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I Hate Tren!

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I have used Tren no less then 20 cycles. So many times

I despise this compound.

I think it is the most insane drug to show the fastest results. You will get stronger, leaner and more jacked off this drug then any other drug

Parabolan, HEX, methyl tren, you name it. I have used them all

But the side effects imo are not worth it. Tren has the absolute most permanent and worst sides out of any drug that exists.

Besides DNP I hate tren the most.

I am paid to help clients on cycles and tren is a drug I just can't defeat. No one can. When you suffer sides they can be BRUTAL and permanent.

Agree or disagree? All opinions welcome.
 
Back in the old days 25 - 30 years ago I never of Tren. In the circle of guys I hung out with. These days at 52 Its to risky and some of the sides I just couldn't handle. It's a good thing.
 
You will get stronger, leaner and more jacked off this drug then any other drug

Jacked off.... :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao: Tren is indeed good at that as well.

I dunno...if things are done in moderation, I don't think it's all that bad. But moderation is highly dependent upon individual. I only microdose it when using it...someone else can run 600mg and not have any sides (supposedly). I just cringe at the threads that start off with "XYZ compound really messes me up, what can I take to fix it?" Fuggin don't use it then. If something skyrockets your blood pressure, you don't start popping bp meds so you can keep running it. Be smart.
 
I have used Tren no less then 20 cycles. So many times

I despise this compound.

I think it is the most insane drug to show the fastest results. You will get stronger, leaner and more jacked off this drug then any other drug

Parabolan, HEX, methyl tren, you name it. I have used them all

But the side effects imo are not worth it. Tren has the absolute most permanent and worst sides out of any drug that exists.

Besides DNP I hate tren the most.

I am paid to help clients on cycles and tren is a drug I just can't defeat. No one can. When you suffer sides they can be BRUTAL and permanent.

Agree or disagree? All opinions welcome.
i totally agree, wes. i’m a huge advocate against tren. the ramifications of that compound are absolutely crazy. the side effects while on tren are nasty, and the long lasting impact can be devastating. the link with tren and alzheimer’s is very scary. i would never suggest running tren. the mental state the compound puts people in is absolutely crazy.
 
Tren has a lot of very harsh side effects, both physiological and mental. You really have to ask yourself what you are looking to get out of tren and a lot of people over estimate the dosage to get that.
100mg of tren can go a LONG way.
 
I was listening to a Podcast. Cant remember what bodybuilder it was but over 300 pounds and he Said 10 mg A-day completely changes his physique.

I have almost no side effects on the outside but but I think it's fucking me up pretty good on the inside.
 
I was listening to a Podcast. Cant remember what bodybuilder it was but over 300 pounds and he Said 10 mg A-day completely changes his physique.

I have almost no side effects on the outside but but I think it's fucking me up pretty good on the inside.
It was James Hollingshead. He was saying just off 10mgs a day it cosmetically changes his look, harder and grainier. But James was already ripped at 270lbs before adding the tren.
 
With all do respect I disagree. It's dosage dependent, supplements, life style, over all health. I run it at age 57 and do my blood work regularly before and after cycles. Kidney function of a 20 year old, no liver issues, BP is 106/57 total cholesterol is 140, I don't get angry, lose sleep, night sweats, nothing. The only side I experience every time is the cough which I learned to handle it and it goes away in about a minute. I don't run tren over 300mg per week and that's all I need to accomplish my goals.
 
I found a way to deal with it. Treat it like an oral, in and out 3-5weeks. Do it sub-Q EOD 20-50mg.That way it is in and out long enough to have that dramatic tren effect but out fast enough so as not totally trash your androgen circuits.
 
I have used Tren no less then 20 cycles. So many times

I despise this compound.

I think it is the most insane drug to show the fastest results. You will get stronger, leaner and more jacked off this drug then any other drug

Parabolan, HEX, methyl tren, you name it. I have used them all

But the side effects imo are not worth it. Tren has the absolute most permanent and worst sides out of any drug that exists.

Besides DNP I hate tren the most.

I am paid to help clients on cycles and tren is a drug I just can't defeat. No one can. When you suffer sides they can be BRUTAL and permanent.

Agree or disagree? All opinions welcome.
Tren is definitely crazy strong being that it’s 5 times more anabolic and 5 times more androgenic than testosterone. I play with baby doses of tren a few times a year but only for a month maximum due to the inevitable toxic feeling I eventually get. I’m finishing up a few weeks run of tren at 10-20mg per day now. 10mg felt fine. 20mg is giving me anxiety and I’m starting to feel toxic. I look great but feeling healthy is a lot more important. You can’t train as hard when you feel toxic.
 
I think it all varies on person to person, dosage and the Tren used. I know an ester is just supposed to be that, but Tren E gives me WAY less sides, than Ace. Only thing I experienced on E was heavy sweats at the gym and one night of sweats. On Ace hell broke lose. It’s single man’s drug unless you’re Mr wiseguy and are immune to the craziness lol
 
I was listening to a Podcast. Cant remember what bodybuilder it was but over 300 pounds and he Said 10 mg A-day completely changes his physique.

I have almost no side effects on the outside but but I think it's fucking me up pretty good on the inside.
Why keep using it then?
 
I used to use a fair amount of tren but never thought it was that great really. I think trestolone ace is way better for muscle gain and strength it's just a bitch to control the estro for me at anymore then 5mgs a day. Well I guess it's not that difficult since ralox always works. For transforming as fast as possible I'd pick superdrol . Same boat as tren though. I don't think either should be ran very often. I feel fine on tren but it's obviously hard on the body weather I feel the sides or not. I'm not a competitor body builder though so I don't need that extra hardness tren gives.
 
And yet there is another thread saying Tren isn’t all it’s hyped up to be and that the same gains can be made on test.

I agree with Wes in that this drug is a game changer and with it potential sides not everyone can handle.
 
I have used Tren no less then 20 cycles. So many times

I despise this compound.

I think it is the most insane drug to show the fastest results. You will get stronger, leaner and more jacked off this drug then any other drug

Parabolan, HEX, methyl tren, you name it. I have used them all

But the side effects imo are not worth it. Tren has the absolute most permanent and worst sides out of any drug that exists.

Besides DNP I hate tren the most.

I am paid to help clients on cycles and tren is a drug I just can't defeat. No one can. When you suffer sides they can be BRUTAL and permanent.

Agree or disagree? All opinions welcome.
I definitely agree with this. I use DHB now. Not gonna give results like tren, but I like it.
 
Naturally chunky starving white guys like myself adore Tren. Once it starts to affect mood with my kids and wife though, gtta cut it. That grumpy attitude sneaks up on me, don’t even realize it until my wife brings it to my attention. Tren E all the way though. I prefer a cadillac smooth ride over a GTR with no brakes
 
I have used Tren no less then 20 cycles. So many times

I despise this compound.

I think it is the most insane drug to show the fastest results. You will get stronger, leaner and more jacked off this drug then any other drug

Parabolan, HEX, methyl tren, you name it. I have used them all

But the side effects imo are not worth it. Tren has the absolute most permanent and worst sides out of any drug that exists.

Besides DNP I hate tren the most.

I am paid to help clients on cycles and tren is a drug I just can't defeat. No one can. When you suffer sides they can be BRUTAL and permanent.

Agree or disagree? All opinions welcome.
Tren is a show level drug IMO.. if someone is making that type of commitment, than it may have a role. Other than that, the average gym juice head doesn't need tren..
 
Most of us are completely nuts without manipulating our hormones. Add tren to the mix and you’re a literal powder keg. I ain’t gonna lie I miss the over the top alpha that comes with tren but I’ll never touch the shit again.

Tren should have a disclaimer on the vial: “will fuck your life up faster than getting caught by your wife hammering a tranny…. Which you will definitely do if balls deep in a tren cycle and the opportunity arises… which it will cuz you will seek it out….because Tren”

So I’ve been told …. 🤨

Fuck tren bro … never again…. Well maybe one more time…but after that I’m done for realz.
 
I will agree with this explanation from my experiences.

I started using AAS entirely too young. I was 22 when I started my first cycle. Now, don’t get me wrong. I’m a nerd, I love chemistry, and I love to know how and why things work. So I definitely did my research, figured out the “so what” of running a cycle, and what ancillaries and support supplements to use while on cycle. BUT, that didn’t stop me from making stupid, rookie mistakes. I eventually used way too much gear per week (over 1 gram of total AAS), and used compounds far beyond my experience level/body maturity.

I have used Tren around 12 times, that’s an estimation. I will echo Wes’s words on it works fast, and the results are spectacular. But while those things are true, I will also say as I got older, the golden beast started affecting me WAY differently from the mental/emotional perspective. Mood swings, emotions all over the damned place, borderline bipolar tendencies, and an inability to realize what the Hell was wrong with me until I woke up to the fact that my body simply can’t handle Tren anymore, no matter the dose/ester. I envy people who can take it without issues. I definitely cannot.
 
I have used Tren no less then 20 cycles. So many times

I despise this compound.

I think it is the most insane drug to show the fastest results. You will get stronger, leaner and more jacked off this drug then any other drug

Parabolan, HEX, methyl tren, you name it. I have used them all

But the side effects imo are not worth it. Tren has the absolute most permanent and worst sides out of any drug that exists.

Besides DNP I hate tren the most.

I am paid to help clients on cycles and tren is a drug I just can't defeat. No one can. When you suffer sides they can be BRUTAL and permanent.

Agree or disagree? All opinions welcome.
Totally 100% agree. No explanation needed- other than the never ending list of TERRIBLE sides- the worst being wanting to blow my fuckin brains out after being w/ NO sleep after being off for 2 weeks and only doing 3 pins of 150mgs of ace over a weeks time. Fuck that shit- actually feel lucky to be alive.-HR
 

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