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Saw67 said:
Has anybody used there mast e and primo ?


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I’ve been running their Mast E for a few months and it’s freaking fantastic. No PIP and bloodwork shows my free test increased massively when I paired it with the Auctus Test Cyp. Oh and I have bloodwork while running the Auctus cyp as well. Top quality stuff. Highly recommend you give them a try.
 
Thanks for all replying Im currently running out of primo I been running from a different supplier I’ve been running for quite sometime now which I’m sad but oh well but have to use a different one due to my supplier not having none in stock so I guess I’ll give these guys a run!


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Products used: Test Cypionate, Primobolan Enanthate, and HCG.


Just wanted to share my experience using a H&B Auctus products. I’m about a year into my anabolic journey- 1 Test only blast using their Test Cypionate- it was overdosed at 278mg/ml! Never experienced pip or any negative reactions. 1st blast was a success.

2nd blast I went decided to add their Primo200 into the mix. I would consider this my first actual AAS blast. I kept the dose at 500/400 Test/Primo. I’ve done my research and it was expected to have atleast some pip at the very least. No pip at all- pip doesn’t exist to...
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Saw67 said:
Just really wanting quality and yes I do see that they have lab test up but everybody knows how todays world is with faking gear but I’m gonna go with my gut and trust these guy


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Did you pull the trigger on the primo? How you liking it so far compared to what you had?
 
Only product I’ve had issue with is latest batch/lot of Test E. More then PIP. Severe inflammation from 1/4cc injections (IM). Ran 3 other lots of their Test E no issues. Tried reaching out but they weren’t hearing it. Shit happens, switched to their Test C and all is back normal.
 
Rrozell said:
Only product I’ve had issue with is latest batch/lot of Test E. More then PIP. Severe inflammation from 1/4cc injections (IM). Ran 3 other lots of their Test E no issues. Tried reaching out but they weren’t hearing it. Shit happens, switched to their Test C and all is back normal.
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Who have you reached out to? I haven’t heard from you Sir. Also I haven’t heard thru the Team or from anyone else who is having this reaction the Test E? Has anything changed with your pins, locations, and frequency?
 
Rrozell said:
Only product I’ve had issue with is latest batch/lot of Test E. More then PIP. Severe inflammation from 1/4cc injections (IM). Ran 3 other lots of their Test E no issues. Tried reaching out but they weren’t hearing it. Shit happens, switched to their Test C and all is back normal.
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Who have you reached out to? I haven’t heard from you Sir. Also I haven’t heard thru the Team or from anyone else who is having this reaction from the Test E? Has anything changed with your pins, pin sites, and frequency?
 
I did not get it due to my other source coming back in stock at last minute but my close friend did and said he is enjoying it!


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And also the PIP issue if your are pinning quads and delts for the first time or dont pin them frequently your are gonna get hella pip , use the ventural glute it’s the cheat code


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KingoftheNorth14 said:
Who have you reached out to? I haven’t heard from you Sir. Also I haven’t heard thru the Team or from anyone else who is having this reaction from the Test E? Has anything changed with your pins, pin sites, and frequency?
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No change in protocol. Just new batch/lot. I liked their Test E so much I picked up 20 vials. Regretfully this issue has made them unusable. Tried 3 separate vials of new lot and all caused same issue. Been playing with gear for better part of 20 yrs so it’s not my first rodeo.

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Welp looks like there’s only one way to settle this. (Sigh) I guess I’ll sacrifice my body and take one for the team. Have the unsatisfied customer send the other 18 bottles to a 3rd party tester which ofcourse would be me. 😂
 
AR-15 said:
Welp looks like there’s only one way to settle this. (Sigh) I guess I’ll sacrifice my body and take one for the team. Have the unsatisfied customer send the other 18 bottles to a 3rd party tester which ofcourse would be me. 😂
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Shit man I entertained offering it to my buddies but honestly I can’t in good conscience do that to them. Something is seriously off with them. Never any other issues with H&B stuff; test C, NPP, EQ. Charge it to the game
 
Rrozell said:
Shit man I entertained offering it to my buddies but honestly I can’t in good conscience do that to them. Something is seriously off with them. Never any other issues with H&B stuff; test C, NPP, EQ. Charge it to the game
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Well if you bought 20 bad bottles of test then there’s gotta be more out there from that batch. Gotta be other complaints. I’m not doubting what you’re saying at all. Shit happens with every lab but I gotta admit you not pushing for a better resolution is kinda odd imo. That’s what $600 you’re willing to just throw away. At the very least I would have offered to send them all back for replacements. You said youve been in the game 20 years. I’m sure you’ve used Teat E before so it’s not like you’re personally having a reaction to it.
BTW I wasn’t joking earlier. I certainly wouldn’t take all of them but I’d be happy to try one of them. I’m not scared. Been using Auctus forever. I still wouldn’t lie. My only concern would be your somekind of psychopath and deliberately put poison in the vial with the oil. Next thing you know I’m giving reports of my hair falling out, my balls falling off, and how I grew a third head. Yeah……Nevermind. I’m gonna go mind my own business now……😩
 
AR-15 said:
Well if you bought 20 bad bottles of test then there’s gotta be more out there from that batch. Gotta be other complaints. I’m not doubting what you’re saying at all. Shit happens with every lab but I gotta admit you not pushing for a better resolution is kinda odd imo. That’s what $600 you’re willing to just throw away. At the very least I would have offered to send them all back for replacements. You said youve been in the game 20 years. I’m sure you’ve used Teat E before so it’s not like you’re personally having a reaction to it.
BTW I wasn’t joking earlier. I certainly wouldn’t take all of them but I’d be happy to try one of them. I’m not scared. Been using Auctus forever. I still wouldn’t lie. My only concern would be your somekind of psychopath and deliberately put poison in the vial with the oil. Next thing you know I’m giving reports of my hair falling out, my balls falling off, and how I grew a third head. Yeah……Nevermind. I’m gonna go mind my own business now……😩
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Come to think of it my hair is falling out 😝. No seriously after all these years you just have to accept that anything underground could be a lose. So I fully accept that I could potentially lose whatever funds I put towards these items. Sometimes you just come out on losing side. Beyond reaching out to them directly, which I did, there is not much more you can do. I won’t cry over $600
 
Rrozell said:
Come to think of it my hair is falling out 😝. No seriously after all these years you just have to accept that anything underground could be a lose. So I fully accept that I could potentially lose whatever funds I put towards these items. Sometimes you just come out on losing side. Beyond reaching out to them directly, which I did, there is not much more you can do. I won’t cry over $600
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Well it’s unfortunate and for experimental situations I will have to grab some on my next order and see for myself. Just have an extremely hard time thinking it’s a bad batch or the concentration. The batch I have is tested at 349mg/ml and I get zero oil from that.

H&B thanks you for your continued support even under the circumstances. If you need anything or some help feel free to pm me.
 
KingoftheNorth14 said:
Well it’s unfortunate and for experimental situations I will have to grab some on my next order and see for myself. Just have an extremely hard time thinking it’s a bad batch or the concentration. The batch I have is tested at 349mg/ml and I get zero oil from that.

H&B thanks you for your continued support even under the circumstances. If you need anything or some help feel free to pm me.
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Top notch. Can't complain about that reply. Most labs would get in a pissing match and chase you off the board.

No issues from the test e I received from H B, but I've definitely had some test orders fucked up. Not by any sponsors on this board. Years ago I once got tren sent but labeled as test. It was obvious real fast lol. Another time the injections fucked me up so bad I got sick and couldn't even lift or walk. Legs swelled like a balloon. Tossed those real quick. Shit can happen to any sponsor. Hell I just started HB primo last week and my ass was so sore it hurts to sit. 4 injections since an no issue. The issue was I didn't have my glute relaxed before that injection and apparently it got angry LOL. Happens from time to time especially when I'm in a hurry.
 
KingoftheNorth14 said:
Well it’s unfortunate and for experimental situations I will have to grab some on my next order and see for myself. Just have an extremely hard time thinking it’s a bad batch or the concentration. The batch I have is tested at 349mg/ml and I get zero oil from that.

H&B thanks you for your continued support even under the circumstances. If you need anything or some help feel free to pm me.
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Feel free to let me know your results. I agree it’s odd as previous lots had no adverse effects (obviously or I wouldn’t have invested in 20 vials). If I’m a one off then that’s good for everyone else. Maybe it’s as simple as a change in BB or BA that’s causing me to have such a negative reaction.
 
Rrozell said:
Feel free to let me know your results. I agree it’s odd as previous lots had no adverse effects (obviously or I wouldn’t have invested in 20 vials). If I’m a one off then that’s good for everyone else. Maybe it’s as simple as a change in BB or BA that’s causing me to have such a negative reaction.
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This was an unfortunate situation for everyone.
Test e often causes pip in many users, even at lower concentrations. If there had been multiple complaints on that batch, we would have absolutely made accomodations to our customers. We have had no other complaints with that test enan batch from Auctus.
Please also understand, and this is NOT in anyway an accusation, but sponsors are often targets for reverse scams, esp on larger orders.
We do not believe you are being deceptive in anyway, the owners were given all the details, and it was their call.
Based on the facts:
HPLC tested batch, no other complaints, ... their only conclusion was, as pip is, issue subjective to the users, the concentration, the solvent level/type etc... they found no fault by the manufacturer or our company based on those factors. Its our #2 top-seller behind Test Cyp and has been, batch after batch, year in, year out.
So again, its unfortunate, but not anything we or the manufaturer did wrong. Auctus produces LARGE batches (1,000s of units) if the gear itself was the issue, there would have been more than 1 isolated complaint.

We appreciate your honesty, your honest review, even when that one experience was less than satisfactory.

Test enan, esp over-dosed, is not going to be a smooth injection for every user, and we regret that you had this issue.

Thank you for being fair and honest in all your communications sir. ❤️🫡
 
Jw3man said:
Top notch. Can't complain about that reply. Most labs would get in a pissing match and chase you off the board.

No issues from the test e I received from H B, but I've definitely had some test orders fucked up. Not by any sponsors on this board. Years ago I once got tren sent but labeled as test. It was obvious real fast lol. Another time the injections fucked me up so bad I got sick and couldn't even lift or walk. Legs swelled like a balloon. Tossed those real quick. Shit can happen to any sponsor. Hell I just started HB primo last week and my ass was so sore it hurts to sit. 4 injections since an no issue. The issue was I didn't have my glute relaxed before that injection and apparently it got angry LOL. Happens from time to time especially when I'm in a hurry.
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Thank you for the reply and thanks for sharing your experience. I’ve never used a Prino 200 that didn’t put me in knots when injected on its own…until I used Auctus Primo 200 from H&B. I learned a long time ago to mix the Primo 200 with some Test E or C, Mast E, or Primo 100 so I mixed it instinctively my first few shots then I said fuck it and went for a straight shot and I was amazed that I didn’t get any pip from it. Even the Test 400 is minimal. It bites for a minute or 2 after injection then 24hrs later I may have a slight pip but nothing crazy.

Thanks again brother! H&B appreciates your support!
 

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