Im a F@&$?!! Idiot

[hermgreen03]

I posted like 2 weeks ago that my test levels were terrible. I believe they were at 98. I couldn't figure out why. Well....I'm a dumb ass. I've been on rad 140 for 8 weeks. Completely wrecked my natural test levels. How I forgot to mention this and how it slipped my mind is beyond me. I wanted to start my test cycle, but I want to get my levels back up and everything going again. So I plan on pct'n with tamoxifen and clomephine for 4 weeks. Than getting my labs done again. I feel like a complete idiot. Rad was awesome though. I definitely restored some old muscle that has been dormant since my early 20's. But I don't think I would do it again. Depression, lack of motivation, terrible sleep and crazy lower back pumps in the gym. So now I'm on a journey to get everything firing again before I do a real cycle. I honestly considered hcg to help get everything going again. Any thoughts or tips on speeding this up? I don't want to jump on test with everything that low. Unless it would be more beneficial than doing a pct. Thoughts?

 

[Powerhousehb]

It was a senior moment. We all have them. 😂 I have never touched SARMS. I've always used gear. Your on the right path. Pct then blood work to make sure everything looks good. Then run your cycle.

 

[Astro95]

I always say this about sarms, especially how rad140 wrecks bloodwork and shuts you down amongst other sarms.

 

[rdm]

Why PCT if you plan to jump right on Test afterwards which will just suppress your natural levels all over again?

My advice would be to just transition right to TRT.

 

[zionoir626]

How old are you..??
Were your normal levels in range before..??
Z...

 

[Milford King]

Restored dormant muscles?

We can do that?

Omg how could I not realize this…..

To answer your question tho…. It makes zero sense to “restore” test levels with PCT just to jump back on a cycle that’s going to shut you down…

I’d jump on my cycle now and then PCT afterwards, if you plan on coming off for extended time periods.

 

[Fletcher]

I posted like 2 weeks ago that my test levels were terrible. I believe they were at 98. I couldn't figure out why. Well....I'm a dumb ass. I've been on rad 140 for 8 weeks. Completely wrecked my natural test levels. How I forgot to mention this and how it slipped my mind is beyond me. I wanted to start my test cycle, but I want to get my levels back up and everything going again. So I plan on pct'n with tamoxifen and clomephine for 4 weeks. Than getting my labs done again. I feel like a complete idiot. Rad was awesome though. I definitely restored some old muscle that has been dormant since my early 20's. But I don't think I would do it again. Depression, lack of motivation, terrible sleep and crazy lower back pumps in the gym. So now I'm on a journey to get everything firing again before I do a real cycle. I honestly considered hcg to help get everything going again. Any thoughts or tips on speeding this up? I don't want to jump on test with everything that low. Unless it would be more beneficial than doing a pct. Thoughts?

Explain how tamixofen is going to help you.

 

[zionoir626]

Restored dormant muscles?

We can do that?

Omg how could I not realize this…..

To answer your question tho…. It makes zero sense to “restore” test levels with PCT just to jump back on a cycle that’s going to shut you down…

I’d jump on my cycle now and then PCT afterwards, if you plan on coming off for extended time periods.

I was thinking that too..but how long has it been that low??
If he's still producing a good normal level, the longer it's low, the more risk of it NOT rebounding..
Just my thought..
Z...

 

[Durro]

I say the same thing why restore when your going to shut it down again.

 

[hermgreen03]

I was thinking that too..but how long has it been that low??
If he's still producing a good normal level, the longer it's low, the more risk of it NOT rebounding..
Just my thought..
Z...

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Explain how tamixofen is going to help you.

it's tamoxifen. Nolvadex. I lifted a lot from 16-22 years old. And got to a decent size. Than after my first kid I just stopped. I guess I mean the whole muscle memory thing. Im getting a lot of what I had back a lot faster than I expected. I'll jump to the testosterone than and pct afterwards. I may look into using hcg as well towards the end. Or I may just cruise low dose. I

 

[Fletcher]

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it's tamoxifen. Nolvadex. I lifted a lot from 16-22 years old. And got to a decent size. Than after my first kid I just stopped. I guess I mean the whole muscle memory thing. Im getting a lot of what I had back a lot faster than I expected. I'll jump to the testosterone than and pct afterwards. I may look into using hcg as well towards the end. Or I may just cruise low dose. I

I know what it is, why are you planning on taking it?

 

[hermgreen03]

How old are you..??
Were your normal levels in range before..??
Z...

Yes my levels were fine prior to the rad cycle. I honestly just wanted to see fast results to keep me motivated and continue my weight lifting journey. It's worked for me because my strength has definitely went up and I can tell that I'm lifting again. My wife already notices and I've only been back in the gym for 2 months.

 

[hermgreen03]

I know what it is, why are you planning on taking it?

I just read that's what people we're using for pct for rad 140. I have that and clomephine as well as a ai on hand for the test cycle. But the more reading I do the more it makes sense just to stay on. It's cheap enough and easily accessible. And if it makes me feel better than I'll stick with it.

 

[Fletcher]

I just read that's what people we're using for pct for rad 140. I have that and clomephine as well as a ai on hand for the test cycle. But the more reading I do the more it makes sense just to stay on. It's cheap enough and easily accessible. And if it makes me feel better than I'll stick with it.

Tamoxifen is a breast cancer drug. It specifically prevents estrogen from binding to breast tissue.
Has nothing to do with restoring natural test levels brother. It also destroys your bone density.

 

[Fletcher]

Just hop on some test, have aromasin on hand for week 4 and beyond.

 

[hermgreen03]

Just hop on some test, have aromasin on hand for week 4 and beyond.

Ok will do. I will be starting this pm. Thanks for the help. I assumed that nolvadex was a common pct drug along with clomid and hcg. You use nolva and clomid for a basic 4-6 week pct protocol. From what I've been reading anyways. I hate asking those kinds of questions without looking for the information myself first. But than I feel like a dumbass for assuming what I've read was right. I get a lot of information from steroidcyle.org and even purchased his ebook.

 

[hermgreen03]

Just hop on some test, have aromasin on hand for week 4 and beyond.

Just want to say you reply extremely fast to a lot of my posts and I appreciate that. I definitely enjoy talking with people that have experience and I don't mind criticism at all. Yall know way more than me and any information I get from you or anyone else on this site I take very seriously. As well as researching on my own. Thanks again for looking out for guys like me and anyone else trying to figure this stuff out.

 

[Skinnyguy180]

The longer you stay shut down especially when older the harder it can be to get back your natural test.

If you don’t plan or want to end up on trt breaks are suggested. But even then there is no guarantee. Also nothing wrong with trt either especially for older guys.

If you are just going to wait long enough for your test to come back before hammering it back down with testosterone then might as well just jump on the cycle.

But if you are planning on giving you HTPA an actual break you would want to stay off everything for longer before starting test. This will give you a better chance at recovery after your cycle.


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[hermgreen03]

The longer you stay shut down especially when older the harder it can be to get back your natural test.

If you don’t plan or want to end up on trt breaks are suggested. But even then there is no guarantee. Also nothing wrong with trt either especially for older guys.

If you are just going to wait long enough for your test to come back before hammering it back down with testosterone then might as well just jump on the cycle.

But if you are planning on giving you HTPA an actual break you would want to stay off everything for longer before starting test. This will give you a better chance at recovery after your cycle.


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I'll be discussing this with my wife tonight. I honestly want to just stay on testosterone. Even if it's not through a clinic. I can get all the lab work from my doctor. That's how I got my recent labs.

 

[Fletcher]

Just want to say you reply extremely fast to a lot of my posts and I appreciate that. I definitely enjoy talking with people that have experience and I don't mind criticism at all. Yall know way more than me and any information I get from you or anyone else on this site I take very seriously. As well as researching on my own. Thanks again for looking out for guys like me and anyone else trying to figure this stuff out.

😎
Yeah I wasnt being critical but its important to understand the mechanics of things before using them.
There are many "common" protocols that are non-sensical.
There are many guys here including myself that are always willing to help.

 

[JJB1]

I posted like 2 weeks ago that my test levels were terrible. I believe they were at 98. I couldn't figure out why. Well....I'm a dumb ass. I've been on rad 140 for 8 weeks. Completely wrecked my natural test levels. How I forgot to mention this and how it slipped my mind is beyond me. I wanted to start my test cycle, but I want to get my levels back up and everything going again. So I plan on pct'n with tamoxifen and clomephine for 4 weeks. Than getting my labs done again. I feel like a complete idiot. Rad was awesome though. I definitely restored some old muscle that has been dormant since my early 20's. But I don't think I would do it again. Depression, lack of motivation, terrible sleep and crazy lower back pumps in the gym. So now I'm on a journey to get everything firing again before I do a real cycle. I honestly considered hcg to help get everything going again. Any thoughts or tips on speeding this up? I don't want to jump on test with everything that low. Unless it would be more beneficial than doing a pct. Thoughts?

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[Matt88]

Man, you are sounding like me. Forgetting the most obvious thing that is right in front of you. I`ll do that sort of thing where I am looking at the most detailed aspect of something and completely skip over the very basic aspect of it that is right in front of my face lol.

There is not benefit in you raising your natural levels just to start test bc as soon as u start test u are going to crash your natural level again. Unless you plan to wait a while before you start the test cycle to give your body a rest in which case it would be good to get that natural level back and going etc.

If you run rad-140 again just run a test base and you will avoid all those low Test symptoms you had. The exogenous test being in play will give you a base test level while the rad-140 does it`s thing.

Just realize and know that where you are shutting down your natural Test level for prolonged periods of time that you are running the risk of doing permanent damage and needing to be on Test for the rest of your life. I feel before anyone touches Test, SARMS, Anabolics etc they should be okay with the possibility of needing to be on Test forever. Is this likely to happen? No. Is it a possible outcome? Yes.

 

[Wiseguy]

I think you have lot to learn before touching gear. PCT? Why would you do a PCT when you are going to start injecting gear right after? After second shot of test your levels are going to jump to 900 to 1200 range.

Pct is when you are getting off cycle and going to be off for months not to start a cycle.

Good luck.but I highly suggest you pass until you understand these compounds.