dianabol and adderall

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Is it safe to take 6 weeks dianabol 30mg every day with adderall 15-20mg every other day? I really like stimulants and I got some DMAA 1,3-dimethylamylamine and wanted to know if i could take it with dianabol?
Im using 600mg/wk testosterone propionate for 12 wk. What is the effect of adderall and testosterone? Also Is it safe for liver to process both adderall and dianabol?
 

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Skip the Adderall unless you just want to get high.

It's only place in the AAS game is at powerlifting or strongman meets.



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I took adderrall with AAS and experienced no benefit but no bad side effects either.

The amount your suggesting is low but if you are really trying to treat ADD going EOD is useless.

If you just need energy, stick to coffee or ECA. I felt very tired later in the day after the adderall wore off.
 

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Could create some BP issues. Like warrior said, it has it's niches. I loved it for football but that was just me, err and a lot of teammates lol
 

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Oh yeah but as smokey and warrior said, it's not going to factor in gains, forgot to reiterate that.
 

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Oh yeah but as smokey and warrior said, it's not going to factor in gains, forgot to reiterate that.

I found it useless for anything. I still have a full bottle unused. My doc also req'd that I visit him monthly
when I was on it. told him to go fuck himself
 

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The combination of the two would be one he'll of a strain on the liver. I wouldn't run both together. If you like stimulates try TNE. You will be throwing rocks at adderrall.
 

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The combination of the two would be one he'll of a strain on the liver. I wouldn't run both together. If you like stimulates try TNE. You will be throwing rocks at adderrall.

Excuse my ignorance and laziness to not do a search, but what TNE? Is it script? Supp? How's it work?
 

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I found it useless for anything. I still have a full bottle unused. My doc also req'd that I visit him monthly
when I was on it. told him to go fuck himself


Yeah, it required monthly visit initially. It was great for football bro I swear
 

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Excuse my ignorance and laziness to not do a search, but what TNE? Is it script? Supp? How's it work?

TNE = test no ester

It's pure testosterone base. Kicks in about 60mins after you pin it and lasts for 5-6 hours.

Guys use it for a preworkout on heavy days or for some extra fire in the bedroom.

I love the stuff. Standard dose is 100mg preworkout. I take 150mg.


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TNE is Test No Ester. It has no Ester attached for transport so it hits you like a ton of bricks. I use it for bulking cycles on extreme heavy days. It works best for me if I take it 2 hours prior to workout. It lasts about 5 hours. I love it. Hands down best pre workout I have ever tried.
 

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I just want to know if it affects testosterone in a negative way. Has anyone had experience or knows research showing this? I don't care about personal experiences. It works very good for me. It helps me train twice as hard.
 

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I just want to know if it affects testosterone in a negative way. Has anyone had experience or knows research showing this? I don't care about personal experiences. It works very good for me. It helps me train twice as hard.

look it up yourself, douche bag. I don't care about your personal experiences either.
 

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look it up yourself, douche bag. I don't care about your personal experiences either.

Thanks man but its kind of hard to find research done on these two substances. I was trying to see if anyone could help point me in the right direction. Ive been searching for the affects of stimulants and testosterone but nothing was concluded. I thought maybe someone on this forum would know how it affects there testosterone levels if they were getting blood works done consistently. I just wanted to know if someone who got regular blood work done would have noticed the affects of caffeine on their testosterone levels.
 

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I would not recommend you taking amphetamines with anabolics. You can also try dieting and cardio. Having a six pack is not so simple so you have to work hard with full dedication.
 

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I still do not know if or how amphetamines interfere with testosterone production. Please let me know backed by facts or research
 

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I still do not know if or how amphetamines interfere with testosterone production. Please let me know backed by facts or research

You said you were pinning gears. Gears will interfere with test production.

I would suggest you do you're own research rather than look for validation here.
 

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Wow this thread went a bit crazy, though dbol and Adderal was the subject, I just kind of high jacked it when TNE was mentioned. Is this another term form aqueous test suspension, bc I love that stuf to death. Or is it even less bonded. If we want to talk about it here, we can, but I will probably start a thread. This one is going no where.
 

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im an idiot. I keep forgetting what i was asking in the first place. but im stacking with test p 600mg. wk.
Anyways, first i wanted to know the toxicity of d bol + adderall on liver. then i thought i was asking if amphetamines reduce testosterone.
Either way I found a bunch of articles im going to have to read. sigh.... time to take more adderall got lots of reading to do.
 

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I still do not know if or how amphetamines interfere with testosterone production. Please let me know backed by facts or research


First to be fair, I will answer your specific question. And it's a 10-4 bro, sure will lower test. I am not going too retype what you need to learn to find yourself if you like drugs of any kind for any reason.

Amphetamines lower testosterone by increasing cAMP in the local testicle tissue. You can google amphetamine and testosterone or search Pubmed. I haven't used Adderall but both Vyvanse and Dexedrine first increased my libido(35 yo male) then lowered it to nothing. This is also what Stephen Stahl says happens in Essential Psychopharmacology: the Prescriber's Guide. Men who experience a drop in libido on amphetamine would benefit from HCG and/or testosterone supplementation. Also keep the amp dosage to as low as possible, even to once every other day.


If you want greater detail then that, take some med school classes. But yes, your need to chemically alter your brain will adversely affect your need to chemically alter your body. Sorry. And now, in payment for me answering a question we really shouldn't, you get a lecture. Read it bro, and respond in an honest, fairly lengthy manner showing maybe you can listen. Otherwise, I for one will be done with you.

I am trying not to be a dick to you, but honestly I don't even like your initial post being up... Yes, I openly said I used Adderal for PE in college football. This is a PE forum. But you basically said, hey I scored some Stims I want to abuse recreationally and I'm wondering how it will affect my test levels. I'd really appreciate if you edit that part of your original post bro. Don't want people reading it and getting false impression of what this board is about.

You may ask, using on a field or out with my friends, what's the difference?


Athletes use drugs for ends... Not for fun. I remember post game if I had reupped at halftime I would just stand in the shower wanting it to stop. When I think Adderal I think focus, confidence, enhanced hand eye coord. The part you like I considered a side effect. It may sound like a double standard, but this is a PED forum. I used it for PE! You want to get fucked up with it! That's where I get off telling you you have a problem when in the same breath saying I used them. I used the minimal amount to peak performance while desperately avoiding at all costs the intoxication you seek.

And it's no joke. Quite addictive and can greatly affect mood and exacerbate depression which is rampant among drug abusers. You got a cold reception bc I suspect ( well basically I know bc you said it in the first post unless you edited i hope) you abuse drugs for recreation, and we don't get down like that here. Steroid users are not drug users... That's not denial it's honesty and fact. Nothing about how they use it, get it, how it affects them, their lives , their family even remotely resembles what is a pretty consistent picture with other drug users.

Just don't come here to further what is or soon will be a recreational drug problem then addiction. You already show signs... Ignoring endless negative feedback bc all you want is to know so you can use. And how's your appetite of Adderal for rec? Do you sleep much? You are abandoning your lifting goals just cuz you scored some uppers. Take a step back, do the right thing. I hope with all my heart you do. But if you don't, stay the fuck off our boards with any recreational drug. If you want that road, I really don't care what happens to you, just have it happen elsewhere.
 

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im an idiot. I keep forgetting what i was asking in the first place. but im stacking with test p 600mg. wk.
Anyways, first i wanted to know the toxicity of d bol + adderall on liver. then i thought i was asking if amphetamines reduce testosterone.
Either way I found a bunch of articles im going to have to read. sigh.... time to take more adderall got lots of reading to do.

PmYeah god, your most pathetic post yet. I hope you hadn't read my post and then had ^^^ to say. I read 12 hours a day 5-6 days a week for several years. Didn't need a drug for it. Since I'm getting the picture you really don't care, I am kind of enjoying giving you the bad news. And I never get mad with anyone on here...

First, like I said, scientific, medical fact, amphetimines, specifically Adderal, lowers test levels.

Second piece of good news... All amps are hepatotoxic. Adderall more then most. So enjoy crushing your liver.

Third, I'm sure you will max those gains not eating , sleeping, or doing much of anything productive.

Wht a waste. There are boards for rec drug users. Tons. Go to them. You aren't a BB, at least not from what I'm hearing. Leave us in peace dude.
 

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Phentermine is a common weight loss drug, it's an amphetamine

Very true, but there are a wide range of amphetimines. But as you pointed out in a later post, Adderal is closer to a typical amphetimine and definitely is super addictive. They only difference between /other safe bc they are prescribed amphs and methamphetamine is a methyl group essentially. The methyl group allows meth to cross your blood brain barrier way more efficiently account for its rush, extreme mental effects and horrible addiction. But Adderal addiction is very real
 

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Well I guess im gonna put my 2cents in..... amphetamines and steroids sounds like and is a train wreck.. seems like you are hung up on the addys bro and hoping someone is going to tell you that its a good idea to mix them and one doesnt effect the other.. lets look at this close you needblots of rest and food when on a cycle and thats the two things that addys effect... and if you really have to have them for add, adhd which I seriously doubt talk to you doc about non stimulant meds.. addiction is nasty ugly thing so do yourself a favor drop the addys
 

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Well I guess im gonna put my 2cents in..... amphetamines and steroids sounds like and is a train wreck.. seems like you are hung up on the addys bro and hoping someone is going to tell you that its a good idea to mix them and one doesnt effect the other.. lets look at this close you needblots of rest and food when on a cycle and thats the two things that addys effect... and if you really have to have them for add, adhd which I seriously doubt talk to you doc about non stimulant meds.. addiction is nasty ugly thing so do yourself a favor drop the addys


You nailed it. Adderal has PED use, way more so for mainstream sports where it's not about just gains or power. But the points, Adderal to me was no different then a dbol pill or a clomid tablet. I took it at a specific time for a specific reason and never to my detriment. Best way to demonstrate the diff, is I got major benefits from Addy in football. Night and day. But if I even suspected it was suppressing my test, I'd drop it, questions asked. This guy is getting nothing beside a buz from the stim he got but he is bound and determined to use it.

As Xzhibit said, "That's the difference between me and you."
 

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Alot of good statements from the brothers here!I really love everything you said top him LIHL.I have what they call ADHD I guess but I beleive all the shit we have is from additives,preservatives etc.. Imagine having 10 or 20 thoughts running through your head at one time while you are trying to hold a conversation and focus on the now,LOL not easy! The Dr. put me on adderall, good thing I don't have an addictive personality because I stopped cold turkey as it seems to work at first but the addictiveness of it is that you need more and more to get the same feeling from dopamine.Won't go into the article I read while researching after Dr put me on it but I know I didn't like the feeling after about a month. I will deal with my condition and the bodybuilding lifestyle helps as exercise is an antidepresant among other things in itself! The days I can hit the gym I feel great, Lifting is a natural high in itself!!!!Just like the runners high you hear about and the guys on here like me that used to run distance, the euphoria or runners high was such a natural addiction!!!!!



You nailed it. Adderal has PED use, way more so for mainstream sports where it's not about just gains or power. But the points, Adderal to me was no different then a dbol pill or a clomid tablet. I took it at a specific time for a specific reason and never to my detriment. Best way to demonstrate the diff, is I got major benefits from Addy in football. Night and day. But if I even suspected it was suppressing my test, I'd drop it, questions asked. This guy is getting nothing beside a buz from the stim he got but he is bound and determined to use it.

As Xzhibit said, "That's the difference between me and you."
 

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Im not an addict. I only take it when I need it. I do have add. The only time I need it is studying. Ill take 5mg and see if it works and keep going +5 untill i can focus better. Never take more than 20mg a day and at most ill take 70mg for the week.
 
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