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This is beautiful thread :rolleyes:
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Honestly depending how many cycles you have done and want to bulk like a body builder here is a more advanced mass bulking to lean gain cycle I have composed. A little bit pricey but one of my buddies tried it and all I can say is wow.

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Test E 1000mg a week 1-16

Tren A 700mg a week 1-16

Deca 450mg a week 1-8

EQ 900mg a week from 7-9 than 450mg 10-16

TNE/dbol/drol blend 100mg daily before the gym (not for off days or cardio days)

Orals
Anadrol 100mg a day from weeks 1-6

no orals from 6-8

Turinabol 40mg+ a day from weeks 8-16
 

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Obviously you will have to do your own pct and oct. Just remember steroids are the least important part of the cycle. Most important are diet and gym dedication than AAS.
 

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And contrary to popular belief using more than 1 19type steroid is not bad like people think or a waste of steroids. I just wish someone on here would do a 16 week log of it to show how amazing the results are.
 

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Honestly depending how many cycles you have done and want to bulk like a body builder here is a more advanced mass bulking to lean gain cycle I have composed. A little bit pricey but one of my buddies tried it and all I can say is wow.

16weeks
Injectables

Test E 1000mg a week 1-16

Tren A 700mg a week 1-16

Deca 450mg a week 1-8

EQ 900mg a week from 7-9 than 450mg 10-16

TNE/dbol/drol blend 100mg daily before the gym (not for off days or cardio days)

Orals
Anadrol 100mg a day from weeks 1-6

no orals from 6-8

Turinabol 40mg+ a day from weeks 8-16

I like it man. I've heard that the double 19-nor cycle can be successful but of course you'd have to keep e2 down. With test tren deca and eq, gains would be unreal. I'd go with a lil less than 100 for anadrol kickstart, but I like the idea of tbol as a back end oral.. Anavar would also be a good one for that purpose.


-mass
 

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damn bro, am on the 3 dance with them aas as well. every where i look they say not to fuck with tren if you havent done a good amount of cycles in the past, but one of my homies at the gym said his friend started off with tren right off the bat lol. you couldnt find any body with eq at 300mg? and the hole nova being bad for 19-nor is only if your running it during your cycle but since your suppose to stop using deca at lest 2 week before test so it can more time to clear the body you shouldnt have any problems when adding nova to your pct stack. i want to see how this goes for your body bro tren and deca both shut down the body pretty hard and both together i have read that its not a good idea but each persons body responds to compounds differently just like some people wont get deca dick and some will. keep me posted now how this cycle goes for you brotha.
oh yea am just going to be running 4 weeks 30mg of dbol to kick start my cycle and weekly 600mg test for 14 weeks and deca at 400mg for 12 weeks and i got some Exemestane that i will be running at 12.5 ed with .5 caber split two times a week . good luck bro
 

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I think the test -tren ratios look horrible, it's asking for a world of sides. Trens so versatile and powerful, why add in all these other compounds? With all due respect it's a waste IMO.

I'd either dump the tren and up the other anabolics - probably EQ and test

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Run test at 150-200mg and start the tren at 75mg ED, and up the tren dose by 25mg E2W for as long as you can handle it.

Throw in 100mg Proviron, plus if you need other orals go for it.

Just my 0.02
 

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damn bro, am on the 3 dance with them aas as well. every where i look they say not to fuck with tren if you havent done a good amount of cycles in the past, but one of my homies at the gym said his friend started off with tren right off the bat lol. you couldnt find any body with eq at 300mg? and the hole nova being bad for 19-nor is only if your running it during your cycle but since your suppose to stop using deca at lest 2 week before test so it can more time to clear the body you shouldnt have any problems when adding nova to your pct stack. i want to see how this goes for your body bro tren and deca both shut down the body pretty hard and both together i have read that its not a good idea but each persons body responds to compounds differently just like some people wont get deca dick and some will. keep me posted now how this cycle goes for you brotha.
oh yea am just going to be running 4 weeks 30mg of dbol to kick start my cycle and weekly 600mg test for 14 weeks and deca at 400mg for 12 weeks and i got some Exemestane that i will be running at 12.5 ed with .5 caber split two times a week . good luck bro
Just to clarify: that was just his suggestion. I have never done tren and not going to til next cycle and for that one I'm just going to do test e at 250 or so (maybe a lil higher) with tren at 400-600. I personally don't see anything wrong with running the two 19-nor compounds (i.e. tren and deca) together if you are on 20 mg of aromasin ed and have caber on hand, but I personally just don't care to try it. More interested in his idea of adding a back-end oral like turinabol.
 

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I think the test -tren ratios look horrible, it's asking for a world of sides. Trens so versatile and powerful, why add in all these other compounds? With all due respect it's a waste IMO.

I'd either dump the tren and up the other anabolics - probably EQ and test

Or

Run test at 150-200mg and start the tren at 75mg ED, and up the tren dose by 25mg E2W for as long as you can handle it.

Throw in 100mg Proviron, plus if you need other orals go for it.

Just my 0.02
Respectable opinion. I think it would just be too much work to develop a plan to run all four compounds and even more difficult to figure out which compound is causing each individual side effect. To reiterate, I'm still just doing this cycle: Kick-start:

D-Bol @
50mg/day (weeks 1-6)


TestProp @
100mg/eod (weeks 1-6)
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Cycle:

Test-E
750mg/wk(weeks 1-6) **3ml, 1.5ml- 2x/wk
1000 mg/wk (weeks 7-12) **4ml, 2ml -2x/wk
1250 mg/wk (weeks 13-16) **5ml, 2.5ml -2x/wk
*need 62 ml

Deca
400mg/wk(weeks 1-6) **2ml, 1ml -2x/wk
600mg/wk (weeks 7-14) **3ml, 1.5ml - 2x/wk
*need 36 ml

TNE Blend – pre-workout (weeks 7-16)

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Support:


Aromasin @
20mg/day (weeks 1-23)


Caber @
1mg/wk (weeks 1-23)

*increase if needed


HCG @
1000iu/wk(weeks 8-18)
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PCT:

Clomid @
50/50/50/50/50(weeks 19-23)

Nolva @
20/20/20/20/20(weeks 19-23)

Thinking about adding EQ at 600 mg weeks 1-14 and possibly a back-end oral like TBol, but that's it.

 

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Get Shredded!
Dosage recommendations for back-end tbol for cycle listed above, anyone?


-mass
 

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Sounds grand. Will be posting 2 sets of porn, both here as well as on OP forum when I get test and deca. Will do this for every item I receive and then there's going to be an extensive log. Excited to get started. Hopefully you guys will stay tuned for my log start
 

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Kill it man! That's an insane cycle. Good luck! And please post progress. I'm dying to see the results.
 

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Not sure if this has already been discussed but I would seriously consider switching the deca for NPP and running all the way thru. Nandrolone in the short ester form almost seems like a different aas, more potent, less bloat, lean gains. I doubt if I will ever use deca again. I know OrDawg concurs with me (maybe NPP just works better for us old guys :) )

I'm using tbol right now (25mg caps). On your cycle I would backload with 50mg-75mg ED.
 

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Was considering kickstart with npp to kick off deca but npp for how long my cycle is would be alot of pinning. Thnx for tip though, I'll look into it.


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Not sure if this has already been discussed but I would seriously consider switching the deca for NPP and running all the way thru. Nandrolone in the short ester form almost seems like a different aas, more potent, less bloat, lean gains. I doubt if I will ever use deca again. I know OrDawg concurs with me (maybe NPP just works better for us old guys :) )

I'm using tbol right now (25mg caps). On your cycle I would backload with 50mg-75mg ED.

Thanks for tbol dosing tip. Was considering going that range. The way you describe NPP has me considering it over deca. I'll do some research


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Running something similar in the next month or two thought you might like it massthetics


Kick-start:


D-Bol @
50mg/day (weeks 1-6)




TestProp @
100mg/eod (weeks 1-6)
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Cycle:


Test-c
500mg/wk(weeks 1-6)
750mg/wk (weeks 7-12)
1000 mg/wk (weeks 13-16)


Npp
75mg ed (weeks 1-6)
100mg ed (weeks 7-16)


EQ
600 mg/wk (weeks 1-7)
800 mg/wk (weeks 8-14)
TNE – pre-workout heavy days


Tbol
60mg ed (weeks 12-16)
__________________________________________________ ______
Support:


Aromasin @
20mg/day (weeks 1-23)




Caber @
1mg/wk (weeks 1-19)
*increase if needed




HCG @
1000iu/wk(weeks 4-18)
__________________________________________________ _______
PCT:


Clomid @
50/50/50/50/50(weeks 19-23)


Nolva @
20/20/20/20/20(weeks 19-23)
 

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Definitely adding EQ to my cycle at 500 a week up til week 15. Also, AMA has a "lean gain mix" that is 150 mg total mix of test prop, npp, and mast prop. I'm seriously considering using it instead of just test prop as a kickstart for the first six weeks alongside dbol. I figure it will be good to combine npp and prop to kickstart deca and test e, respectively. I imagine the ratio of each is 50/50/50. How much eod to kick off my cycle at that ratio? Should I run the blend for four or six weeks? How bout the DBol at 50 mg a day, 4 or 6 weeks. Lets hear some feedback. This will be on my next order: EQ for whole cycle, Lean Gain for kickstart, and DBol also for kickstart.


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Holy hell you change your mind once a day huh? Lol.
 

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Basically. I spend like an hour a day wrecking my brain conjuring up cycle modifications. For instance. Next pay:

Supplies - GPZ, EQ, Dbol, Test Prop instead of the blend.. Too complicated. Didnt like it. Lol



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I've start pinning test and deca with test @ 750 and deca at 400. Have always heard about half the test dose is good. Pinned 0.5 ml test e in my left pec, then 1 ml of test e in left tricep for a total of 375 ml. I then pinned 1 ml of deca in my left delt. Used a 31G slin pin to do these.. hardly any pip whatsoever. little sore upon flexing but kinda feels good like being sore from a good workout. Anyway, should I start Aromasin right now or when I start to feel effects. Don't want to start too early.
 

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Good news is that I am almost done with my first week of my bulking cycle. Base is test e at 1000mg frontload first week. I've done 3.4 ml since Wednesday (6 days ago) which is 850mg .. May just leave first week where it is dosage-wise. Aromasin will be on the way soon hopefully. I did 1ml deca on thursday night and 1ml just now on tuesday morning. So 850/400 test to deca ratio and blood levels should be about balanced from alternating and timing pins. Have a little pip but only because I've already hit both shoulders, both triceps, and both pecs as well as quad. Lol. Idk if its placebo affect.. Probably.. But I feel pumped. All OP oils by the way. Gonna check BP and make sure everything is cool, get labs here in a few weeks. Have some dbol and caber on the way. Also have some more dbol and test prop coming to get the gains rolling.


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okay so I'm in week two of my cycle. diet is clean and everything is great. just pinned my test e and deca from OP and my test prop from mlg. still using slin pins effectively. pinned in my right pec, right delt, and right tricep. have yet to pin lower body. anyway. a little pip in right delt but prob cause I'm pushing oil through a 31G w/o warming it up lol. anyway pinned an entire ml/cc of test into my left tricep yesterday and it's sore as shit today and my gf kept punching it and it hurt like shit. anyway, great gear and think it's starting to kick in. can't wait to feel the dbol kick in. just got it and the test prop recently so started mlg dbol today at 50 mg.
 

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Progress pic: (consider this my before pic) weighing in at 199 as of right now. Hoping to weigh 220 by end of cycle including PCT
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One more.. Btw got a big subcutaneous red , warm bump in left pec that blanches from red to white upon touch from pinning 1 ml not sure if I didn't get deep enough cause I been using slin pins or what but anyway pinned another ml of prop today so waiting for the real results to kick in. Starting week 3 now.
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