Blood works, help with results interpretation, advices for pct and so on

[RThoads]

When I use Exemestane, I take it EOD.

@ 600mg test a week, I take 12.5 mg Exem EOD;
@ 1000mg test a week, I take 25mg Exem EOD.

That seems to work well for me.

But everyone is different, so you will just have to dial it in to see what works best for you.

 

[maddoger]

When I use Exemestane, I take it EOD.

@ 600mg test a week, I take 12.5 mg Exem EOD;
@ 1000mg test a week, I take 25mg Exem EOD.

That seems to work well for me.

But everyone is different, so you will just have to dial it in to see what works best for you.

Try 12.5mg a day after pinning or day of pin

I guess I should start with something like E3D/E5D on my bridge of 100mg of Test Cyp E5D. Thanks !

 

[maddoger]

Planning my next cycle. Previous one was 600mg Sust + 600mg Bold + 230mg Tren H + 560mg Masteron a week. I really liked the results, burned a lot of fat and gained lean muscle, didn't have to use AI at all because of boldenone. I'd do the same cycle again, but I have a lot of anavar which I want to try. Thinking of 600mg Sust + 600mg Bold + 230mg Tren H a week + 60mg anavar ED. Should I add some masteron in the end or to the entire cycle ? Or how to improve it ? Looking for a pro advice ! Thanks !

 

[maddoger]

Planning my next cycle. Previous one was 600mg Sust + 600mg Bold + 230mg Tren H + 560mg Masteron a week. I really liked the results, burned a lot of fat and gained lean muscle, didn't have to use AI at all because of boldenone. I'd do the same cycle again, but I have a lot of anavar which I want to try. Thinking of 600mg Sust + 600mg Bold + 230mg Tren H a week + 60mg anavar ED. Should I add some masteron in the end or to the entire cycle ? Or how to improve it ? Looking for a pro advice ! Thanks !

Any ideas?

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Hello Sir, Let's see what we can do,if you haven't cycle time limit's.. I recommend you to start with sust+bold+mast+anavar and after a while add tren 1-3wk sust 0.5ml EOD (125mg) Bold 0.5ml EOD (150mg) mast P or E 1ml EOD ( 100/200mg) anavar ED 50mg On week 3 do blood test, you need to check E2 level, if it on ref level well, stop anavar and add tren. Anyway I recommend you to have om hand some AI,AE (farestos) and caber

 

[TrenHardEatClen]

Hey yall,

Got done with my first cyc of 500mg of test E about 2 months ago. I did a short PCT of 4 weeks. Didn't wanna go overboard since it's only my first cycle.

I'm thinking about going back on again soon. This time I'm gonna blast and cruise for a while maybe 2 years or longer.

Just did my BT and everything looked mostly good with excepting of a few. Can you advise, please?

Thank you.

Ps. I always do 2 BT for every cycle. 1 before and 1 about 4 - 5 weeks in.

View attachment 37892

 

[H-D]

I’ve been reading through most of this thread and got a question for the experts. Is there a target or ideal testosterone level for an anabolic state?
I know what the recommended ranges are on the labs, but can it be too high? If everything else is within or close to ideal numbers and tes is way up there is that bad?
Thanks in advance

 

[maddoger]

Hello Sir, Let's see what we can do,if you haven't cycle time limit's.. I recommend you to start with sust+bold+mast+anavar and after a while add tren 1-3wk sust 0.5ml EOD (125mg) Bold 0.5ml EOD (150mg) mast P or E 1ml EOD ( 100/200mg) anavar ED 50mg On week 3 do blood test, you need to check E2 level, if it on ref level well, stop anavar and add tren. Anyway I recommend you to have om hand some AI,AE (farestos) and caber

Interesting, why to stop anavar after 3 weeks ? Just trying to understand how the things work...
Also, I can do ultra-sensitive E2 test, afaik it will show correct E2 value while using tren. Also, last time 600mg of Sust + 600mg of Bold kept my E2 within the range

 

[maddoger]

Interesting, why to stop anavar after 3 weeks ? Just trying to understand how the things work...
Also, I can do ultra-sensitive E2 test, afaik it will show correct E2 value while using tren. Also, last time 600mg of Sust + 600mg of Bold kept my E2 within the range

Is it because Anavar and Masteron are derivatives of DHT and it doesn't make sense to mix two of those ?

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Sir, can't open your attachment, please try to upload again...
P.S cool avatar

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Hello Sir, if you mean ideal endogenous testosterone level, so all rates which are over middle and coming to top bound may be called - good anabolic level. But if you mean cycle rate, best level can be around 3-5 times higher than top endogenous level.
But all this level and anabolic effects which they can provide in some cases means nothing, it' very individually. Best option to get more anabolic effects, use other more anabolic then testosterone steroids

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Using orals on cycle start - main point to start get anabolic effect asap. 2-4 weeks more than enough for longs ester to get permanent rate level. After this you add tren, which have very strong connection with androgen receptors, this connection anavar can overcome with a big complexity. yon need very big doses of anavar.
Also what a reason to give extra stress to your liver? if you can use only oil?

But if you can do ultra-sensitive E2 test, so start all aas together from the outset

 

[TrenHardEatClen]

Sir, can't open your attachment, please try to upload again...
P.S cool avatar

https://imgur.com/a/fJahgx2

I should also let you know that my lady turned vegetarian not too long ago. So my meat consumption has gone down a bit.

Also thank you for pic

Ps.

Here is what my blast looking like.

600mg Test E 14 weeks
300mg Deca 14 weeks
30MG DBOL ED 1 - 4 weeks.

Then cruise 200mg Test E.

It'll be my first time doing blast and cruise please give any advice you think would be helpful.

Thank you.

 

[maddoger]

Using orals on cycle start - main point to start get anabolic effect asap. 2-4 weeks more than enough for longs ester to get permanent rate level. After this you add tren, which have very strong connection with androgen receptors, this connection anavar can overcome with a big complexity. yon need very big doses of anavar.
Also what a reason to give extra stress to your liver? if you can use only oil?

But if you can do ultra-sensitive E2 test, so start all aas together from the outset

Thanks for the response.
What about boldenone ? It’s weak, how it will bind to androgen receptors when there is Tren ? What's the benefit of having it except for not using AI ?

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Certainly, bold has less AR binding paired with tren. But in most cases we use bold with much more dosage, so it offset less binding capacity.
Benefit of bold using is about anti E2 activity.

You can make your cycle without AI using.
But this is very individually! In my experience, I can say that you need same bold and testo dosages or in some cases you need more bold.
Some thing like this.
Testo e 300wk + bold 300 (600-900). If you will use 3 times more bold than test, you will with a big probability take down E2 l to lower level.

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Hm, first - if you use test and nandrolones, you need to have AI and caber on hand to avoid possible side effects.
Second - you need to check E2 and prolactin level about 2-3 weeks after cycle was start.

You can start with 1tab caber E2D and I think 0.5tab of caber E15day will work great with you deca level.
Also if you use orals, on week 4 you need to check ALT and AST level for be sure that you liver is fine.
Third you need to check CBC in particular your blood reology.

So in conclude I still can't open your picture due to imgur is over capacity. I will check again later.

about you test "cruise" - why not!?
But you can add to your cruise primo

Something like this - Test E(C) 100mg E4D+primo 50(100mg) E4D, based on my opinion, it will be better. (30-60days)

 

[H-D]

Hello Sir, if you mean ideal endogenous testosterone level, so all rates which are over middle and coming to top bound may be called - good anabolic level. But if you mean cycle rate, best level can be around 3-5 times higher than top endogenous level.
But all this level and anabolic effects which they can provide in some cases means nothing, it' very individually. Best option to get more anabolic effects, use other more anabolic then testosterone steroids

Thanks!

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

As always, welcome!

 

[TrenHardEatClen]

Did you ever get a chance to go back and look at my attachment?

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Ohh, man, I don't even remember... 1sec

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

can't find, lay here again please

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

On the nearby board, guys ask my to get something interesting from russia team, so, want to share with you guys

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Cycle plan for one of old team member, who would get back on stage in pro division after long break. Bulk/recomp part 1-4weeks. Testo C 200mg EOD Nanmix 300mg EOD Bold 250mg EOD Dbol lq 1ml ED (stop on week 3) HGH 20IU ED (15/5) Ins 20IU (10/5/5) Anastrazole 1 tab E2D Farestos 1 tab E5D HCG 500IU E5D. First blood test (e2 and prolactin) 4-16 Mix-3 EOD Bold 300 EOD HGH 10 IU (5/5) anastrazole 1 tab E2D HCG 500IU Farestos 1 tab E5D. Blood tests (СBC/metabolic panel/hormones) E14D. 2-20 week I.V E5D. Also as he said ton's of medical drug and food supplements. Cutting part 1-4 weeks Mix-6 ED Primo 300ED T4-200mcg T3-50mcg The rest part of gear the same. 4- 12wk Mix-6 EOD Primo 300 EOD T4-200mcg T3-50mcg the rest part of gear the same. 12- still continuing Mix-6 EOD Mast E 100 EOD Tren E 100 EOD T4-300mcg T3-100mcg The rest part of gear the same What coming next I don't know yet. Interesting that they don't use orals on bulking and cutting part. He said that he will add halo 50mg + wins lq 100 ED 30 day before first start. Also he said - such bid doses will be just on this part. After all runs this guy will be on rest for 4 weeks testo C 200mg+ primo 200mg (I also use this protocol) After rest all AAS doses would be 2 two times less and it will be also mix - 3 and bold on bulking part

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Got question from other board about insulin and protocols "how they use insulin like if they are using the long one and short one , lantus and humalog ? And how they eat after humalog". This is about russian team.
Answer-
So, about lantus, as I understood from his doctor email, they are rarely resort to long ins, in moslty cases, they use novorapid.
How they eat depend on time and situation, I mean regular meal time (rice/groats) or after training snack (sugar)

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

Good question from other board about ratio test and other anabolic, protocols from Russian team. So got answer, from their doc. Now the moving toward to low test, more anabolic in most cases! But this is individually, after all.

 

[maddoger]

Crashed E2 from EQ. It’s below the bottom line. How to recover quickly? EQ half life is 14 days 😳
300Sust+250EQ+120Tren+240Mast E3D and no AI. I’m surprised..
I have HCG, I don’t have DBol, HCG makes me feel less fatiqued and depressed, but for a short time

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

add sust and hcg

 

[maddoger]

add sust and hcg

should I skip one dose of Bold ? How muc should i adjust for future doses? I was thinking of 250mg of Sust and 150mg of Bold E3D

 

[Pharmacom-Helper]

I don't think that you need to skip bold injection, but for now just add some sust like 500mg and HCG, and after that move to sust 250 and bold 150 E3D.
For the future... Start with testo and bold for 2-3 first weeks, to the end of this time check E2 level, and if it ok, so add tren...

 

[maddoger]

I don't think that you need to skip bold injection, but for now just add some sust like 500mg and HCG, and after that move to sust 250 and bold 150 E3D.
For the future... Start with testo and bold for 2-3 first weeks, to the end of this time check E2 level, and if it ok, so add tren...

Thanks for the help, now I feel much better. I skipped one bold dose and now I'm on 250mg Sust + 150mg Bold.

It's not a problem for me, because I can do ultra-sensitive E2. Also, Masteron is a mild AI as well, so last time I checked E2 after 2 weeks of Bold + Sust and it was ok, but later it dropped too much again.

I have a few more questions:
1. There is something wrong going on with Iron.
2. My HDL is super low, even though I take rosuvastatin 10mg daily, high quality fish oil 3 times a day with meals(except of protein shakes), I also take pumpkin see oil and 1500mg of Niacin. We had some discussion a long time ago, I thought statins will fix it, but not HDL. How to fix it ?
3. My RBC is high, but Hematocrit is ok. What RBC number is a signal to donate the blood ?

Here are the lab results that are out of the normal range:

https://ibb.co/68BrWjR
https://ibb.co/CB8YBnL
https://ibb.co/drYYPB6
https://ibb.co/pftvZDs

Thanks again !