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Healthcare professional but steroid neophyte's first cycle

ZeroSum

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Hi all, Im looking forward to talking to you guys and learning more about an aspect of training Ive not explored yet. I do want to have a solid plan prior to starting and any suggestions or criticism are welcome. I am already aware that as a first time my first cycle should likely be testosterone only around the ballpark of 8-12 weeks long. The part that I am wanting more input for is for the adjuvant meds that I want to obtain for this first cycle.

Basic overview:

30yo
5'8
167 lbs
BF%: ~12-14%
Lifting experience: 10 years

The medications that I want to have on hand for my first cycle and their rationale is as follows:

Aromasin: Not something that I would take immediately but Id rather have it on hand if I need it after either 4-5wk labs or having notable estrogen sides
Finasteride: I was thinking 1mg daily for hairloss prevention, I naturally have a higher hairline but it is mostly intact; Id like it to stay as is so Id like to take it in an abundance of caution
Accutane: This one may be overkill for some people but I had friends that had pretty quick development of scarring cystic acne earlyish into their cycle and I would rather have it on hand if I needed it right away
Losartan: This one may surprise some people but I think strict BP control decreases the cardiovascular risk of a cycle even though it should go away after stopping test. Additionally, this medication's effects on the renin-angiotensin-aldosterone system (RAAS) has been noted to decrease (concentric) hypertrophic cardiac remodeling which is the type of muscle hypertrophy that you don't want. I may run this well into my PCT.
Nolvadex and HCG: Plan to use both as part of my PCT

So that's more or less the overview of my thought process, feel free to let me know what you guys think or if there are better alternatives to the compounds Ive listed above. Looking forward to being a part of this community!
 
Looks like you’re off to a good start. What dosage of T were you thinking of?
 
And Welcome!
 
Thanks! I was thinking of running 300mg; do you think that's good for a first-timer?
 
Welcome to the board there is so much information here.
 
Welcome bro.
Test only 300 good start..
U have a long list of meds can cause many problems imo..I'd rather deal with one side than take something that may cause a few more..
Just my opinion tho..good luck ,alot of great guys and info here
 
Welcome bro.
Test only 300 good start..
U have a long list of meds can cause many problems imo..I'd rather deal with one side than take something that may cause a few more..
Just my opinion tho..good luck ,alot of great guys and info here
Thanks for the welcome and I appreciate the feedback; which ones are less needed in your opinion?
 
Bloods will dictate aromasin use
Fina as a precaution not necessary, hair shedding is pretty normal. I'm over 40 with head of hair and thick beard
Accutane ,cross that bridge when/if u get there
Bp meds idk much about..may I suggest cialis
Nolvadex and hcg are the ones you will most likely need..
 
Bloods will dictate aromasin use
Fina as a precaution not necessary, hair shedding is pretty normal. I'm over 40 with head of hair and thick beard
Accutane ,cross that bridge when/if u get there
Bp meds idk much about..may I suggest cialis
Nolvadex and hcg are the ones you will most likely need..
I know Cialis and other PDE5 inhibitors were initially developed as BP meds, but you're saying they help with your BP during a cycle as well? Thats awesome, Ive never thought of that. I assumed the sides with Finasteride were pretty minimal since Id be running a base of test, what about it would make you want to avoid using prophylactically?
 
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I know Cialis and other PDE5 inhibitors were initially developed as BP meds, but you're saying they help with your BP during a cycle as well? Thats awesome, Ive never thought of that. I assumed the sides with Finasteride were pretty minimal since Id be running a base of test, what about it would make you want to avoid using prophylactically?
Well I run proviron and dht,so I don't think Fina even works while on that..
And I'm not into prophylactic anything, I have many kids lol...
Honestly using thing for a precautionary measure, it's just not me..I'm just a stubborn Irish guy who learned alot the hard way..lol
 
Well I run proviron and dht,so I don't think Fina even works while on that..
And I'm not into prophylactic anything, I have many kids lol...
Honestly using thing for a precautionary measure, it's just not me..I'm just a stubborn Irish guy who learned alot the hard way..lol
Lol Thats fair; I guess Im cautious by nature. Is there any sponsor here that could help me with accutane if I wanted to get it? Pharm grade only for me
 
I got a script for Finasteride and BP meds on my first cycle. unfortunately pretty prone to hair shedding going above 300mgs of test. I didn’t go above 350mgs on my cycle.
 
I got a script for Finasteride and BP meds on my first cycle. unfortunately pretty prone to hair shedding going above 300mgs of test. I didn’t go above 350mgs on my cycle.
How much Finasteride did you take for your shedding and did it work for you?
 
How much Finasteride did you take for your shedding and did it work for you?
The shedding stopped almost immediately. Went from losing 3-4 strands every time i brushed my hand through my hair to losing 0 within 2 days. I was only taking 1mg daily. Didn’t notice any side effects either.
 
WELCOME TO ASF! 👍
 
Welcome!

I’m not a fan of Fin. Imo, if you’re worried about hair loss AAS might not be the path for you.

Fin, made me feel like shit and it took a long time for my mood to recover.

I have read of anecdotal accounts of long term side from fin.

Other then that a well thought out first cycle.

My only other thoughts would be.

5mg if cialis daily for Blood pressure and pumps



Have you defined success for your first cycle?



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Welcome!

I’m not a fan of Fin. Imo, if you’re worried about hair loss AAS might not be the path for you.

Fin, made me feel like shit and it took a long time for my mood to recover.

I have read of anecdotal accounts of long term side from fin.

Other then that a well thought out first cycle.

My only other thoughts would be.

5mg if cialis daily for Blood pressure and pumps



Have you defined success for your first cycle?



List Available Here
How much Fin did you take when you were experiencing those sides?

Honestly I have no idea what to expect in terms of results; I eat pretty clean year round so a clean diet won't be a problem for me. If anything knowing the caloric surplus I should consume Im still not sure about, even after doing some reading. Any suggestions?
 
Welcome 💪
 
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