Is is all about the packaging?

[GasmanX]

So I have been on the forum for a couple months reading and vetting sources. Down to about 3-4 that have overwhelming positive reviews, all domestic. When it comes to risk mitigation obtaining these compounds, do you think a sources packaging methods are what keeps you in the clear? Obviously, things can happen in transit outside of a sources control. To be clear, I'm not asking what methods are used. Looking to hear from the vets who have been at this a long time. I'm under no illusions this is risk free and that the alphabet agencies won't go after somebody for personal use. Appreciate your input.

 

[Powerhousehb]

It's a crazy world we live in. I have received international packages where the vials were in a thick plastic bag. You can feel the vials and customs missed it. Then I have had small packages come with stealth bags inside the box. Now if and when I order international I always ask if my products can be placed in a stealth bag then boxed. I have made about 45 - 50 orders so far. I have yet to have a package seized. It comes down to 2 things. Proper packaging and a little luck that customs skips your package.

 

[Astro95]

When it comes to domestic there’s maybe a .1% chance your pack will get stopped. Unless an address is flagged it’ll end up at your doorstep, there’s soooo many packages moving around it’s just another one. They don’t search them. Only time stealth comes into play is if the pack becomes damaged and they’re able to see inside without opening it. If proper stealth applied it’s just whatever and the pack keeps moving, if the source just threw some vials in clear plastic or something then yeah you’re probably shit out of luck. If your package never becomes damaged therefore visible it’ll never be stopped.

 

[Seattlesbest]

Even if a package is compromised and people see what's inside they don't automatically assume illegal steroids more than likely a prescription coming through the mail.

As long as the vials don't say "big dick Labs" or some stupid fuckin shit

 

[Chan]

It’s always in the back of my mind also, but like said unless your being watched already it’s getting to you. Never had a package from a sponsor yet that I was not impressed with packaging of.

 

[rdm]

Domestic packs are 99.9% of the time going to reach you. The 0.1% is reserved for busts or USPS "misplacing" it.

 

[Sunrise Pharma]

Domestic shipping is pretty safe, but just takes one unconcealed leaking vial or a less than desirable packaging process to get the order pulled aside for inspection.

Check your lab out, ask them how they package, check reviews on the quality of their product delivery. Packaging quality and taking the extra step for safety precautions with the shipment process is a huge part of our business. I don't take it lightly. None of us in this industry should take it lightly. A compromise is bad for all of us.

My message is "Don't take packaging and Shipping lightly".

Best Regards,

Casey.
casey@sunrisepharma.co

 

[badgerz94]

Always use domestic. Pay the extra money. Before I found reputable domestic sources, I used international and over the years, had 3 packages seized.

I would get letters in the mail from customs and a form showing the perceived value of the gear(it was hilarious, they would value 5 vials of Test at $50, 100 tabs of Winny at $20, etc). I always thought to myself, I wish US Customs was a supplier since they had great prices. Then there was a form asking if I wanted to dispute the seizure. Obviously, I didn't. But the headaches of then having to rent a UPS box since my address was flagged and waiting for the supplier to reship the stuff was awful.

That is why it is worth the cost for domestic. I have used 3 domestic sources on ASF, 2 are still here, AY is unfortunately on a Caribbean island somewhere. All had great, multiple sealed protection. Even if a vial had broken, I'm fairly certain that it would not have gotten to the cardboard part of the packaging

Peace of mind is worth the extra 20-30% more that you might pay using domestic instead of international.

 

[Bando]

I wouldn’t worry at all about packaging for domestic. International is a different story but you are being way overly cautious for domestic.

 

[Fletcher]

So I have been on the forum for a couple months reading and vetting sources. Down to about 3-4 that have overwhelming positive reviews, all domestic. When it comes to risk mitigation obtaining these compounds, do you think a sources packaging methods are what keeps you in the clear? Obviously, things can happen in transit outside of a sources control. To be clear, I'm not asking what methods are used. Looking to hear from the vets who have been at this a long time. I'm under no illusions this is risk free and that the alphabet agencies won't go after somebody for personal use. Appreciate your input.

Nobody in LE gives a flying fuck about your personal order.
Hope this helps.

 

[Fletcher]

They want CASH, CARS AND REAL ESTATE .
The DEA and LE in general are just a gang. A business.
They wont spend $10,000 for a 24 hour operation to bust somebody for $300 worth of gear.
If the juice aint worth the squeeze, you wont get squeezed.
How do you think all these decade old sponsors are still around?
LE is cashing in on Fentanyl right now. Enjoy.

 

[Iron Butterfly]

I had one international order arrive with 2 broken vials inside which leaked their way through to the outside of the package. It was a total disaster. Nevertheless, it made it through Customs.

Then, on the other hand, I've had orders checked by Customs inside and out when everthing appeared perfect and there was NOTHING illegal inside.

 

[domestic-supply]

There is no luck there bro. Shipments from certains countries are not being scritunized while shipments from Thailand or Moldova (for example) are getting alot more attention in customs.
Express mail shipments are being inspected much more frequently too.
That stealth packaging doesnt mean much, if package gets X-rayed that packaging wouldnt fool anyone. If your packs are coming through it means they are being shipped from "customs friendly" countries and they are smaller packages. Try to send Anabol via EMS from Bangkok and DEA agent will show up at the sender`s door few hours later.

It's a crazy world we live in. I have received international packages where the vials were in a thick plastic bag. You can feel the vials and customs missed it. Then I have had small packages come with stealth bags inside the box. Now if and when I order international I always ask if my products can be placed in a stealth bag then boxed. I have made about 45 - 50 orders so far. I have yet to have a package seized. It comes down to 2 things. Proper packaging and a little luck that customs skips your package.