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CoronaVirus Vaccine

Will you voluntarily take the CoronaVirus vaccine

  • Absolutely!

    Votes: 24 21.1%
  • Hell no!

    Votes: 74 64.9%
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Yes this is the kicker. Many of the vaccinated will sadly die prematurely.

Based on viral escape and suppression of their own immune system, but the fact that the vaccinated cannot fight the Variants.

But one of the bigger things that is being igorned is the Clotting at microscopic level. This will kill many of the vaccinated within a few years due to Cardiovascular issues.

Also the vaccinated are now creating mutations, aka variants. So the variants actually do exist even though we can't technically "test" for them. Every virus mutates, but in theory we know that an MRNA vaccine will cause this precise phenomena.

This is why they are pushing the vaccine so much. It will kill many. Population control

It is simply too hard for so many to wrap their minds around..

On facebook I was in a discussion and I was banned from FB, bc the people who were debating on me, just simply couldn't respond to anything I said with facts. So they reported me and I was banned.

They changed their own goal posts from , Get the vaccine to save other people. I said, you can spread the vaccine, you can catch the vaccine, and you can become a super spreader of the vaccine (these are all facts). They came back and said, "well everyone should just get it because it won't allow you to become as ill as if you are unvaccinated.". At which point is, I asked, "show me the data. Show me the studies that prove this. Where is the documentation?" At which point they said, "look at the hospitals, everyone that is sick is unvaccinated". I said "ok show me those statistics. Show me that data, show me any studies proving it". Finally about a dozen people engaged me, "when finally several people say, "don't waste your time with him, he just doesn't get it."

These people don't follow science. They follow what they see on TV, or what they hear from the fake news.

I provided links to all of the science and studies I showed and they immediately attacked those studies and data. They said "those aren't real, those don't compare, those are not FDA approved, not CDC guidance"

It was immediately clear to not just me, but alot of other people in the conversation, that I could show them a smoking gun video of Fauci admitting he paid to have this all funded, created and what I claimed is precisely the truth. And those people would still never believe anything except what they initially believed and initially were told. It's like Cognitive Dissonance on Methyl Tren.

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Thanks and agree in micro clotting, lots of evidence on this. I’ve heard numerous people tell me that the still got Covid say that they ‘think’ it helps reduce symptoms. I guess they can convince themselves.

Too bad the MSM isn’t discussing clots or viral escape.
 

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Yes this is the kicker. Many of the vaccinated will sadly die prematurely.

Based on viral escape and suppression of their own immune system, but the fact that the vaccinated cannot fight the Variants.

But one of the bigger things that is being igorned is the Clotting at microscopic level. This will kill many of the vaccinated within a few years due to Cardiovascular issues.

Also the vaccinated are now creating mutations, aka variants. So the variants actually do exist even though we can't technically "test" for them. Every virus mutates, but in theory we know that an MRNA vaccine will cause this precise phenomena.

This is why they are pushing the vaccine so much. It will kill many. Population control

It is simply too hard for so many to wrap their minds around..

On facebook I was in a discussion and I was banned from FB, bc the people who were debating on me, just simply couldn't respond to anything I said with facts. So they reported me and I was banned.

They changed their own goal posts from , Get the vaccine to save other people. I said, you can spread covid if you get the vaccine, you can catch covid if you get the vaccine, and you can become a super spreader of the virus if you get the vaccine (these are all facts). They came back and said, "well everyone should just get it because it won't allow you to become as ill as if you are unvaccinated.". At which point is, I asked, "show me the data. Show me the studies that prove this. Where is the documentation?" At which point they said, "look at the hospitals, everyone that is sick is unvaccinated". I said "ok show me those statistics. Show me that data, show me any studies proving it". Finally about a dozen people engaged me, "when finally several people say, "don't waste your time with him, he just doesn't get it."

These people don't follow science. They follow what they see on TV, or what they hear from the fake news.

I provided links to all of the science and studies I showed and they immediately attacked those studies and data. They said "those aren't real, those don't compare, those are not FDA approved, not CDC guidance"

It was immediately clear to not just me, but alot of other people in the conversation, that I could show them a smoking gun video of Fauci admitting he paid to have this all funded, created and what I claimed is precisely the truth. And those people would still never believe anything except what they initially believed and initially were told. It's like Cognitive Dissonance on Methyl Tren.

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Micro clotting? Dammit. Off to do some more reading again. I knew about the vaccine causing clots, but the micro clotting I haven’t heard of yet. I believe it though.
 

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Micro clotting? Dammit. Off to do some more reading again. I knew about the vaccine causing clots, but the micro clotting I haven’t heard of yet. I believe it though.

Several doctors have done independent analysis of their patients and see clotting in 60-70% of those who receive the vaccine

Many of these are microscopic and cannot be seen normally

You can get a D-dimer test to reveal it
https://medlineplus.gov/lab-tests/d-dimer-test/


The issue being that the general public, won't see this or even know it. Some will, as some will develop larger clots, which we see in the form of Heart attack and stroke.

These may occur over time in some. These will occur immediately in some. These will not occur ever for some people receiving the vaccines. The more vaccines you receive and boosters, the higher occurences you will have of clotting and the more likely to have side effects such as clotting

Take a look at this video of a girl with "side effects". These are clearly blood clots that are developing and visible

Now imagine the danger of these internally?

This is the big little secret not being told.

https://t.me/DrTenpenny/12013?fbclid=IwAR0VEhlRy9p30dVrhuiaW3uBrdxB4v_r4rNwvBtzqpvV4QJi4f11tna4PLI
 

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Several doctors have done independent analysis of their patients and see clotting in 60-70% of those who receive the vaccine

Many of these are microscopic and cannot be seen normally

You can get a D-dimer test to reveal it
https://medlineplus.gov/lab-tests/d-dimer-test/


The issue being that the general public, won't see this or even know it. Some will, as some will develop larger clots, which we see in the form of Heart attack and stroke.

These may occur over time in some. These will occur immediately in some. These will not occur ever for some people receiving the vaccines. The more vaccines you receive and boosters, the higher occurences you will have of clotting and the more likely to have side effects such as clotting

Take a look at this video of a girl with "side effects". These are clearly blood clots that are developing and visible

Now imagine the danger of these internally?

This is the big little secret not being told.

https://t.me/DrTenpenny/12013?fbclid=IwAR0VEhlRy9p30dVrhuiaW3uBrdxB4v_r4rNwvBtzqpvV4QJi4f11tna4PLI

Good God. What a mess.

Thank you for the info.
 

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Several doctors have done independent analysis of their patients and see clotting in 60-70% of those who receive the vaccine

Many of these are microscopic and cannot be seen normally

You can get a D-dimer test to reveal it
https://medlineplus.gov/lab-tests/d-dimer-test/


The issue being that the general public, won't see this or even know it. Some will, as some will develop larger clots, which we see in the form of Heart attack and stroke.

These may occur over time in some. These will occur immediately in some. These will not occur ever for some people receiving the vaccines. The more vaccines you receive and boosters, the higher occurences you will have of clotting and the more likely to have side effects such as clotting

Take a look at this video of a girl with "side effects". These are clearly blood clots that are developing and visible

Now imagine the danger of these internally?

This is the big little secret not being told.

https://t.me/DrTenpenny/12013?fbclid=IwAR0VEhlRy9p30dVrhuiaW3uBrdxB4v_r4rNwvBtzqpvV4QJi4f11tna4PLI
Sadly folks who get Covid are also sometimes getting blood clotting. I have read a ton of info but I'm still unclear weather this happens later in the disease or if it happens right away and/or what percentage of folks get clots.

My wife's best friend contracted Covid and had many blood clots in her lungs but she didn't get treatment until like 15 days into C19. Huge mistake.
 

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Sadly folks who get Covid are also sometimes getting blood clotting. I have read a ton of info but I'm still unclear weather this happens later in the disease or if it happens right away and/or what percentage of folks get clots.

My wife's best friend contracted Covid and had many blood clots in her lungs but she didn't get treatment until like 15 days into C19. Huge mistake.
Sounds like a good idea to run a blood thinner on covid or if you got vaccinated..
 

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The biggest thing cracking me upright now is the use of “delta” in every sentence by everyone who a buying into all the bullshit. “But delta is this…or that…” Likea bunch of parrots.
Never mind the PCR tests have been determined to be dubious detecting COVID, somehow every case is now delta, meaning that the original one is extinct now? Here’s the thing, even with a positive test, the only way to determine if it is a specific strain is to look directly at the DNA. Although the PCR is a “DNA” test, it doesn’t differentiate the strains or variants. PCR is quite crude and couldn’t even get O.J. convicted.
Seen this mentioned anywhere?

Never have I seen so many people speaking far out of their lanes as if they are squawking absolutes.

Wesley, your description of the “discussion” on FB is pretty much what I experience everywhere.
I submitted the NIH study on ivermectin on another forum when all those guys were doing the “horse wormer” thing.
They came back with words like “vague” and “weak”.
The actual verbiage in the report was “…substantial, significant reduction in transmissablity, time to recovery and symptoms…”.
Why bother when the mind is made up?

Alll along I have said that if people would just say to me something like “Some of these reports and studies are complellinng but I personally will err on the side of caution and get the vaccine.” that we could go about thisintelligently. But since what you almost always get are dismissiveness and insults, I will no longer waste my breath.
 

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Great Reddit thread on vaccine problems…found it interesting on the theory that variants are evolving to escape the vaccinated, not unvaccinated.

https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownCr...infos_ten_problems_with_the_vaccine_mandates/
Yes the variants are likely caused by the "vaccinated".

Dr. Peter McCullough: FDA's Approval Of The COVID-19 mRNA Vaccines And The CDC's VAERS Database
1. The virus does not spread asymptomatically.
2. We should never test asymptomatic people.
3. Natural immunity is robust, complete, and durable.
4. COVID-19 is easily treatable at home.
5. The current vaccines are obsolete, unsafe, and unfit for human use.

https://rumble.com/vm3jw8-dr.-peter...-database-and-fda-approval-of-covid-19-v.html
 

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Whats crazy is I saw a friend of mine, Patrick Arnold posting about the vaccines. For them

He's a brilliant man, but then at the same time he's saying "unvaccinated' are the ones causing the variants LOL

And that is just simply not true

I can remember being chastised on this forum years ago when I was fighting saying that the Flu shot, spreads the flu and the the "vaccinated" with the flu shot spread it at a higher rate

I was basing this on the data we had at the hospitals I worked at. It was a known fact

And people were trashing me about that. If I had time I'd do a search and find it on here. Even the studies then showed that some flu shot studies showed that the Flu Shot was causing shedding at 600x the rate of someone who didn't receive a flu shot

I think peoples minds are going to be blown when they finally put two and two together. These "vaccines" flu and covid are spreading the viruses And they are spreading stronger versions of the virus. And they are mutating as a result as well

People are going to have a hard time wrapping their minds around the fact, that the CDC and "agencies" like NIH and FDA that you were thought were here to "help" you, are doing the exact opposite. Intentionally.
 

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Sounds like a good idea to run a blood thinner on covid or if you got vaccinated..

I thought the same thing, but Wes and/or Heavy posted a pretty good explanation of why it wouldn't work.
 

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Figured I'd drop a couple little tales here regarding COVID treatment using IVM.

A fried of ours recently got COVID pretty badly and his doctor refused to do anything until he has breathing problems of course. So I hooked him up with a course of the FLCCC's early treaent protocol using human pharma IVM at .4mg/kg bodyweight for 5 days, 5000iu vit D, 1000mg vit C, 9mg melatonin nightly, 500mg quercetin 2x daily, and 100mg zinc daily. I also gave him 500mg azithromycin daily for 5 days since he was staying to have breathing problems. By day 3 he went from the most sick he's ever been in his life to feeling completely normal.

Another one that's even more important. My wife ended up with a severe case of long haul COVID syndrome that was causing her autonomic nervous system to misfire and giving her debilitating vertigo and dizziness to the point she would pass out. We've been seeing specialists from high end neurologists, the lon haul COVID clinic at UC Davis, and an autonomic disorder specialist at Stanford since January. No progress except that her neurologist got the non-stop headache it caused to go away using doxepin. She ran basically the same protocol, with the addition of high dosed omega 3's and a course of fluvoxamine. On the second day into the protocol ALL of the symptoms ceased completely and she's feeling better than she has for almost a year since we had COVID. We're almost to the 2 week mark now and still zero symptoms. She's now on a once weekly dose of IVM at .2mg/kg and will stay on it (as well as myself) for prophylaxis until I'm done with my busy season at work (I work around a lot of migrant workers during this time so chances of exposure is very high). After that she'll come off and we'll see where it goes.

I've also treated a family member that's had bad post-vaccination side effects, which were basically mild long haul COVID symptoms. Three days of IVM at .2mg/kg completely solved her vaccine effects and they haven't come back.

This whole demonizing of IVM is ridiculous. I mean, there are a handful of idiots using the vet paste made for cattle and horses (accurate dosing is impossible with that), but the stuff is very safe and seemingly highly effective against COVID. The worst is typically diarrhea and some itching at the doses used in humans.

I am glad to see some people finally speaking out since Dr Pierre Kory and Bret Weinstein were on Rogan's podcast.
 

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Figured I'd drop a couple little tales here regarding COVID treatment using IVM.

A fried of ours recently got COVID pretty badly and his doctor refused to do anything until he has breathing problems of course. So I hooked him up with a course of the FLCCC's early treaent protocol using human pharma IVM at .4mg/kg bodyweight for 5 days, 5000iu vit D, 1000mg vit C, 9mg melatonin nightly, 500mg quercetin 2x daily, and 100mg zinc daily. I also gave him 500mg azithromycin daily for 5 days since he was staying to have breathing problems. By day 3 he went from the most sick he's ever been in his life to feeling completely normal.

Another one that's even more important. My wife ended up with a severe case of long haul COVID syndrome that was causing her autonomic nervous system to misfire and giving her debilitating vertigo and dizziness to the point she would pass out. We've been seeing specialists from high end neurologists, the lon haul COVID clinic at UC Davis, and an autonomic disorder specialist at Stanford since January. No progress except that her neurologist got the non-stop headache it caused to go away using doxepin. She ran basically the same protocol, with the addition of high dosed omega 3's and a course of fluvoxamine. On the second day into the protocol ALL of the symptoms ceased completely and she's feeling better than she has for almost a year since we had COVID. We're almost to the 2 week mark now and still zero symptoms. She's now on a once weekly dose of IVM at .2mg/kg and will stay on it (as well as myself) for prophylaxis until I'm done with my busy season at work (I work around a lot of migrant workers during this time so chances of exposure is very high). After that she'll come off and we'll see where it goes.

I've also treated a family member that's had bad post-vaccination side effects, which were basically mild long haul COVID symptoms. Three days of IVM at .2mg/kg completely solved her vaccine effects and they haven't come back.

This whole demonizing of IVM is ridiculous. I mean, there are a handful of idiots using the vet paste made for cattle and horses (accurate dosing is impossible with that), but the stuff is very safe and seemingly highly effective against COVID. The worst is typically diarrhea and some itching at the doses used in humans.

I am glad to see some people finally speaking out since Dr Pierre Kory and Bret Weinstein were on Rogan's podcast.
So glad you were successful...thanks for sharing

they demonized hydroxychloroquine when it was discovered to help...they said it was gonna kill alot of people..wrong...
Hydroxychloroquine one of the safest medicines there is, one of the most studied drugs there is..just fucking ridiculous...
 
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So glad you were successful...thanks for sharing

they demonized hydroxychloroquine when it was discovered to help...they said it was gonna kill alot of people..wrong...
Hydroxychloroquine one of the safest medicines there is, one of the most studied drugs there is..just fucking ridiculous...

I just ordered a bunch of hydroxychloroquine and Zithromax, enough for my family and then some. No one here is sick, just planning ahead
 

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So Denmark is opening with no restrictions. Saying they're 75% vaxed and they're out of the woods now as far as cases go.

How is it Isreal is 78% vaxed and having 11k cases a day? Makes no sense.
 

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So Denmark is opening with no restrictions. Saying they're 75% vaxed and they're out of the woods now as far as cases go.

How is it Isreal is 78% vaxed and having 11k cases a day? Makes no sense.
Israel used Pfizer until August 1st and its the lowest dose mRNA therapy.
 

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[h=1]FOIA Release: Fauci Funded Construction Of 'Chimeric Coronaviruses' In Wuhan[/h]
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https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...-funded-wuhan-research-construct-sars-related

Now, thanks to materials (here and here) released through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by The Intercept against the National Institutes of Health (which were unredacted enough to toss Fauci under the bus), we now know that Fauci-funded EcoHealth Alliance, a New York-based nonprofit headed by Peter Daszak, was absolutely engaged in gain-of-function research to make chimeric SARS-based coronaviruses, which they confirmed could infect human cells.

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[h=1]FOIA Release: Fauci Funded Construction Of 'Chimeric Coronaviruses' In Wuhan[/h]
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by Tyler Durden



https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/...-funded-wuhan-research-construct-sars-related

Now, thanks to materials (here and here) released through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit by The Intercept against the National Institutes of Health (which were unredacted enough to toss Fauci under the bus), we now know that Fauci-funded EcoHealth Alliance, a New York-based nonprofit headed by Peter Daszak, was absolutely engaged in gain-of-function research to make chimeric SARS-based coronaviruses, which they confirmed could infect human cells.

fauci%20paul.jpeg

In a just world, he would be arrested, tried, and hung. Sadly, nothing will come of this. He will be protected by the Deep State.
 

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Whats crazy is I saw a friend of mine, Patrick Arnold posting about the vaccines. For them

He's a brilliant man, but then at the same time he's saying "unvaccinated' are the ones causing the variants LOL

And that is just simply not true

I can remember being chastised on this forum years ago when I was fighting saying that the Flu shot, spreads the flu and the the "vaccinated" with the flu shot spread it at a higher rate

I was basing this on the data we had at the hospitals I worked at. It was a known fact

And people were trashing me about that. If I had time I'd do a search and find it on here. Even the studies then showed that some flu shot studies showed that the Flu Shot was causing shedding at 600x the rate of someone who didn't receive a flu shot

I think peoples minds are going to be blown when they finally put two and two together. These "vaccines" flu and covid are spreading the viruses And they are spreading stronger versions of the virus. And they are mutating as a result as well

People are going to have a hard time wrapping their minds around the fact, that the CDC and "agencies" like NIH and FDA that you were thought were here to "help" you, are doing the exact opposite. Intentionally.

Brother this is exactly what I’ve been telling people and no one believes me or dismisses me a paranoid. Nothing beats what God has given us naturally to beat this covid crap. Obviously ivermectin zinc C D and other prophylactic’s are a good idea but the vaccine is way beyond natural and imo an unnatural poison !!
 

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Brother this is exactly what I’ve been telling people and no one believes me or dismisses me a paranoid. Nothing beats what God has given us naturally to beat this covid crap. Obviously ivermectin zinc C D and other prophylactic’s are a good idea but the vaccine is way beyond natural and imo an unnatural poison !!

Agreed!
 

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I'm going to piss some people off. But here it goes.
I'm not really sure any of this helps. What I do think is that 99.8% live from covid. Many of you know I have pre existing conditions. Yes we got covid and it was before all these treatments. We both took
NAC
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Emergency C that you add to water.
Lots of fluids and we all 3 made it. I'm 47 the wife is 48 and daughter was 11. She had a fever for maybe 4 hrs and was back to normal the next day.

I really think people are over playing this. I will be happy to post labs before covid showing issues. I'll also post my test, we tested twice to make sure. We also tested for flu A B separately. I shouldn't be alive right? I had surgery 5 months before we got it and was still in recovery. I have metal poisoning.

I understand the panic, shit a BIG part of all of this was the not knowing what was coming next because you hear all the stories. This stresses you thr heck out. I also took anxiety meds while we were sick so I could chill and my BP would stay low.

Just my opinion.
 

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To add, we also used olive of oregano in a face steamer for the chest congestion. My doc got us hooked on it. No doc visit or hospital stay.
 
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To add, we also used olive of oregano in a face steamer for the chest congestion. My doc got us hooked on it. No doc visit or hospital stay.
Zinc is a primary sup for treating viruses. It has been shown to reduce virus replication if taken early. Obviously Zinc is found in many foods so you may have been covered through diet.
 

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Anyone who listens to the news and buys into their COVID scare tactics, has other issues they need to work on.
Like growing their own brain.
 

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Fauci should be hung.

Absolutely responsible for mass deaths
 

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I'm going to piss some people off. But here it goes.
I'm not really sure any of this helps. What I do think is that 99.8% live from covid. Many of you know I have pre existing conditions. Yes we got covid and it was before all these treatments. We both took
NAC
ZPAC
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C
Magnesium
Emergency C that you add to water.
Lots of fluids and we all 3 made it. I'm 47 the wife is 48 and daughter was 11. She had a fever for maybe 4 hrs and was back to normal the next day.

I really think people are over playing this. I will be happy to post labs before covid showing issues. I'll also post my test, we tested twice to make sure. We also tested for flu A B separately. I shouldn't be alive right? I had surgery 5 months before we got it and was still in recovery. I have metal poisoning.

I understand the panic, shit a BIG part of all of this was the not knowing what was coming next because you hear all the stories. This stresses you thr heck out. I also took anxiety meds while we were sick so I could chill and my BP would stay low.

Just my opinion.


You hit a nail on the head that many people NEVER considered

FEAR

How many "hospitilizations" were simply bc the media pushed this so hard, people were having anxiety and panic attacks thinking they were going to die and they were just fine

And if you visit the ER, guess what? You are counted as a hospitilization.

The PCR tests are false. The Virus was reacted to in a frenzy.
False data was collected at every single point. People were put into nursing homes for no other reason but to infect and kill others to bring the numbers up.

If anyone here (libs) can dispute this, simply show me studies or evidence to the contrary. This is 100% true and everyone knows it

When they asked the Nuremberg doctors how they got everyone to turn against the Jews. They said easy. It wasn't under threat or duress. It was under the disguise of FEAR.

They even said the Jews spread disease and this is part of the reason some Germans were ok with them being killed.

Crazy right?
 

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