under your tongue and would start giving me relief from even my worst migraines within 20 mins or so. I lose vision , throw up violently , need total darkness, no sound and I used to pray for death! For those of you suffering, I would talk to my physician and give this a try.


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[Machinist9]

I suffered from migraines for 15 yrs. I started out on midrib, then imitrex poll, then imitrex shot and I finally was prescribed a drug named maxhalt mlt . It was a absolute game changer and life saver!!!! The tablet dissolves under your tongue and would start giving me relief from even my worst migraines within 20 mins or so. I lose vision , throw up violently , need total darkness, no sound and I used to pray for death! For those of you suffering, I would talk to my physician and give this a try.


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Thank you brother. My wife has tried that and didn't work for her.

 

[Ironman2001]

Thank you brother. My wife has tried that and didn't work for her.

I’m sorry to hear that brother. I thought I might have had a solution for your wife. I hope she finds relief soon .I understand the hell and pain the sufferer has to endure, but It also affects everyone close to them as well. This is just another example of how drugs give each individual different results.


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[movingsteel 79]

Great to hear Machinist.!! Hopefully she continues to respond to this treatment. Any improvements are great when suffering from migraines man. As always.. best of luck to you and your wife as you guys make your way through all this. Will watch for updates brother.

 

[Machinist9]

She received her second injection yesterday. Its a easy process to pin. Just push against your stomach and hit the auto inject button. Yellow color in the side window indicates its all in. Same mg as the first one so we shall see how it goes.

 

[CSOReaper]

Refresh me machinist, second pin of what?