Honestly depending how many cycles you have done and want to bulk like a body builder here is a more advanced mass bulking to lean gain cycle I have composed. A little bit pricey but one of my buddies tried it and all I can say is wow.
Test E 1000mg a week 1-16
Tren A 700mg a week 1-16
Deca 450mg a week 1-8
EQ 900mg a week from 7-9 than 450mg 10-16
TNE/dbol/drol blend 100mg daily before the gym (not for off days or cardio days)
Anadrol 100mg a day from weeks 1-6
no orals from 6-8
Turinabol 40mg+ a day from weeks 8-16
Just to clarify: that was just his suggestion. I have never done tren and not going to til next cycle and for that one I'm just going to do test e at 250 or so (maybe a lil higher) with tren at 400-600. I personally don't see anything wrong with running the two 19-nor compounds (i.e. tren and deca) together if you are on 20 mg of aromasin ed and have caber on hand, but I personally just don't care to try it. More interested in his idea of adding a back-end oral like turinabol.damn bro, am on the 3 dance with them aas as well. every where i look they say not to fuck with tren if you havent done a good amount of cycles in the past, but one of my homies at the gym said his friend started off with tren right off the bat lol. you couldnt find any body with eq at 300mg? and the hole nova being bad for 19-nor is only if your running it during your cycle but since your suppose to stop using deca at lest 2 week before test so it can more time to clear the body you shouldnt have any problems when adding nova to your pct stack. i want to see how this goes for your body bro tren and deca both shut down the body pretty hard and both together i have read that its not a good idea but each persons body responds to compounds differently just like some people wont get deca dick and some will. keep me posted now how this cycle goes for you brotha.
oh yea am just going to be running 4 weeks 30mg of dbol to kick start my cycle and weekly 600mg test for 14 weeks and deca at 400mg for 12 weeks and i got some Exemestane that i will be running at 12.5 ed with .5 caber split two times a week . good luck bro
Respectable opinion. I think it would just be too much work to develop a plan to run all four compounds and even more difficult to figure out which compound is causing each individual side effect. To reiterate, I'm still just doing this cycle: Kick-start:I think the test -tren ratios look horrible, it's asking for a world of sides. Trens so versatile and powerful, why add in all these other compounds? With all due respect it's a waste IMO.
I'd either dump the tren and up the other anabolics - probably EQ and test
Run test at 150-200mg and start the tren at 75mg ED, and up the tren dose by 25mg E2W for as long as you can handle it.
Throw in 100mg Proviron, plus if you need other orals go for it.
Just my 0.02
Not sure if this has already been discussed but I would seriously consider switching the deca for NPP and running all the way thru. Nandrolone in the short ester form almost seems like a different aas, more potent, less bloat, lean gains. I doubt if I will ever use deca again. I know OrDawg concurs with me (maybe NPP just works better for us old guys )
I'm using tbol right now (25mg caps). On your cycle I would backload with 50mg-75mg ED.