Low libido

[Natty86]

I have been doing a lot of reading to try and figure this out on my own, but I'm getting some conflicting info. My brief history: 54 y.o. started having trouble with my libido. I did roids for a few years in my 20s, but none since. Libido has been fairly normal since then. Recently I really entered a slump so I got some test e from a gym buddy- worked amazing at 300/week. Decided to do trt clinic route. They put me on 200 test cyp/week with Arimidex mixed in along with gonadorelin. Libido went to shit, worse than b4. So stopped that and went back on test e 300/week and deca 150/week (it works miracles for me and my joints literally feel like I'm 20). But, libido still sucks. Not sure what to do. Thinking high prolactin due to deca (?) but it's a pretty small dose. Any suggestions? Really could use some help here. Btw, been off the Adex about 2 weeks

 

[Canebrake]

Health labs.com or privatemdlabs.com

If you’re able to get your own blood work done. Start there. Prolactin, Total and Free test and estradiol sensitive. Those are the main markers you want to look at.

Or just drop everything but the testosterone. The deca will take 3-4 weeks to clear your system though. Then see how you feel

 

[Wiseguy]

Blood work will reveal. Not sure why they give you AI at 200mg of test. To me its totally ridiculous. AI's can wreck havoc on you if not taken properly. Its not by feeling and its only by blood work. I ran test as high as 600mg per week without need of AI.

Anyway, Test/Masteron and proviorn will bring your sex life back and than some. I am 57 and more active than I was in my 20's.

Get the blood work done and forget about the guess work. Good luck.

 

[GYMnTONIC]

Estrogen and or prolactin.

HCG is the best option for libido. It shines at 250-500iu 2x a week. Stay on Cialis Ed even say 5mgs which is what is most often prescribed daily.

Deca def can F up libido and erections. I fought for years w that Taiean guy who says it's not possible... I don't entertain the thoughts of such blatant ignorance. .any compound can cause a lack of libido.

Also brain chemicals also effect libido as does mood and ESPECIALLY anxiety disorder.

I've worked w so many patients and clients who can't get an erection because of paranoia aka anxiety.

They fear themselves into failing...also blood pressure spikes can also be a culprit, which is also anxiety related.

Libido can be physical or psychological. Getting labs is the first step

Recreational drug use like MJ and cocaine also has been shown to stimulate libido. So think dopamine and serotonin.

In no way am I encouraging use...but let's look FACTUALLY at the mechanism and try to replicate it legally and safely.

 

[Natty86]

Thank you for the replies. I'll start with the blood work. I really hate to stop the deca, because honestly, I'd rather have a crappy libido, but jump out of bed every morning pain free, unlike before. Ive been lifting hard and heavy for years,, so you know... I was hoping there was a way to keep the deca and still keep my wife happy. Not kidding when I say the deca is a miracle drug for me.

 

[Natty86]

I've had a couple friends say the same thing about the Arimidex, does seem weird. I'll give hcg a shot too. Seems a little harder to find on some sites.

 

[Natty86]

Thanks again guys!

 

[ldog]

Estrogen and or prolactin.

HCG is the best option for libido. It shines at 250-500iu 2x a week. Stay on Cialis Ed even say 5mgs which is what is most often prescribed daily.

Deca def can F up libido and erections. I fought for years w that Taiean guy who says it's not possible... I don't entertain the thoughts of such blatant ignorance. .any compound can cause a lack of libido.

Also brain chemicals also effect libido as does mood and ESPECIALLY anxiety disorder.

I've worked w so many patients and clients who can't get an erection because of paranoia aka anxiety.

They fear themselves into failing...also blood pressure spikes can also be a culprit, which is also anxiety related.

Libido can be physical or psychological. Getting labs is the first step

Recreational drug use like MJ and cocaine also has been shown to stimulate libido. So think dopamine and serotonin.

In no way am I encouraging use...but let's look FACTUALLY at the mechanism and try to replicate it legally and safely.

This.....bloodwork never lies. Wes also brings up some great points on the mental aspects of poor erections. Looking good, feeling good and having a positive attitude will always play a huge role in quality erections.

 

[hot rod]

Thank you for the replies. I'll start with the blood work. I really hate to stop the deca, because honestly, I'd rather have a crappy libido, but jump out of bed every morning pain free, unlike before. Ive been lifting hard and heavy for years,, so you know... I was hoping there was a way to keep the deca and still keep my wife happy. Not kidding when I say the deca is a miracle drug for me.

Proviron bro- 50 mgs a day and or masteron-just a low dose( maybe 2-300) which is low for mast- does wonders for me. Good luck man! -HR

 

[Matt88]

When you get blood work make sure you pull your total test AND free test. If all your test is bound up by shbg your free test will be low. That's why so many guys use proviron and/or masteron. Myself being one of them.

Obviously estrogen and prolactin are at the top of the list of things to check but I wanted to mention the not so obvious thing to check as well. Don't want you getting blood work that doesn't provide an answer to your issue no matter how rare or not rare the cause is.

 

[gearhead80]

Easily one of the best support threads I have seen yet. Love this place!

 

[Natty86]

Thank you all for your advice. I will do what you say, try some of the different drugs and get my blood work. Really appreciate the support!! You guys rock! I'm determined to get things balanced and have a lot to learn.

 

[Canebrake]

NPP has a better effect on me over Deca. Why I don’t know. They are both Nandrolones with different esters attached to them.

Maybe switch to that over Deca for joint discomfort

 

[Pete44]

I have never had low libido in my life. I have done so much gear that I swoll my prostate. When I was younger 26 . It hurt to cum or shit. Trial &error

 

[Matt88]

I have never had low libido in my life. I have done so much gear that I swoll my prostate. When I was younger 26 . It hurt to cum or shit. Trial &error

Enlarged prostate due to DHT I'd guess.

 

[Pete44]

Enlarged prostate due to DHT I'd guess.

Probably so Matt

 

[Natty86]

I'm not familiar with npp. Is that how it's labeled or is that the initials of the stuff?
Prostate is fine, pee maybe twice a night, but drink lots of water in a day.
Again, thanks for the help!

 

[Natty86]

OK, I know what npp is now. Definitely will try that

 

[Skinnyguy180]

Get the blood work before getting anything else. One of the answers is right in here but the blood work is the only way to be sure of what is going on.

 

[Natty86]

I agree and will be doing that next week, thanks!

 

[Fletcher]

Arimidex is garbage. Use aromasin brother.

 

[hot rod]

Thank you for the replies. I'll start with the blood work. I really hate to stop the deca, because honestly, I'd rather have a crappy libido, but jump out of bed every morning pain free, unlike before. Ive been lifting hard and heavy for years,, so you know... I was hoping there was a way to keep the deca and still keep my wife happy. Not kidding when I say the deca is a miracle drug for me.

I love deca as well- Proviron did the trick for me- hope it does for u! Good luck!

 

[Vision]

I have been doing a lot of reading to try and figure this out on my own, but I'm getting some conflicting info. My brief history: 54 y.o. started having trouble with my libido. I did roids for a few years in my 20s, but none since. Libido has been fairly normal since then. Recently I really entered a slump so I got some test e from a gym buddy- worked amazing at 300/week. Decided to do trt clinic route. They put me on 200 test cyp/week with Arimidex mixed in along with gonadorelin. Libido went to shit, worse than b4. So stopped that and went back on test e 300/week and deca 150/week (it works miracles for me and my joints literally feel like I'm 20). But, libido still sucks. Not sure what to do. Thinking high prolactin due to deca (?) but it's a pretty small dose. Any suggestions? Really could use some help here. Btw, been off the Adex about 2 weeks

We can start throwing all sorts of ideas and protocols to try and treat and target your low libido, but these will be nothing more than just Band-Aids without actually seeing some real time blood work.
My suggestion would be to get some bloods, but specifically be sure to get the following -
Total test, free test , shbg, and ultra sensitive estro..

Seeing what your free test is doing, where your shbg is at and what your estro is doing, will give you a much more clear picture rather than just brainstorming.
What is your test doing? Test has many functions, and there is conversions upon conversions upon conversions that can take place.

People can speculate all day, and it's nothing more than being as accurate as attempting to hit a bullseye on a moving target while blindfolded.. a bunch of wild guesses. Probably good ones. But still guesses.

Get some blood work buddy, you owe yourself that much.
Soon as you get some blood, you'll be surprised on how quick this could be dialed in for you..

If getting blood work is not an option or something to consider.
You might want to switch up your AI, adex is terrible and I had that on script for years. And toss in some maste

Give your trt dosage the benefit of the doubt while running it concurrent with an equal amount of mastE.. 200/200, no more, no less.

Very complimentary. For myself personally that's what i'm dosed at, not only has it helped, assisted and kept my libido healthy, it has helped me from falling into states of depression from life circumstances, whether incidental or consequential. I for the most part always felt good.

 

[Natty86]

Wow! Good information, thanks. I am set up for a blood work next week, so I'll get this solved. Really appreciate your insight!

 

[TheOldJJdigs]

I wouldn’t expect anything less…. A bunch of great guys giving you some really great advice. GymNTonic, Vision, Matt,Hot Rod, Idog… all bringing your best advice. Blood work is your answer.

I would only add, and it’s been mentioned already, you being on an AI is probably trashing your Estrogen. I can tell you from personal experience with crashing my estrogen more times than I can even tell you… my libido was non existent. At the 200mg dose I see no real reason for you to be on an AI (especially Adex). Blood work is your answer… in the mean time/after your blood work you may want to consider dropping your AI all together. You may want to consider adding Proviron or Masteron to your TRT. Consulting your doctor to ask if a low dose of Cialis daily is a good idea… some guys take 5 or 10mg ED and in turn helping with high BP as well.

Dealing with dialing in the correct numbers is the hardest part of this game we all play. Dialing in estrogen is something that even the Vets with 20 years + experience have a difficult time doing… E2 is a slippery slope. In part with why it’s so difficult is that each one of us are different. We aromatize differently and we adjust differently. Some may experience a boost in libido with higher E2 numbers while others are left feeling lethargic, mood changes and change in sex drive/libido. Some men have a target range and if they are out of that range it effects them greatly.

 

[Natty86]

Thank you! I'll share some of the pertinent numbers when I get them next week

 

[Vision]

Thank you! I'll share some of the pertinent numbers when I get them next week

Something to keep in mind here, when you post your blood work, and whatever happens from there, if and when the issue gets resolved, EVERYBODY learns something here not just you. Hopefully we can help you, and from there it will help others.

 

[Natty86]

Understood. I didn't think of it that way, but you're right. Seems like a fairly common problem and hopefully the blood work shows something out of wack that's easy to fix..