Cycle questions

[GJD]

Sup fellas, I’m looking to start a cycle in the next few weeks. I’m 6ft 190lbs and 28 years old.

I have taken a cycle previously and only after did I realize how dangerously uneducated I went about it…

Last summer, I did a 6 week cycle of Superdrol 20mg daily. I did not have any cycle support, PCT, or test. After reading these forums I’m learning how toxic it was on my body despite not having any known sides affects at all. No lethargy, gyno, anger etc…. In fact it was the most euphoric I’ve ever felt. I woke up day 2 with a full body pump, loads of energy and just an overall great feeling. Stamina and strength were through the roof, I could eat a cow, no soreness or recovery time. Just an overall “beast” feeling.

But I made MASSIVE gains. Just about every lift went up 100lbs
Ex. Deadlift before was 375lbs, after was almost 500.

I’m looking to cycle Superdrol again but “safely”. (I’m not interested in pinning so oral options only) After a lot of research, I’m still kind of lost on the best way to do it.

I want to take superdrol for 4-6 weeks again followed up with 1-test. (Hi-tech pharma)

This is where my confusion begins. Some are saying to start novladex from day 1, other are saying 1-test will further suppress natural test levels and to get on trt instead. I’m hearing I definitely need something for my liver on cycle like milk thistle. And after all this, what kind of pct? Or jus continue running novladex? Lots of confusion as you can see.

To conclude, I choose superdrol originally on a whim, but after seeing the results I’m certain it’s the choice for me (despite its apparent toxicity as I saw massive gains and no noticeable side affects. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

 

[rdm]

Are you talking about the legal prohormones?

 

[GJD]

Are you talking about the legal prohormones?

Yes, hi tech is a blend of 1 andro and 4 andro

 

[Ziath11]

In my opinion if you’re too scared of a needle to pin then you shouldn’t do steroids. Oral only cycles are stupid.

 

[rdm]

Yes, hi tech is a blend of 1 andro and 4 andro

Superdrol is not 1 or 4 andro. They're completely different compounds. Actual Superdrol is very toxic. The stuff you're taking is relatively safe.

 

[GJD]

Superdrol is not 1 or 4 andro. They're completely different compounds. Actual Superdrol is very toxic. The stuff you're taking is relatively safe.

The hi tech pharma calls it superdrol but no meth, just andro 1 and 4 blend

 

[GJD]

In my opinion if you’re too scared of a needle to pin then you shouldn’t do steroids. Oral only cycles are stupid.

It’s not that I’m scared to pin, I just don’t want to have to do that when I have had good results with the oral from hi tech above. Much easier to take a pill then to pin. I just am getting mixed advice of people. Some think I’m referring to the actual superdrol (methasterone) and hi-techs legal spin off which is a blend of andro 1 and 4

 

[GJD]

To clarify to all, I am not referring to methasterone. For all intensive purposes, it’s a 20mg 3 week cycle of a blend of andro 1 and 4

 

[Ziath11]

It’s not that I’m scared to pin, I just don’t want to have to do that when I have had good results with the oral from hi tech above. Much easier to take a pill then to pin. I just am getting mixed advice of people. Some think I’m referring to the actual superdrol (methasterone) and hi-techs legal spin off which is a blend of andro 1 and 4

your talking about this shit? I doubt anyone on the forum is gonna know much about whatever this spin off company is. Most people here are taking real superdrol not whatever this is. Your best bet is finding a place that talks about prohormones.

 

[CoachCabo]

You say you made “MASSIVE gains” but all you listed was strength increases. You are 6’ and 190lbs so I am not sure what you are considering gains, let alone MASSIVE gains.

You are talking about bullshit “nutritional supplements” as a cycle. So essentially you are wanting to manipulate your hormones with sketchy, unproven products but want to ignore proven medications/hormones which have DECADES of proven research and experience.
Man, you really need to reassess.
My bet is that most, if not all of your “gains” can be attributed to both placebo effect and that you probably put in actual effort whilst taking them.

Hammer away with a perfect diet and focused, purposeful training for three months and see what it gets you. You don’t need drugs for progress.

 

[GJD]

You say you made “MASSIVE gains” but all you listed was strength increases. You are 6’ and 190lbs so I am not sure what you are considering gains, let alone MASSIVE gains.

You are talking about bullshit “nutritional supplements” as a cycle. So essentially you are wanting to manipulate your hormones with sketchy, unproven products but want to ignore proven medications/hormones which have DECADES of proven research and experience.
Man, you really need to reassess.
My bet is that most, if not all of your “gains” can be attributed to both placebo effect and that you probably put in actual effort whilst taking them.

Hammer away with a perfect diet and focused, purposeful training for three months and see what it gets you. You don’t need drugs for progress.

I gained 20 lean pounds and lift consistently the past 14 years. It certainly wasn’t not placebo. I’m referring to it as a cycle because from what I’ve read, people take it in 3 or 6 week “cycles” with a pct after. I’m only here to learn from others, the arrogant and rude assumptions can be left for the birds. Relax internet tough guy.

 

[GJD]

Was not**

 

[GJD]

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your talking about this shit? I doubt anyone on the forum is gonna know much about whatever this spin off company is. Most people here are taking real superdrol not whatever this is. Your best bet is finding a place that talks about prohormones.

I was referred to post my questions here by other members, I am new to the site.

 

[Ziath11]

I gained 20 lean pounds and lift consistently the past 14 years. It certainly wasn’t not placebo. I’m referring to it as a cycle because from what I’ve read, people take it in 3 or 6 week “cycles” with a pct after. I’m only here to learn from others, the arrogant and rude assumptions can be left for the birds. Relax internet tough guy.

Your on a steroid forum not a snake oil supplement forum

 

[Ziath11]

I don’t say that to be a dick but really people here around gonna know what you’re talking about. There’s probably a better place that focuses on prohormones

 

[GJD]

Your on a steroid forum not a snake oil supplement forum

Like I said, I’m new to the forum and to my understanding 1-androsterone and 4-androsterone are commonly used. Which are the main ingredients in this product.

 

[rdm]

Like I said, I’m new to the forum and to my understanding 1-androsterone and 4-androsterone are commonly used. Which are the main ingredients in this product.

Not commonly used around here. This is a gear forum. Almost everyone here is on the real stuff.

No one's being a dick. It's like asking your barber tax questions.

 

[GJD]

I don’t say that to be a dick but really people here around gonna know what you’re talking about. There’s probably a better place that focuses on prohormones

To my understanding the two main ingredients are synthetic aas? This is why I’m here, to clarify and learn…no need to gatekeep the community. I’ve done prior research, I’m not jus here lazily asking for a help me button.

 

[CoachCabo]

Cool Swole-e-o!
Let me suggest a classic stack of equipoise and testosterone, add some dianabol for eight weeks and finish up with some anavar, primobolan and winstrol at the end. See pics for reference.
I bet you can hit some gainz big time…probably 20-30 by the end of this cycle. Ounces I mean.

 

[GJD]

Not commonly used around here. This is a gear forum. Almost everyone here is on the real stuff.

No one's being a dick. It's like asking your barber tax questions.

So those two ingredients are not synthetic aas?

 

[GJD]

Cool Swole-e-o!
Let me suggest a classic stack of equipoise and testosterone, add some dianabol for eight weeks and finish up with some anavar, primobolan and winstrol at the end. See pics for reference.
I bet you can hit some gainz big time…probably 20-30 by the end of this cycle. Ounces I mean.

Dude I am aware these products all are imitating the real stuff. If I was gonna take dbol I’d get the real stuff… I was looking into superdrol because of the two active ingredients andro 1 and 4, which to my understanding is an aas. You’d think you’d be interested in helping other with less knowledge in the field but you chose to be a dick. I’m a contractor and you’re no different than the subs I hire who scream at/clown their apprentices instead of patient and proper guidance to grow the passion for the industry. I feel bad for you honestly.

 

[rdm]

So those two ingredients are not synthetic aas?

No, they are prohormones. Very weak prohormones at that.

 

[CoachCabo]

Re-read my initial response and your initial reply. I didn’t mince words nor did I insult you but I DID even offer a suggestion in earnest. You responded with I suppose was an insult.
If you don’t want it, don’t ask. I rarely respond to these new guy queries because nearly all of them are exactly like your; ask a question and push back on replies because you are going to do whateverthefuck you plan to do anyway.

Your lack of understanding is obvious and begins with you thinking you are taking something which is liver toxic. Superdrol, the real one meaning methasterone, is toxic. Absofuckinglutely no one knows if that Hi Tech garbage is toxic, effective or even contains what they say considering it is Hi Tech. Google the FDA letters and sanctions against them for amino spiking and a bunch of other shit.

So, you gained 20lbs? That means you were 170 before taking that shit? Twenty pounds in six weeks? Real superdrol might not even be able to do that but yeah, yeah, a $90 internet product will.
I think most consumers would see the use of the actual drug names or a version thereof as a sign these guys are charlatans. Just like these fat loss infomercial pills prey on fat chicks, so does this company on skinny dudes. I guess 50 years ago when skinny guys got sand kicked in their faces, the went to the back of their comic books and ordered Charles Atlas’ manual. Today it’s fake ass products.

”Internet tough guy”? I am one of very few guys here with a very public profile. Anyone that care knows where I live, where I train and when and where I travel.

If you prefer to get a sore pussy about people saying things to you to help, then this forum probably isn’t for you.
Otherwise, ask your questions and shut up and listen. Constant rebuttals to every response won’t garner much help here.

 

[wesley_swolle]

Been waiting for the perfect time to deploy this meme. That time is now upon us

 

[GJD]

Re-read my initial response and your initial reply. I didn’t mince words nor did I insult you but I DID even offer a suggestion in earnest. You responded with I suppose was an insult.
If you don’t want it, don’t ask. I rarely respond to these new guy queries because nearly all of them are exactly like your; ask a question and push back on replies because you are going to do whateverthefuck you plan to do anyway.

Your lack of understanding is obvious and begins with you thinking you are taking something which is liver toxic. Superdrol, the real one meaning methasterone, is toxic. Absofuckinglutely no one knows if that Hi Tech garbage is toxic, effective or even contains what they say considering it is Hi Tech. Google the FDA letters and sanctions against them for amino spiking and a bunch of other shit.

So, you gained 20lbs? That means you were 170 before taking that shit? Twenty pounds in six weeks? Real superdrol might not even be able to do that but yeah, yeah, a $90 internet product will.
I think most consumers would see the use of the actual drug names or a version thereof as a sign these guys are charlatans. Just like these fat loss infomercial pills prey on fat chicks, so does this company on skinny dudes. I guess 50 years ago when skinny guys got sand kicked in their faces, the went to the back of their comic books and ordered Charles Atlas’ manual. Today it’s fake ass products.

”Internet tough guy”? I am one of very few guys here with a very public profile. Anyone that care knows where I live, where I train and when and where I travel.

If you prefer to get a sore pussy about people saying things to you to help, then this forum probably isn’t for you.
Otherwise, ask your questions and shut up and listen. Constant rebuttals to every response won’t garner much help here.

I’m not gonna continue to mice words with you. Maybe you don’t get laid enough… I did gain 20lbs. Was weighing 210 and then tore my MCL. I’m back at 190 now and had a good experience the first time. I have been working out properly, I was drafted and played low level ball in the Sox organization (point of saying that is I’m familiar with the weight room and dieting properly. All I was hear to ask is if anyone had experience or knowledge with the product. Didn’t need the hardo shit or you trying to tell me that my mind was tricked into thinking I got bigger lol 🤡

 

[GJD]

Been waiting for the perfect time to deploy this meme. That time is now upon us

It’s pretty clear I’m just inquiring and haven “taken” or “not taken” anyones advice. It’s hilariously pathetic how many of you are so easily triggered by comments on a screen.

 

[wesley_swolle]

It’s pretty clear I’m just inquiring and haven “taken” or “not taken” anyones advice. It’s hilariously pathetic how many of you are so easily triggered by comments on a screen.

What's even more pathetic is that the only one being triggered, is the one calling people out for being triggered. Project much??
I'll admit, some of the replies you were giving were on the snarky side, but that's the nature of an AAS forum. Clearly, you're accustomed to being treated in a more cordial manner(being a contractor and all) so maybe ASF isn't a right fit for you.

 

[CoachCabo]

Is it just me or is 28 the new 13?

 

[GJD]

What's even more pathetic is that the only one being triggered, is the one calling people out for being triggered. Project much??
I'll admit, some of the replies you were giving were on the snarky side, but that's the nature of an AAS forum. Clearly, you're accustomed to being treated in a more cordial manner(being a contractor and all) so maybe ASF isn't a right fit for you.

One of the staff member/administrators direct messaged me with lots of info on these andro blends and even offers them in his store. He was nothing but respectful, showing people respect and receiving it back…What a crazy concept!

 

[GJD]

Is it just me or is 28 the new 13?

Buddy you’re a fuckin clown, I’d scrape your old ass and then fuck your gross wife for the fun of it.