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Hi all, i created this thread and would like to offer discussing all questions regarding cycles, training, blood work results, PCT in this single thread. In this way you guys will have lot of useful info within one single thread. Newbies can ask here questions regarding cycles, schedules, PCT and recovery advices. Our assistant Pharmacom Helper (http://www.anabolicsteroidforums.com/member.php/24599-Pharmacom-Helper) has experience with these things; he will check the thread on daily basis and do his best to help you. Don`t hesitate to ask for any advices regarding everything connected to your cycle, blood works interpretation, PCT, etc. You are welcome!
 
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good, I took advantage of it immediately with this question:

Is it true that trenbolone can be identified as beta-estradiol and therefore alter the blood test results?
 

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good, I took advantage of it immediately with this question: Is it true that trenbolone can be identified as beta-estradiol and therefore alter the blood test results?
Indeed, tren on lab tests look like E2. You can use your mix without tren first time, stabilized E2 level with anastrozole (inhibitor aromatase) and after that engage tren to your mix. Or if you know how your aromatase works just take anastrozole without lab test. How many testo you use?
 

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Hi there ;)

I would need some feedback regarding my planned bulking soon when it's time.

8 Weeks EOD Cycle

This is my 3rd Cycle

Stats:
Age: 31
Height: 5 7"
Weight: 145 lbs

Consist:
Npp - Tpp - Anastrozole - Hcg - Clomiphen - Tamoxifen

Begin 4 Days: Only Tpp 50mg Each (200mg)
MON - WED - FRI - SUN

WK 1. (For 2 Weeks)
Npp 350mg (50mg each) -
Tpp 455mg (65mg each) -

WK. 1 - 8
Anastrozole 1mg EOD

WK 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
Npp 455mg (65mg each) -
Tpp 560mg (80mg each) -

Last 4 Weeks: (5, 6, 7, 8)
Hcg 500 IU (once a Week)

WK 9. Finish By:
Only Tpp 50mg Each (200mg)
MON - WED - FRI - SUN

WK 10. PCT (For 3 Weeks)
Day 1 - 14
Clomiphen 50mg (Daily)
Tamoxifen 20mg (Daily)

Day 15 - 21
Clomiphen 25mg (Daily)
Tamoxifen 10mg (Daily)
 

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Hi there ;) I would need some feedback regarding my planned bulking soon when it's time. 8 Weeks EOD Cycle This is my 3rd Cycle Stats: Age: 31 Height: 5 7" Weight: 145 lbs Consist: Npp - Tpp - Anastrozole - Hcg - Clomiphen - Tamoxifen Begin 4 Days: Only Tpp 50mg Each (200mg) MON - WED - FRI - SUN WK 1. (For 2 Weeks) Npp 350mg (50mg each) - Tpp 455mg (65mg each) - WK. 1 - 8 Anastrozole 1mg EOD WK 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 Npp 455mg (65mg each) - Tpp 560mg (80mg each) - Last 4 Weeks: (5, 6, 7, 8) Hcg 500 IU (once a Week) WK 9. Finish By: Only Tpp 50mg Each (200mg) MON - WED - FRI - SUN WK 10. PCT (For 3 Weeks) Day 1 - 14 Clomiphen 50mg (Daily) Tamoxifen 20mg (Daily) Day 15 - 21 Clomiphen 25mg (Daily) Tamoxifen 10mg (Daily)
personally I don't like short esters and short cycles. Unfortunately, what you see is what you get... Before cycle - CBC, ALT/AST, BC/BU, cholesterol LDL/HDL levels. Clomiphene 50 mg/day - 5 days before cycle start. Anastrazole 0.5 mg/day 5 days before cycle start throughout the cycle 1) omega-3 2-4 grams/day 2) Now Foods pumpkin seed oil - 1 gramm 2 times after food. 3)Inosine 500 mg before food 2 times/day 4) If you got bad LDL/HDL levels mevacol 20 mg before sleep. 5) Anastrazole 0.5 mg ED (1/2 of tablet) WK 1-9 6) Dostinex (cabergoline) 0.5 mg every 14 days start from 1 week On 4 or 5 week tests on E2 and prolactin levels AAS Cycle WK 1-8 Tpp - 100 mg Npp - 50 mg ED Tpp - 700mg (week) Npp - 350 (week) WK 4-8 HCG - 1000 IU - once a week (monday) PCT protocole Start week 9 In your case tamox with nandrolones very bad idea. Clomid 1 WK 150mg - daily 2 WK 100mg - daily 3 WK 50mg - daily 4 WK same 5 WK same 6 WK lab tests or Clomid (C) and Toremifene (T) 1 WK C100mg - daily T60mg - daily 2 WK same 3 WK C50mg - daily T30mg - daily 4WK C50mg - daily 5WK C50mg - daily 6WK lab tests Anyway in your 3rd cycle you have little bit mild dosages.
 
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Here you added many more stuff to take... My last cycle was 4 months ago, as follows;
 
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Hey,

I went short ester because I have always used long esters and long esters it tales around 5 weeks to see some changes and also trying to stay low on Water retention since short ester...

Please have a look to my new bulking diet, because that pic I was on Low carb diet to shred belly fat.

Grams weight is the scale weight;

MEAL 1. 6am
Weatabix 50g 2 - Almond Milk -
Eggs Whole 4

MEAL 2. 9am
Breast 138g - Couscous/Rice 75g -
Olive Oil tsp - Salad

MEAL 3. 12pm
Breast 138g - Couscous/Rice 75g -
Olive Oil tsp - Salad

SNACK 15pm
Fruit / almonds

BFR Gym 17:40pm
Oats 50g - Shake 40g 1 1/2 scoop - Honey 2 tsp - Omega 3 1 Tab

AFTR Gym 19:40pm
Oats 50g - Shake 40g 1 1/2 scoop

MEAL 4. 21:00pm
Meat 123g - Couscous/Rice 75g -
Olive Oil tsp - Salad - Omega 3 1 Tab
 

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Hey,

I went short ester because I have always used long esters and long esters it tales around 5 weeks to see some changes
Well this is not true, Test E or Tren E does not just linger for 5 weeks, you shall start feeling it by week 2.
 

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Well this is not true, Test E or Tren E does not just linger for 5 weeks, you shall start feeling it by week 2.

Not everybody reacts the same, some require more dosage than others...
 

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Hello, Sorry it took so long to answer you, I added more drugs to take care about your health. I don't need to tell you what's AAS is not a vitamin pill. That was a reason, and this a minimum adds I can advise
 

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For long esters you can double doses on start, for example...1-2 times will be enough. besides you can extend your cycle to 12-14 WK, accordingly you will get more results of your cycle
 

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Indeed, tren on lab tests look like E2. You can use your mix without tren first time, stabilized E2 level with anastrozole (inhibitor aromatase) and after that engage tren to your mix. Or if you know how your aromatase works just take anastrozole without lab test. How many testo you use?
Great info about Tren and bloods. I will need to keep it in mind. Thanks
 

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personally I don't like short esters and short cycles. Unfortunately, what you see is what you get... Before cycle - CBC, ALT/AST, BC/BU, cholesterol LDL/HDL levels. Clomiphene 50 mg/day - 5 days before cycle start. Anastrazole 0.5 mg/day 5 days before cycle start throughout the cycle 1) omega-3 2-4 grams/day 2) Now Foods pumpkin seed oil - 1 gramm 2 times after food. 3)Inosine 500 mg before food 2 times/day 4) If you got bad LDL/HDL levels mevacol 20 mg before sleep. 5) Anastrazole 0.5 mg ED (1/2 of tablet) WK 1-9 6) Dostinex (cabergoline) 0.5 mg every 14 days start from 1 week On 4 or 5 week tests on E2 and prolactin levels AAS Cycle WK 1-8 Tpp - 100 mg Npp - 50 mg ED Tpp - 700mg (week) Npp - 350 (week) WK 4-8 HCG - 1000 IU - once a week (monday) PCT protocole Start week 9 In your case tamox with nandrolones very bad idea. Clomid 1 WK 150mg - daily 2 WK 100mg - daily 3 WK 50mg - daily 4 WK same 5 WK same 6 WK lab tests or Clomid (C) and Toremifene (T) 1 WK C100mg - daily T60mg - daily 2 WK same 3 WK C50mg - daily T30mg - daily 4WK C50mg - daily 5WK C50mg - daily 6WK lab tests Anyway in your 3rd cycle you have little bit mild dosages.

Hey,

Not sure if you replied on my message because couldn't find nothing.

Please can you reply below my questions;

Blood result was done on the 27th July;

-ALT found 54 little High than 55 - 41
-Creatinine found 108 little high than
59 - 105


-Why start Clomiphen before cycle and keeps them throughout the cycle ? And not just for PCT

-Omega 3,6,9 I take 2 Tabs/Day

The below are all to get vitamins ?

-Pumpkin seed oil, How many tbsp in
1 gram ?

-inosine 500mg

-Anastrozole make a week more after the cycle ?

-Cabergoline these are for gyno puffy Nipples? If so anastrozole and Proviron can do the same work ? Since I have somw Proviron in hand...

-Why Tpp double dosage than Npp ? Trying to keep water low and since bulking Cycle I want to get the most from the Npp

-And pinning can be EOD why ED ? At least will give a day rest between pinning...

-Hcg 4 - 8 week 1000IU week every (Monday) and not during PCT ?

-PCT start from last week of the cycle ?

-Why tamox is bad with Npp ?

-Toremifene is used for Estrogen water retention ? If so anastrozole can do the same job ? Trying to stay away from amny orals if with anastrozole can hit to things...

-So PCT stretch it to 6 weeks ?
 

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Hey, Not sure if you replied on my message because couldn't find nothing. Please can you reply below my questions; Blood result was done on the 27th July; -ALT found 54 little High than 55 - 41 -Creatinine found 108 little high than 59 - 105 -Why start Clomiphen before cycle and keeps them throughout the cycle ? And not just for PCT -Omega 3,6,9 I take 2 Tabs/Day The below are all to get vitamins ? -Pumpkin seed oil, How many tbsp in 1 gram ? -inosine 500mg -Anastrozole make a week more after the cycle ? -Cabergoline these are for gyno puffy Nipples? If so anastrozole and Proviron can do the same work ? Since I have somw Proviron in hand... -Why Tpp double dosage than Npp ? Trying to keep water low and since bulking Cycle I want to get the most from the Npp -And pinning can be EOD why ED ? At least will give a day rest between pinning... -Hcg 4 - 8 week 1000IU week every (Monday) and not during PCT ? -PCT start from last week of the cycle ? -Why tamox is bad with Npp ? -Toremifene is used for Estrogen water retention ? If so anastrozole can do the same job ? Trying to stay away from amny orals if with anastrozole can hit to things... -So PCT stretch it to 6 weeks ?
-Your lab tests little bit old and don't demonstrate whole situation. Clomid before cycle it's called BCP protocol, and need to prepare HHG system for cycle and take off possible pathologies related with HHG system. -Pumpkin seed oil is much better use in tabs, anyway 1tbsp - 5 gramms oil. -Anastrozole make a week more after the cycle - yes, remove E2 and take off sides effects of E2 on Hypothalamus, it's stimulate hypophysis cells to produse LH and FSH more faster because clomid don't need to compete with E2 for receptors. -Nandrolones which you have in your cycles can up prolactin level and you can get situstion which called "prolactin gyno" or if you got high level of E2 and prolactin you can got breasts like Pamela got))) that why you need cabergoline, cabergoline reduce prolactin level, besides high prolactin level not good for men's health at all. -Why Tpp double dosage thah Npp? Trying to keep water low and since bulking cycle I want to get the most from Npp - if you gonna use anastrozole, you don't get problem with water in your cycle. Double dosage of test can reduse "possible" sidse effects. But if you tolerate nandrolones well, of course, you can increase your dosages. -And pinning can be EOD why ED? - yes, it ca be. -HCG 4-8 week 1000IU week every (Monday) and not during - yes, just only during cycle, not for PCT!!! -PCT start from last week of the cycle? - Yes. -Why tamox is bad with Npp- tamox can icreases quantity of progesterone receptors. besides tamox is very toxic drug. -Toremifene is used for estrogen water retention? If so...... - not exactly true. Toremifene is the same pharmacological group as Clomid, to be more precise toremifen is improved version of tamox. For using toremifen during cycle we have many reasons, but now we speak about PCT and clomid+toremifen give us synergy effects. And reduse the chances of sides effects. -So PCT stretch it to 6 weeks? - Yes.
 

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Some good info PH!
Keep that knowledge flowing!
 

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What is the reason for avoiding nolvadex when using nandrolones? I have heard this a few times and I’m not understanding your answer?
 

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Yo PH! What do you think of the following for a short, burst cycle?

1-3
375mg Deca e3d (875mg ew)
20mg Tbol ed
0.5 Caber e3d

4-5 100mg Test P e2d (350mg ew)
150mg Bold Ace e2d (525mg ew)
20mg Tbol ed
50mg Proviron ed
12.5mg Exemestane e2d
 

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Tamox increase amount of progesterone receptors

If you keep your e2 in check would that still be a problem? I used it while using tren and npp to knock out some gyno from dbol and it worked very well.... along with letro
 
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If you keep your e2 in check would that still be a problem? I used it while using tren and npp to knock out some gyno from dbol and it worked very well.... along with letro

As far as I know its not about E2. Nandrolone may have influence on progesterone, which in its turn can cause increase of prolactin levels. Tamoxifen may only promote worsening this side effect and as result you get side effects typical for high prolactin levels. They are similar to the side effects typical for E2, but its not the same; in parcitular, aromatase inhibitors won`t help here. Cabergoline should be at hand when using any 19-nor-testosterone derivatives. Just avoid using tamoxifen citrate for PCT after 19-nor like nandrolone, trenbolone . Clomid is preferable antiestrogen fo PCT; toremifene citrate as alternative also does not have this tamoxifen`s peculiarity to increase progestin side effects after 19-nor. This is one of the reason, why we produce toremifene citrate (Farestos) and are not going to produce outdated tamoxifen.
 
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-Your lab tests little bit old and don't demonstrate whole situation. Clomid before cycle it's called BCP protocol, and need to prepare HHG system for cycle and take off possible pathologies related with HHG system. -Pumpkin seed oil is much better use in tabs, anyway 1tbsp - 5 gramms oil. -Anastrozole make a week more after the cycle - yes, remove E2 and take off sides effects of E2 on Hypothalamus, it's stimulate hypophysis cells to produse LH and FSH more faster because clomid don't need to compete with E2 for receptors. -Nandrolones which you have in your cycles can up prolactin level and you can get situstion which called "prolactin gyno" or if you got high level of E2 and prolactin you can got breasts like Pamela got))) that why you need cabergoline, cabergoline reduce prolactin level, besides high prolactin level not good for men's health at all. -Why Tpp double dosage thah Npp? Trying to keep water low and since bulking cycle I want to get the most from Npp - if you gonna use anastrozole, you don't get problem with water in your cycle. Double dosage of test can reduse "possible" sidse effects. But if you tolerate nandrolones well, of course, you can increase your dosages. -And pinning can be EOD why ED? - yes, it ca be. -HCG 4-8 week 1000IU week every (Monday) and not during - yes, just only during cycle, not for PCT!!! -PCT start from last week of the cycle? - Yes. -Why tamox is bad with Npp- tamox can icreases quantity of progesterone receptors. besides tamox is very toxic drug. -Toremifene is used for estrogen water retention? If so...... - not exactly true. Toremifene is the same pharmacological group as Clomid, to be more precise toremifen is improved version of tamox. For using toremifen during cycle we have many reasons, but now we speak about PCT and clomid+toremifen give us synergy effects. And reduse the chances of sides effects. -So PCT stretch it to 6 weeks? - Yes.

Hey,

Shall I have your reply pm or whatever to build that cycle...
 

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Hello guys.... I thought I'd start write some small/maybe not.... articles based on my knowledge and medical practise....If you have some thing I can write about please tell... Today I start with telling you guys about very important organ in our body - liver (hepar). And what we can do to test liver function... I want teach you guys approach the issue like a pro BB do this. You know AAS is not first one you need to pay attention with...Your health function is most important things, without which no progress would be possible. You must understand that top pro BB wins first pleases becouse they use our production))) Furthermore, they have 1-2 qualified persons why monitored all health indicators. I tell you some detail which I advice to my "wardmans". When you must check liver function.... as prevention 1-2 times year, if you had some disease bound liver 1-3 times year, if you use oral steroids and spesific hepatotoxic drugs.... every 2-6 wk. If you want start cycle, I recomend do "liver (blood) tests" before, during ( 2-3 times in 12wk cycle) after cycle during PCT. So what we need to check to get know how our liver "feeling"... 1) Alanine aminotransferase (ALT) 2) Aspartate aminotransferase (AST) 3)Gamma-glutamyl transferase (GGT) 4)Alkaline phosphatase (ALP) 5)Cholinesterase 6) blood Urea 7)Serum Protein (SPE) and Last but not least 8)Bilirubin total 9)Bilirubin direct. Each of these test in a sense reflects the liver condition.... If you have questions about your blood test, I waiting them))) My guys pay me a tidy sum to get answers, for you guys it's free))) so enjoy;)
 

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Hello guys.... I thought I'd start write some small/maybe not.... articles based on my knowledge and medical practise....If you have some thing I can write about please tell... Today I start with telling you guys about very important organ in our body - liver (hepar). And what we can do to test liver function... I want teach you guys approach the issue like a pro BB do this. You know AAS is not first one you need to pay attention with...Your health function is most important things, without which no progress would be possible. You must understand that top pro BB wins first pleases becouse they use our production))) Furthermore, they have 1-2 qualified persons why monitored all health indicators. I tell you some detail which I advice to my "wardmans". When you must check liver function.... as prevention 1-2 times year, if you had some disease bound liver 1-3 times year, if you use oral steroids and spesific hepatotoxic drugs.... every 2-6 wk. If you want start cycle, I recomend do "liver (blood) tests" before, during ( 2-3 times in 12wk cycle) after cycle during PCT. So what we need to check to get know how our liver "feeling"... 1) Alanine aminotransferase (ALT) 2) Aspartate aminotransferase (AST) 3)Gamma-glutamyl transferase (GGT) 4)Alkaline phosphatase (ALP) 5)Cholinesterase 6) blood Urea 7)Serum Protein (SPE) and Last but not least 8)Bilirubin total 9)Bilirubin direct. Each of these test in a sense reflects the liver condition.... If you have questions about your blood test, I waiting them))) My guys pay me a tidy sum to get answers, for you guys it's free))) so enjoy;)

Great Article :)

On the 23th September just had a blood result as follows_

Liver:
Bilirubin Serum - 3.5 within 0 - 21 mmol
Alkaline phosphatase Serum - 86 within 40 - 129 U/I
Gamma Glutamic transferase - 12 within 8 - 61 U/I
ALT serum - 45 high within - 5 - 41 U/I
Urea Serum - 9.4 High within - 1.7 -8.3 mmol

What do you think ?

I have two from them found HIGH...
 

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Hello, your high one results is just within the margin of error. Don't worry I can recommend you engage methionine 2gram before meal or if you have extra money SAMe 400mg for 20 days - preventive measures for your liver. About serum level - you did this test on cycle right?
 

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Hello, your high one results is just within the margin of error. Don't worry I can recommend you engage methionine 2gram before meal or if you have extra money SAMe 400mg for 20 days - preventive measures for your liver. About serum level - you did this test on cycle right?

Hi Bro ;-)

Methionine and same they can come in tablets right? They do the same job?

My last shoot of Trenbolone was on 20th June so is more than 4 months and blood test taken on 27th September.

Do you remember me? We are about to started one...

Cheers
 

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I decided to post this article here. From time to time we receive questions about the expiration dates of our products. Whether expired products are effective and safe to use.
Below is the study from one of the most respected world-known universities (Harvard) saying that most drugs are good for up to 15 years past their expiration date.

I personally know several athletes who used our products years after their expired. They worked perfectly. For the sake of justice, it should be noted that we talk about products that were stored unopened under the recommended conditions.
So, if you, for some reason, did not manage to use a product within the planned time frame and the exp.date is close, its not a big deal at all. You can still use them if products were unopened and stored properly.
Of course we don`t talk about cases, when you opened a vial, used the half of it and kept another half for the next year. Such situations should be avoided.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/drug-expiration-dates-do-they-mean-anything

Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything?

FDA study gets to the heart of medicine expiration and safety

Updated: August 13, 2017Published: November, 2003

ExpiredDrug_dreamstime_m_20278518.jpg
With a splitting headache, you reach into your medicine cabinet for some aspirin only to find the stamped expiration date on the medicine bottle is more than a year out of date. So, does medicine expire? Do you take it or don't you? If you decide to take the aspirin, will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache?
This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Psychopharmacology Today offers some advice.
It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state if expired medicine is safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.
Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.
The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.


 
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I decided to post this article here. From time to time we receive questions about the expiration dates of our products. Whether expired products are effective and safe to use.
Below is the study from one of the most respected world-known universities (Harvard) saying that most drugs are good for up to 15 years past their expiration date.

I personally know several athletes who used our products years after their expired. They worked perfectly. For the sake of justice, it should be noted that we talk about products that were stored unopened under the recommended conditions.
So, if you, for some reason, did not manage to use a product within the planned time frame and the exp.date is close, its not a big deal at all. You can still use them if products were unopened and stored properly.
Of course we don`t talk about cases, when you opened a vial, used the half of it and kept another half for the next year. Such situations should be avoided.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/drug-expiration-dates-do-they-mean-anything

Drug Expiration Dates — Do They Mean Anything?

FDA study gets to the heart of medicine expiration and safety

Updated: August 13, 2017Published: November, 2003

ExpiredDrug_dreamstime_m_20278518.jpg
With a splitting headache, you reach into your medicine cabinet for some aspirin only to find the stamped expiration date on the medicine bottle is more than a year out of date. So, does medicine expire? Do you take it or don't you? If you decide to take the aspirin, will it be a fatal mistake or will you simply continue to suffer from the headache?
This is a dilemma many people face in some way or another. A column published in Psychopharmacology Today offers some advice.
It turns out that the expiration date on a drug does stand for something, but probably not what you think it does. Since a law was passed in 1979, drug manufacturers are required to stamp an expiration date on their products. This is the date at which the manufacturer can still guarantee the full potency and safety of the drug.
Most of what is known about drug expiration dates comes from a study conducted by the Food and Drug Administration at the request of the military. With a large and expensive stockpile of drugs, the military faced tossing out and replacing its drugs every few years. What they found from the study is 90% of more than 100 drugs, both prescription and over-the-counter, were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.
So the expiration date doesn't really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state if expired medicine is safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It's true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military. Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.
Is the expiration date a marketing ploy by drug manufacturers, to keep you restocking your medicine cabinet and their pockets regularly? You can look at it that way. Or you can also look at it this way: The expiration dates are very conservative to ensure you get everything you paid for. And, really, if a drug manufacturer had to do expiration-date testing for longer periods it would slow their ability to bring you new and improved formulations.
The next time you face the drug expiration date dilemma, consider what you've learned here. If the expiration date passed a few years ago and it's important that your drug is absolutely 100% effective, you might want to consider buying a new bottle. And if you have any questions about the safety or effectiveness of any drug, ask your pharmacist. He or she is a great resource when it comes to getting more information about your medications.




Thanks for the advice...
 

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Yo PH! What do you think of the following for a short, burst cycle?

1-3
375mg Deca e3d (875mg ew)
20mg Tbol ed
0.5 Caber e3d

4-5 100mg Test P e2d (350mg ew)
150mg Bold Ace e2d (525mg ew)
20mg Tbol ed
50mg Proviron ed
12.5mg Exemestane e2d

Yo, Pharmacom helper, what would your recommendation be for the above cycle?
What would your preference be between Clomiphene + HCG or Toremifene + HCG if the goal was to maintain FSH and LH levels.
 
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