Debate #6...DHB...

[CompoundLifts31]

I disagree...with respect...
Some compounds don't require a Base...
Tren is One..
Z...

So a 19- nor won't crash your testosterone levels?

I know it can be done as I've seen it done. Saying it isn't necessary is much different from me saying it isn't smart or advised.

You could use as little as 50mgs test cyp or e and keep your test levels decent. Why would you go out of your way to crash test levels, especially when test is so damn cheap!!

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[Deeman]

Super stoaked. Damn phone.

 

[Papasmurf]

Brother you're an absolute beast

What's your routine like for your chest?
You're phenomenal cross-sectional development.. what do you do for upper chest?

Thank you for the kind words brother! It’s nice to hear from others that share the same passion.

Years ago I would do certain exercises, sets and reps and track everything. Honestly now I just do what I feel like doing that day and chase the pump. I mix it up from light weight to heavy and high and low reps. Mainly work different angles of incline and throw in some flat or decline from time to time. And of course hit the cables at all angles.

 

[Papasmurf]

Papa Smurf really works out... Noted

If that's fat, your boy is obese!!

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Yes sir, I lift a little🤣

First pic I’ve posted.

I always feel like I’m a little fluffy, but that’s the look I prefer most of the time. Going to make a go at going low bf one of these days just to see 👍

 

[Vision]

Yes sir, I lift a little🤣

First pic I’ve posted.

I always feel like I’m a little fluffy, but that’s the look I prefer most of the time. Going to make a go at going low bf one of these days just to see 👍

Man I'm right there with you with staying in the low double digits.
Staying a bit more full is where I feel my best, clothing fits better that way too lol.
Plus you can kind of eat just about whatever you want to a degree. And pumps always feel better and after a good session you can look full as a house like someone just injected your delts with 15 PSI both sides 😂

 

[Papasmurf]

Man I'm right there with you with staying in the low double digits.
Staying a bit more full is where I feel my best, clothing fits better that way too lol.
Plus you can kind of eat just about whatever you want to a degree. And pumps always feel better and after a good session you can look full as a house like someone just injected your delts with 15 PSI both sides 😂

The pumps are always great! Just want to hit that low bf at least once so I can look like @Wiseguy 🤣
Brother is ripped constantly!!

 

[that0lred]

I have seen a lot of feedback regarding PSL's DHB.. it's one of our best sellers.
When we first offered it I had my reservations because of the pip reputation.
How many mgs did you do?

Pinning it alone I only did 1cc (100mg) if memory serves right.
But I've ran it at 1:1 with test (1cc : 1cc)
While running it I done 150mg mwf with my test.
1.5cc dhb (150mg) / 1cc test (250mg)
And never got pip from any of those.
The one time I did get it was from straight dhb 1.5cc into delt. But that was my own stupidity
The kind of stupidity that lingered for a week

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[Wiseguy]

A little fluffy right now but getting bigger and stronger. Yes, for those that chime in, I’m a little fat right now🤣

Looking great brother.

My take on DHB is like a very low dose of tren and I mean low dose. I ran a very good sponsors gear @400mg per week. The pip was annoying specially when I had to inject shoulders. Gains were nice dry and solid. I did not have any sides to complain about other than the pip. Again nothing major just enough to bother you. Honestly in my personal experience I would rather run 200mg of tren than DHB. Thats just my preference.

 

[Papasmurf]

Looking great brother.

My take on DHB is like a very low dose of tren and I mean low dose. I ran a very good sponsors gear @400mg per week. The pip was annoying specially when I had to inject shoulders. Gains were nice dry and solid. I did not have any sides to complain about other than the pip. Again nothing major just enough to bother you. Honestly in my personal experience I would rather run 200mg of tren than DHB. Thats just my preference.

Thanks for the kind words brother. Means a lot coming from guy of your caliber👍

 

[Matt88]

A little fluffy right now but getting bigger and stronger. Yes, for those that chime in, I’m a little fat right now🤣

I've got more fat on one ass cheek than you do on your whole torso. Go lay down with this "I'm fat stuff" 😂🤣

In all seriousness you're killing it bro!!

 

[Papasmurf]

I've got more fat on one ass cheek than you do on your whole torso. Go lay down with this "I'm fat stuff" 😂🤣

In all seriousness you're killing it bro!!

Thanks brother! I think we all see ourselves differently and that’s what drives some of us to constantly work to improve. First time I’ve posted a pic and nothing but positive comments from you guys and it is appreciated. I’m one that very rarely shows off my body, usually just me and a mirror going to battle🤣

 

[Matt88]

Thanks brother! I think we all see ourselves differently and that’s what drives some of us to constantly work to improve. First time I’ve posted a pic and nothing but positive comments from you guys and it is appreciated. I’m one that very rarely shows off my body, usually just me and a mirror going to battle🤣

We are absolutely our own worst critic. Positive reinforcement from those we respect is a very helpful thing from time to time to remind our selves our hard work is paying off 💪💪

 

[zionoir626]

I always feel small... No matter what I weigh or look..
Z...

 

[Papasmurf]

I always feel small... No matter what I weigh or look..
Z...

Just great to have a place like ASF with so many like minded folks. Those that understand the struggles and triumphs and those that are willing to support and help where they can. This is truly a great forum with a lot of good guys!

 

[Jbswole40]

1st @Papasmurf 💪👌,look great bro..
2nd I have ran a few dhb cycles w a few different labs,very minimal pip and could have just been a bad shot, I have shot solo & mixed,300-450mg of dhb,
Lower test than dhb.
Test/dhb/mast
Test/dhb/npp.i did well with every single one ,nice full & vascular..only prob I ran into was the oil volume,10 + ml a week can be a bit much.

 

[Deeman]

Hey guys. I can’t see the whole post for some reason. Still in the learning phase here. I guess what I am asking should I use the dhb with just say 150 mg a week of test cyp. Or is the cyp not needed. At 51 trens isnt gonna be for me. Also can both be mixed or am I just asking for a bad pip. I don’t want that at all. I thought I also seen to cut the dhb somewhere but I can’t see the post. Thanks fellas

 

[Deeman]

also would I need to pin it 2 times a week also

 

[zionoir626]

Run it with Test...
Non Test Runs are for the Very Experienced..
That's yrs to decades of knowledge and cycles..
The newest cutting edge theories...are for the Elite...far too Many things could go wrong....
Z...

 

[Powerhousehb]

He don't fuck around.
One thing I do admire and I got to admit it, I have a lot of respect for the boys that have no tattoos man.
There's a big difference from having a little bit of ink or being heavily ain't like I am. And then when you see someone that looks phenomenal and they have no ink on them, I think it looks great.

If I new when I was 18-20 that I would end up in bodybuilding and be serious about it. I would never got any ink. In my opinion it looks so much better to show size without the distractions of ink. It can always be removed but pain in ass and pocket book. Not to many people without ink these days.

 

[Papasmurf]

1st @Papasmurf 💪👌,look great bro..
2nd I have ran a few dhb cycles w a few different labs,very minimal pip and could have just been a bad shot, I have shot solo & mixed,300-450mg of dhb,
Lower test than dhb.
Test/dhb/mast
Test/dhb/npp.i did well with every single one ,nice full & vascular..only prob I ran into was the oil volume,10 + ml a week can be a bit much.

Thanks brother!

 

[Deeman]

Run it with Test...
Non Test Runs are for the Very Experienced..
That's yrs to decades of knowledge and cycles..
The newest cutting edge theories...are for the Elite...far too Many things could go wrong....
Z...

Thanks z man for the heads up

 

[Deeman]

Thanks brother

 

[that0lred]

Run it with Test...
Non Test Runs are for the Very Experienced..
That's yrs to decades of knowledge and cycles..
The newest cutting edge theories...are for the Elite...far too Many things could go wrong....
Z...

This.. this is so undoubtedly true.

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[Deeman]

It’s definitely something to research for me. I will continue the homework. Bloodwork during my my test run to see how things look. Liver enzymes and all. If everything is on point then maybe give er a go

 

[Marisol1973]

I always feel small... No matter what I weigh or look..
Z...

That mind state we all have is scientificaly called Bigorexia. It is oficialy recognised as mental disorder. Means we're all loonies hahaha

I used DHB @600 wk, and in adition on 500 test wk is a LOT of oil to inject ... if you inject 2x wk it comes to 4ml volume per sringe, fuck! It is efective at high doses above 500, it will peal you off and veins will be poping everywhere, I even got veins that cycle on my traps ...

 

[maxmuscle1]

That mind state we all have is scientificaly called Bigorexia. It is oficialy recognised as mental disorder. Means we're all loonies hahaha

I used DHB @600 wk, and in adition on 500 test wk is a LOT of oil to inject ... if you inject 2x wk it comes to 4ml volume per sringe, fuck! It is efective at high doses above 500, it will peal you off and veins will be poping everywhere, I even got veins that cycle on my traps ...

Marisol! ! Been a while .

Max

 

[Marisol1973]

Marisol! ! Been a while .

Max

I'm here man, but not too active onboard .. bussy chasing gains

 

[gofaster87]

Love DHB. I got tired of the tren sides and it was recommended by a buddy. Was doing 500 test / 400 DHB for 3 months. the strength gains and vascularity for me was about equivalent to the tren cycles I had done without the sides. I kept my daily pinning schedule so my injection volume was low and I had no pip. Might try it again this year but Im getting old and I need to worry about my health a little more so I mght just keep it simple from now on.

 

[Deeman]

What kind of sides did/have you experienced with DHB?

Interested to find out sides as well

 

[Marisol1973]

Interested to find out sides as well

I was taking it with Test E only, no orals, no other compounds. Find no sides what so ever.