Fuck me I'm STERILE

[McDouche]

You can always try doing her upside down and letting gravity do the work. It probably won't work but you'll feel better afterwards.

Jokes aside - I haven't heard of things that improve the motility. just count. I would do some research, maybe see if you can get a consultation from a doc that specializes in this. I really do feel for you bro and pray this isn't me in a few years.

 

[Gs442]

Yeah,... I'm unloading all the guns in the house and putting the ammo in a locked shed.

Lol good idea

 

[JRotten]

Best advice yet 10K is NOTHING compared to what they end up costing
And like SheriV said, cant hurt to try switching insurance.
But not time to give up just yet!!!!

14.5k a year for 14 years if you divorce their mom. Plus the $89 for next week's karate tournament because it's your weekend.

 

[Burrfoot1313]

I'm sorry to hear this...I'm sure it's hard. Keep your head up man. If she really loves you, she won't leave you. Through thick and thin man.


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[BigTime]

"Natural impregnation". Can't just get it done in a lab?

This. My uncle did.

 

[HFO3]

14.5k a year for 14 years if you divorce their mom. Plus the $89 for next week's karate tournament because it's your weekend.

Or the judge sides in your favor and she never pays a dime


Don't lose hope CAhardcore miracles happen all the time.

 

[CAhardcore]

This. My uncle did.[/QUOTE

How much did that cost him?

 

[Sheriv]

Or the judge sides in your favor and she never pays a dime

I have two bro-friends that deal with this




lemme drag out something out of the attic about it..I think I saw something in a book I have about sperm motility
that will appeal to her midwife ways...

 

[CAhardcore]

Or the judge sides in your favor and she never pays a dime

I have that going for me ... Paper trial to prove it, but it's the last thing I would want to have happen

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I have two bro-friends that deal with this




lemme drag out something out of the attic about it..I think I saw something in a book I have about sperm motility
that will appeal to her midwife ways...

This would be much appreciated

 

[Dieseljimmy]

I went to get snipped and got tested and the doc saids... "well there's no need to... you have low sperm and no mobility"
which for me in this case was not the worst news... after all I was going to get snipped.

One thing I'm pretty sure of... all things find a balance. I bet of given enough time your mobility will return to a acceptable level. Give it some time off and retest

 

[CAhardcore]

I went to get snipped and got tested and the doc saids... "well there's no need to... you have low sperm and no mobility"
which for me in this case was not the worst news... after all I was going to get snipped.

One thing I'm pretty sure of... all things find a balance. I bet of given enough time your mobility will return to a acceptable level. Give it some time off and retest

Glad you didn't have to get snipped...
My wives 32, her baby fever is full blown... I'm getting "do you know what birrh outcomes are like for women of advanced maternal age ?!l"

Waiting a while isn't a card to play.
In fact I have no cards to play !

 

[Sheriv]

god when the jack went and got snipped it was like he was ready to populate a third world country but he had been off everything for over a yr by that point

I had my fourth baby at 34 ..you have some time
aside from a dislocated hip which was related to wear and tear and an accident..and some scary delivery hemorrhaging..which is a thyroid thing believe it or not
there were no complications...

if that sounds insensitive its not meant to be...this isn't the end of the world its just a little hiccup and a little more work

 

[chocolatemalt]

If $10,000 is out of the question for IVF, I'm thinking having a kid is gonna be too expensive too.

Also (you probably won't like this) if you're ok with a paternity-unknown scenario, take her to a sex club and let her go at it with a bunch of guys without condoms. That avoids the IVF hassle and cost.

 

[CAhardcore]

^^^^ that's probably not gonna work

 

[Gs442]

Yeah she could bring home something that could last longer then parent hood like the HIV and stuff

 

[Dieseljimmy]

Glad you didn't have to get snipped...
My wives 32, her baby fever is full blown... I'm getting "do you know what birrh outcomes are like for women of advanced maternal age ?!l"

Waiting a while isn't a card to play.
In fact I have no cards to play !

just six months of trying... could be alot worse. fuck the mobilty back into those swimmers.
seriously tho nature finds its own level. give it some time.

If $10,000 is out of the question for IVF, I'm thinking having a kid is gonna be too expensive too.

Also (you probably won't like this) if you're ok with a paternity-unknown scenario, take her to a sex club and let her go at it with a bunch of guys without condoms. That avoids the IVF hassle and cost.

^^^^ that's probably not gonna work

I would volunteer... but I already showed my cards... GDI

Yeah she could bring home something that could last longer then parent hood like the HIV and stuff

Mr. fucking positivity! LOLZ

 

[Guillotine]

My chick has a friend whose husband wanted a kid. They tried 2yrs, nothing. Got checked out, everything perfect. The chick has a 15yr old, so not her. They did IUI treatment. Was like $5k

She is now 6mo pregnant

 

[heavyiron]

Get more testing and more opinions. I would not believe anything until you are clean for over 6 months.

 

[bigshow]

Bro see a fertility specialist they will do extensive tests and better help you. All research heavily online and see what could possibly help. Try a clomid restart again and retest see if that helps.

Here's a little link I found hopefully it helps

http://www.urologyweb.com/male-infertility/

 

[john4890]

2 months since pct.
sperm count isn't the issue.. Sperm not swimming in the right direction is.
She wants kids so bad, I don't know if we can afford IV.... She might fucking leave me
im fucking down hard now

Dam thats fucked up man, Im sorry to hear this. I hope everything works out for you and you get your sperm swimming the right way.

 

[independent]

Get more testing and more opinions. I would not believe anything until you are clean for over 6 months.

This^^^^ Also run another agressive pct, clomid,hcg and hmg. Cant hurt. Give it time.

 

[Sheriv]

alright man..I cant even find the book in the attic

I vaguely remember a product creepily called "seed" but I don't know that it will help with poor achieving swimmers
it only makes cervical mucous a little less hostile

but so does a strong decongestant (srsly)

 

[Skinnyguy180]

This fucking sucks... I've done everything the right way, moderate cycles, pct, time off....and now I get the news from the Doc "you have zero sperm that swim forward (motility) making natural impregnation highly unlikely"
motherfuck.... My wife who Is the most amazing person wants a child so bad, and she is very "natural" centered.
Im fucked... I don't know what to say to her, she's gonna blame it on the gear no doubt.
I feel like my world just got turned upside down.
i knew the risks when I started.... So I guess I made my bed and I'll have to lie in it.

Not the end of the world man..... I have been through it and now have three kids. you will have to get off gears and likely start with clomid then go to HCG and then possibly HCG and HMG. Hope is not lost.


Oh and she is going to blame the gears and she is likely going to be right.

Btw you have kaiser too HAHAHAH

 

[malfeasance]

This fucking sucks... I've done everything the right way, moderate cycles, pct, time off....and now I get the news from the Doc "you have zero sperm that swim forward (motility) making natural impregnation highly unlikely"
motherfuck.... My wife who Is the most amazing person wants a child so bad, and she is very "natural" centered.
Im fucked... I don't know what to say to her, she's gonna blame it on the gear no doubt.
I feel like my world just got turned upside down.
i knew the risks when I started.... So I guess I made my bed and I'll have to lie in it.

CAhardcore, serious question here. How long have you been off gear before this testing?

 

[Dema]

This^^^^ Also run another agressive pct, clomid,hcg and hmg. Cant hurt. Give it time.

CAhardcore, serious question here. How long have you been off gear before this testing?

i believe he stated 2 months in a previous post

 

[malfeasance]

I ask because I read a bunch of studies on steroids and fertility, and a major issue was motility. Time away from gear restored motility in most of the subjects. Time away was like a year to 18 months, and, for a minority, two to three years.

 

[malfeasance]

i believe he stated 2 months in a previous post

Ok, I missed that.

OP - Holy crap, it is WAY too early for you to give up hope. WAY too early. Stay off the gear and give it some time. I am not even sure I would discuss the test results with the wife if that discussion is not absolutely necessary at this point in time.

This is a self-resolving issue most of the time.

Get off this board, Google steroids and fertility, and read the studies. I designed a PCT just for fertility recently based on what found, and it did not look much like what is recommended here. Spend 8-10 hours reading. Take a break. Sleep on it. Spend another 8-10 hours reading.

More than likely, time will fix this all by itself.

Do not give up hope.

Your body is, every day, trying to restore itself. It is VERY doubtful that you have fucked it up beyond all hope of recovery, especially at your age. Just give your body time to heal.

 

[CAhardcore]

Update

Ok, I missed that.

OP - Holy crap, it is WAY too early for you to give up hope. WAY too early. Stay off the gear and give it some time. I am not even sure I would discuss the test results with the wife if that discussion is not absolutely necessary at this point in time.

This is a self-resolving issue most of the time.

Get off this board, Google steroids and fertility, and read the studies. I designed a PCT just for fertility recently based on what found, and it did not look much like what is recommended here. Spend 8-10 hours reading. Take a break. Sleep on it. Spend another 8-10 hours reading.

More than likely, time will fix this all by itself.

Do not give up hope.

Your body is, every day, trying to restore itself. It is VERY doubtful that you have fucked it up beyond all hope of recovery, especially at your age. Just give your body time to heal.

So last I had a phone consultation with a specilist last night. He asked about I had used testosterone, and I slightly lied and said 6 months ago, when in actuality is 3 months pct +2 months off)
he looked at my chart and saw my test lelevels were 502, everything else tracking good. I the asked a bunch of lifestyle questions: do I drink, smoke, spend excessive time In a hot tub, ride distance biking. All no.

He then asked if on myleff testicle were very pronounced veins... Almost like a ba of worm. I said, yes they are. He told me with a high level of certainty that most likely I have was what's called a "vericole seal" which is basically the Vains in the testticles being too fillies with blood causing the testticle ebvironment to be too warm to produce motile sperm (My count isn't the issue).

he said thi probably has nothing to do with gear use,gear use or not the sack Is too hot for motile perm. He aid the Issue is and can be fixed rather easily. My hopes are higher ! But I still need mor tests and to see if it will be the solution, the condition effects 1/10 men, and is the cause of %30 of couples havering conception issues.
80,0000-1000,000 Americans have this process den every year.

So for now, the .45 is out of my mouth, back in the nightstand where it belongs and I'm feeling much more optomotic !!!

thank you all for the well wishes and positivity

 

[TripleOvertime]

Great news man, hope it is that simple for you and everything starts "flowing" right.

 

[psychowhite]

Good luck brother. I hope it turns out that easy for you. A lot better than some of the other more expensive treatments.

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