Fuck me I'm STERILE

[bigshow]

Great news bro! Get it fixed ASAP and fill her up!!! lol

 

[McDouche]

So last I had a phone consultation with a specilist last night. He asked about I had used testosterone, and I slightly lied and said 6 months ago, when in actuality is 3 months pct +2 months off)
he looked at my chart and saw my test lelevels were 502, everything else tracking good. I the asked a bunch of lifestyle questions: do I drink, smoke, spend excessive time In a hot tub, ride distance biking. All no.

He then asked if on myleff testicle were very pronounced veins... Almost like a ba of worm. I said, yes they are. He told me with a high level of certainty that most likely I have was what's called a "vericole seal" which is basically the Vains in the testticles being too fillies with blood causing the testticle ebvironment to be too warm to produce motile sperm (My count isn't the issue).

he said thi probably has nothing to do with gear use,gear use or not the sack Is too hot for motile perm. He aid the Issue is and can be fixed rather easily. My hopes are higher ! But I still need mor tests and to see if it will be the solution, the condition effects 1/10 men, and is the cause of %30 of couples havering conception issues.
80,0000-1000,000 Americans have this process den every year.

So for now, the .45 is out of my mouth, back in the nightstand where it belongs and I'm feeling much more optomotic !!!

thank you all for the well wishes and positivity

Awesome news brother on so many levels.

I've never heard of that, and it's nice to be informed.

 

[the_predator]

Holy Shit! Sorry I missed this. I have been in your boat for 8 years now. We were blessed with one child who will turn 9 this December. Since then, it's been a battle. I have cycled on and off for close to 15 years with probably the first 10 or so years cycling wrong with no pct or just bridging then stopping. I was an uneducated idiot. I have no normal looking sperm, only 31% progressive motility, and only 10 million sperm count. Most reproductive docs want at least 40% motility, and 30-40 million sperm count for them to even consider in vitro. With my "no normal sperm", there was really nothing more that could be done. I have tried clomid, hcg, HMG and even got varococele surgery. I have given so much blood and filled so many sperm cups I could probably fill a pool with both lol. You have only been off for a few months and have only been trying for a baby how long? LISTEN, my point is, don't throw in the towel after a few months! Get the surgery, see happens, and go from there. God forbid you get to 7-8 years, then you can think about giving up. But listen, you are going to get this surgery and MAKE BABIES. I will be praying for you brother!

 

[72allday]

Great news!!!!!!!! Glad to here some positivity has come ur way..

 

[Bigcat910]

The wife and i were having trouble concieving for a while . Had sperm checked and 45 million swimmers, ok motility and this was all pre trt . Took some time but managed to get it done about a year of trying and we had a boy. 3 years later on trt and heavy blasting knocked her up again. Shes about 6 months now . Just saying I had the the same vericose vein and my doc tried to sell me on the surgery saying it may have been inhibiting my sperm even with a high count and good motility . If i were u i would shop for a second opinion as docs now a days seem to see $$$ before anything else and tend to try to capitalize on others fears/problems.

In all honesty id look into hcg and some proviron as it has a huge effect on sperm production and the proviron just supercharges motility. Check it out pretty sure theres a pubmed study on it .

 

[CAhardcore]

So for anyone who was curious in this thread, here is the update:
i have a grade 3 vericolce on the left and a grade 2 on the right. I'm having surgery to repair those tomorrow morning. (Grade 3 is the worst, grade 1 is the least severe. My surgeon has done 600 and he said mine is top 10 most severe he has seen. My LH , FSH , test, Estro, and thyroid are all in the "normal" range

the good news: fixing the vericocles has the possibility of increasing sperm motality and forward progression by 80%.
It can increase testosterone production by 100 points
The co-pay for the surgery is $5
the bad news: my total sperm count is 100,000. That's very very low and totally sucks balls for the chance of conception
I'm having fucking surgery in my fucking ball sack!
No heavy lifting for 4 weeks
the strange news: my prolactin is LOW, which he has never seen and is unsure if LOW prolactin would hurt fertility, it's usually the opposite. So, I'm seeing an endo about that.

the forecast: hopefully the vericocele fixes the motility issue and increase test which can't hurt. Will have to wait 4 months for another semen analysis to see if the count improves. If not, he may treat with clomid , hcg, or hmg.

the bottom line: I'm fucking depressed. Why can't I just normally knock my wife up? Feeling super low. About to hit the gym for the final time before surgery ... Hopefully I don't loose too much muscle and gain too much bf during the recovery.

the chances if natural conception are all up in the air... Just so many question marks.
Who knows if I'll ever cycle again, which of course I want to, and who knows if I'll be able to have a family... I can't wrap my mind around a sperm donor , and IVF is just so damn expensive . I am in a very strange cross road in my life

 

[Sheriv]

dont stress about ballsack surgery, my hubsa had it and it really was cake. No scar either
..good luck meng

 

[CAhardcore]

Thanks sher... Still just a low feeling situation

 

[heavyiron]

Just be glad they can fix this. 50 years ago you would be out of luck brother.

Hope the procedure goes well for you.

 

[Guillotine]

Good luck, man!

 

[theestone]

Very interested.
Good luck brother.
Fuck cycles, if you want a family, do it.

Gear will always be there when your ready

 

[72allday]

Gd luck man! Don't be too down on yourself right now. Gd things are coming your way...


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[johnjohn]

Good luck bro

 

[colochine]

2 months since pct.
sperm count isn't the issue.. Sperm not swimming in the right direction is.
She wants kids so bad, I don't know if we can afford IV.... She might fucking leave me
im fucking down hard now

Their little sperm tails are too jacked to swim?

 

[theestone]

Their little sperm tails are too jacked to swim?

The damn sperm are "muscle bound"

 

[CAhardcore]

Surgery update:

Vericocle on both sides fixed. General antetsia plus a local kept me feeling ok yesterday... Today I'm pretty sore, waliking or standing not so bad , but getting up and down hurts like a mo fo.

The Percocet does little to dull the aches ...

The surgeons post operation report was that he fixed everything that he need to fix ... Which was a lot , but that rand the more fixing required the more room for improvement

He also started me on clomid 50mg m/w/f ... Until some retest.

So for now, my Guns out of my mouth, I have some hope, just feeling sore and itching to get back in the gym. Gotta play it day by day and see how the ole nether regions heal up.

Hope and pray for a healthy baby

 

[Guillotine]

Surgery update:

Vericocle on both sides fixed. General antetsia plus a local kept me feeling ok yesterday... Today I'm pretty sore, waliking or standing not so bad , but getting up and down hurts like a mo fo.

The Percocet does little to dull the aches ...

The surgeons post operation report was that he fixed everything that he need to fix ... Which was a lot , but that rand the more fixing required the more room for improvement

He also started me on clomid 50mg m/w/f ... Until some retest.

So for now, my Guns out of my mouth, I have some hope, just feeling sore and itching to get back in the gym. Gotta play it day by day and see how the ole nether regions heal up.

Hope and pray for a healthy baby

Great to hear man! Take your time with the recovery - you don't want to have a 2nd IP to fix the first one. Lol

 

[CAhardcore]

Yeah.. When the ice pack is on the lap, and the pain killers going, getting up and down from the sofa does not feel too good. Walking in a straight line is ok ...
I hope y'all never have to have a breathing tube shoved down your throat and sack operated on , but thanks to
Modern medicine we have hope to have a real family

 

[nwguy]

Glad surgery went ok brother. Get some rest and let's see a baby!!

 

[bigshow]

Glad all went well brother, you will be back pumping iron in no time

 

[independent]

A breathing tube for such a small surgery? Ive had 2 hernias done and never got a breathing tube.

 

[CAhardcore]

A breathing tube for such a small surgery? Ive had 2 hernias done and never got a breathing tube.

Yeah full general anesthesia , breathing tube and all!!

 

[chocolatemalt]

Yeah full general anesthesia , breathing tube and all!!

Was this doc in his 50's or 60's?

 

[CAhardcore]

Was this doc in his 50's or 60's?

No younger guy, leader in the filed. Bunch of peer reviewed publications

 

[CAhardcore]

I'm 32, male, 6'1, 250, leanish...
I have run about 5 cycles, with pct & time off. My BP is good, cholesterol good, sugars good.


I'm recovering from having a grade 3 vericocle on my left testicle fixed, and a grade 2 on my right fixed. Not a fun surgery at all. My motile sperm was almost zero, my count was low ( which I expected because my last cycle was about 3 months prior to the surgery) . My test was 500, and LH/FSH was in the normal range. I did not disclose my steroid use to the surgeon, because based on bloods and physical examination (normal testicle size) the only evidence steroid use was my muscularity, so I felt best to leave my chemical enhancement out of the equation , since he was very confident that my lack of motile sperm was clearly based on the severe vericocels.


Anyhow, my recovery is coming along well... Most of the swelling and pain is gone. Bruising is gone and the incisions are all healed.


The doctor has me on clomid 50mg m/w/f with the goal of enhancing sperm count and motility (he added "a little extra bump in your testosterone won't hurt either ", as well as l-caratine l-arginine and another few OTC motility boosters. I will not be taking any AAS until we conceive (hopefully)
My question is should I stick to the clomid m/w/f or just go EOD? EOD seems to make more sense to me....
Thanks

 

[nwguy]

I don't think any of us on this board are in a position to tell you that man. I would stick with what the doctor says. You yourself said it, he's one of the best in the field. There's a lot of knowledge here but I highly doubt we could be smarter than that doctor when it comes to getting the boys swimming again.

Glad to hear surgery went well. Hopefully soon we will be seeing a post of SHES PREGNANT!!

 

[CAhardcore]

Thanks for the input... I have tons of good clomid on hand, plus the script.... I'm sorta thinking "what's a little extra 50mg a week gonna hurt ?!" Lol

 

[Guillotine]

Glad to hear the op went well. Doing EOD will screw with any bloodwork he does on you, and how will you explain not running out of script early?

 

[CAhardcore]

Glad to hear the op went well. Doing EOD will screw with any bloodwork he does on you, and how will you explain not running out of script early?

I have plenty of extra clomid on hand, so the script won't run out early .and would eod vs m/w/f really skew the bloods that much ? It's easier mentally to to eod than m/w/f too

 

[Guillotine]

I have plenty of extra clomid on hand, so the script won't run out early .and would eod vs m/w/f really skew the bloods that much ? It's easier mentally to to eod than m/w/f too

I was thinking if he wants you to test on a Tuesday, but that was pin day b/c eod makes each week alternate, your results would skew.