Blood pressure

[brianwiley38]

I've been having mild grade headaches & been feeling off. My bp today was 198/98 but I took it again 15mins later it was 181/94. I've been hesitant about taking bp medications because if I get it back down I don't want to be it for life. Any advice I'm 55 6'0 198 about 12% bf.

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[Slayingmetal]

In before the " Drink more water " " reduce sodium " " take magnesium " comments.
Drink coconut water like Vita Coco or harmless harvest. Harmless harvest has over a gram of potassium each. Drink like 2 or 3 then check bp again. If it gets better its because a potassium issue. Then I can recommend you something hight in potassium minus without all the calories and shit.

 

[tommygunz]

Both of those values put you into hypertension status not even prehypertension. Thats seriously high, if you went to the ER they would hold you for observation and give you a beta blocker, echocardiogram and possibly a CT scan.

Homeopathic remedies will only touch the tip of the iceberg. You need medication pretty quick. See a doctor, get an echocardiogram, heart issues are nothing to self medicate.

The only AAS that has ever caused that in me is a lot of Tren. And that “I don’t want to be on meds” shtick could kill you. You’re already on meds and your body doesn’t appear to like it.

 

[Stanley B]

cardio does it for me. My pressure gets up there too. I run 5 miles 6 days a week and constantly 110/60. I’m 45. Trade off is I’ll never be one of the huge guys. That kinda sucks. Always wondered what it would be like to walk around like Dorian or Ronnie or the Mutan.

 

[tommygunz]

Hypertensive crisis: What are the symptoms?

A hypertensive crisis is a severe increase in blood pressure that can lead to a stroke.

www.mayoclinic.org

 

[Montego]

In before the " Drink more water " " reduce sodium " " take magnesium " comments.
Drink coconut water like Vita Coco or harmless harvest. Harmless harvest has over a gram of potassium each. Drink like 2 or 3 then check bp again. If it gets better its because a potassium issue. Then I can recommend you something hight in potassium minus without all the calories and shit.

Those first 3 things are so very valid suggestions for 99% of the population. Besides the sodium thing.... If water is high then sodium shouldn't be an issue unless your predisposed to HBP.

I would highly recommend Carditone to the OP. I have seen clients regularly drop 5-10 points on their reading average with the suggested dose. I did a double dose a few years back and my BP got too low after 2 weeks and I backed off to 1 a day. It's not a wonder drug, and in your case, I think meds would be needed since you're in the danger zone.

Lisinoprol (however it's spelled) is a very well received medication with most users not seeing much at all on terms of sides but, like anything, there could be.

I would absolutely go see your pcp though.... You're borderline stroke.

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[tommygunz]

Lisinoprol (however it's spelled) is a very well received medication with most users not seeing much at all on terms of sides but, like anything, there could be.

I would absolutely go see your pcp though.... You're borderline stroke.

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I registered a 190/119 and was hospitalized for 4 days at 54 years old. My heart was enlarged by 30% and I had heart valve stress.

OP, the reason you’re having headaches is because the blood vessels in your brain are being stressed.

I’ve been on 4-5 BP meds and the sides from all of them were minimal. I know a thing or two about them and they’re all symptom specific. They do not use an ARB for ACE symptoms and vice versa. CNS blockers and Beta blockers are not interchangeable either.

I’m still curious what he’s using monte.

 

[ordawg1]

Dont mess around with BP or you die fast .Carditone " can " drop it - but with where you are at -I am saying see your Doc and get on Lisinopril or other . You are way too high IMO -ignore it and you will be in an ambulance ( trust me ) just a fact ~

 

[Slayingmetal]

You guys are making things extremely complicated than it should be. I had high BP and I fixed it without any Rx.

 

[Slayingmetal]

Also theirs zero info about his lifestyle. We don't know nothing about his eating habits or nothing.

 

[Bolan]

You guys are making things extremely complicated than it should be. I had high BP and I fixed it without any Rx.

People... Like myself.... have High BP from genetics.
I have had high BP since I was in my early teens and on my 1st BP med at 17 yrs old... no gear and in very good cardiovascular shape from racing Motocross.
My father is on 3 different BP meds and Im on 2 different meds too.. Lisinopril and Metroponol.
So no... you cant fix BP issues by yourself if your genetics are like this.

 

[Wiseguy]

My friend 198/98 is extremely high and dangerous. This is not something you want to ignore. I would not hesitate a second seeing a doctor if my levels were that high. Good luck to you my friend.

 

[REHH]

My friend 198/98 is extremely high and dangerous. This is not something you want to ignore. I would not hesitate a second seeing a doctor if my levels were that high. Good luck to you my friend.

This

 

[CoachCabo]

I am 58 and two weeks ago my BP was 106/68 in the doctor’s office, so no “white coat syndrome” this time.
Last week I started just 150mg of tren acetate/week and now I am at 128/78. Before I could bring it back with 5mg ramipril per day. This time I got a deal at the farmacia on enalapril for three bottles for half the cost of one pack of ramipril. Not working as well and will probably got to ramipril again.

I freak out at anything near 130/80 and don’t know how so many people here walk around with number in this range and consider it normal. OP’s is through the roof and should not fuck around. Get to the doctor and get on meds. He may not want to be on them for life but his life won’t be as long with that BP.
Beside, I stopped the ACE inhibitors once I got off trenbolone in the past and went back to my normal 110/70 range.

 

[Bobbyg]

I've been having mild grade headaches & been feeling off. My bp today was 198/98 but I took it again 15mins later it was 181/94. I've been hesitant about taking bp medications because if I get it back down I don't want to be it for life. Any advice I'm 55 6'0 198 about 12% bf.

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My doc is a roid coach also and has me on blood pressure meds for high pressure… I’m 34 same size there is no bad side affects with it it’s just like a vitamin I’m starting hgh Thursday and bp meds don’t really mess with anything I’d get a doctors advice

 

[brianwiley38]

Yesterday I had collagen power, powdered greens, beet powder, EEA. 1 cup of coffee & that's it.
Meal 2 7 whole eggs 2 hours later
3 hours later I had a scoop of protein powder with a scoop of powdered greens.
Then I was going to workout at 5p but felt like shit from the headache. Took goodys powder but didn't do much if anything. Then I took my bp & it was through the roof. My wife wanted me to go to the er but I didn't. I skipped the workout & ate a salad with 80% ground beef & had a yogurt. I had this tightness in ny chest but i thought it could be from anxiety which i really dont have but i fell like i couldn't catch my breath so i took half a xanax that a buudy gave me & the pain in the chest went away. I haven't been going to the gym much becuse I travel for a living. So I do 10 circuits. 50 squats, 10 pull-ups, or curls if I don't have a bar., 50 push ups, 1 min plank, 50 pushups again. For 10 circuits I do that everyday & feel good. I'm not loading my joints it's a full body workout & it's like cardio also. I have soft abbs so I guess I'm around 12 or 15% idk.
I'm an disabled Army Veteran have alot of injuries & was in very good shape most of my life.
I ran out of vitamins so the only thing I'm taking is powdered greens, beet powder, eea & protein powder. I don't salt anything so it could be very well my potassium, calcium are low also salt intake should be low. High BP does run in my family as well as diabetes that's why I have little to no sugar because some peds can make me crash. That being said I don't think my diet is very well rounded but I haven't really been hungry. Been having mild grade headaches for a while, low energy, pee alot rapid hr.
I'm currently taking....
75 mg of ATIPP Ed
25 mg of tren ace Ed
50 mg var Ed
50 mg of glutathione Ed
250 mg of vit b12 Ed
450 mg of monster pump L-arginine, L-ornithine, L-citreuline, L-lysine, L-glicine......from AA
That's it.

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[Jbswole40]

In before the " Drink more water " " reduce sodium " " take magnesium " comments.
Drink coconut water like Vita Coco or harmless harvest. Harmless harvest has over a gram of potassium each. Drink like 2 or 3 then check bp again. If it gets better its because a potassium issue. Then I can recommend you something hight in potassium minus without all the calories and shit.

Gotta say this actually works for me.i get high BP during the day at work or extremely exhausted feeling coconut water actually will bring me back down & replinished,replenished, also has helped with high sodium & hi bp issues

 

[JJB1]

I've been having mild grade headaches & been feeling off. My bp today was 198/98 but I took it again 15mins later it was 181/94. I've been hesitant about taking bp medications because if I get it back down I don't want to be it for life. Any advice I'm 55 6'0 198 about 12% bf.

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I’m usually the guy who says fuck bp meds but those numbers are severe and not to be taken lightly. My only friend I talk to daily just died June 3rd. His bp numbers were like yours. His kidneys failed after years of blood pressure that high. This caused electrolyte issues and irregular heart rhythms. He went into cardiac arrest.
Get bp meds now. I understand not wanting to be a slave to bp drugs. I dropped 40Lbs in the last 9 months and I eat a super strict precontest diet year round now to keep my bp decent, not great. I don’t go to doctors. Can’t stand them. Don’t trust them. I get all my meds online from India. I’m just ordered the bp med, nebivolol, which is the generic for bystolic. It’s a third generation beta blocker with virtually no sides. I got a prescription here in the USA and that drug cost $1,300/month because a generic isn’t available here due to copyright laws. Online from India the generic cost me $57 for 90 of the highest dose 10mg tabs which you may only need 1/4 or 1/2 that per day. Another very popular bp med everyone is taking these days is telmisartan. Telmisartan didn’t work for me. It’s extremely safe and cheap online from India. I also take tadalifil(Cialis) which lowers my bp. I tried a dozen other bp meds and they didn’t work did me. One caused me literally a hundred injuries to skeletal muscle, tendons, and ligaments. It’s called Clonidine HCL. Avoid it like the plague. I used it for many years and it destroyed me body.
Don’t ignore your bp numbers. My friend was obsessed with being massive. He was the overall Mr. New Jersey bodybuilding champion around 7 years ago. I told him for a year to drop weight and be happy being shredded instead of huge but his obsession was mass. My obsession has always been being shredded. I was massive for several years but it was killing me.
I order my meds from alldaychemist.com
Ignore the “fax your prescription” stuff if you order and make up a fake doctor and phone number for them. Easy peasy!

 

[brianwiley38]

People... Like myself.... have High BP from genetics.
I have had high BP since I was in my early teens and on my 1st BP med at 17 yrs old... no gear and in very good cardiovascular shape from racing Motocross.
My father is on 3 different BP meds and Im on 2 different meds too.. Lisinopril and Metroponol.
So no... you cant fix BP issues by yourself if your genetics are like this.

Yeah it runs in my family I'm the only one not on it. I'm gonna see a dr asap I feel like shit man.

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[brianwiley38]

Also theirs zero info about his lifestyle. We don't know nothing about his eating habits or nothing.

Sorry I felt so bad last night I didn't feel like typing it up. I listed it below. Not eating alot, cutting a little weight & I'm not really that hungry. But I think I need to eat more well rounded.

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[brianwiley38]

Both of those values put you into hypertension status not even prehypertension. Thats seriously high, if you went to the ER they would hold you for observation and give you a beta blocker, echocardiogram and possibly a CT scan.

Homeopathic remedies will only touch the tip of the iceberg. You need medication pretty quick. See a doctor, get an echocardiogram, heart issues are nothing to self medicate.

The only AAS that has ever caused that in me is a lot of Tren. And that “I don’t want to be on meds” shtick could kill you. You’re already on meds and your body doesn’t appear to like it.

I'm not taking any bp meds brother. But I can't ignore this anymore.

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[brianwiley38]

Those first 3 things are so very valid suggestions for 99% of the population. Besides the sodium thing.... If water is high then sodium shouldn't be an issue unless your predisposed to HBP.

I would highly recommend Carditone to the OP. I have seen clients regularly drop 5-10 points on their reading average with the suggested dose. I did a double dose a few years back and my BP got too low after 2 weeks and I backed off to 1 a day. It's not a wonder drug, and in your case, I think meds would be needed since you're in the danger zone.

Lisinoprol (however it's spelled) is a very well received medication with most users not seeing much at all on terms of sides but, like anything, there could be.

I would absolutely go see your pcp though.... You're borderline stroke.

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My Mom, dad, brother & sister are all on bp meds. It's time for me to see a dr. .......thanks

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[brianwiley38]

Thanks guys for all the feed back y'all seem like a really good men who genuinely care about the welfare of the health of others! It doesn't go unnoticed!

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[zionoir626]

Thanks guys for all the feed back y'all seem like a really good men who genuinely care about the welfare of the health of others! It doesn't go unnoticed!

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We DO care about our Members..old and New..
Ex-Army as well...
Lots of Great advice..

Only Thing To Add...
Get those numbers down ASAP...
Then..
Figure out WHY..why isn't as important rightnow..but needs to be addressed..
That's a lot of gear too me..but I've seen more..without issues..
At your age...you have to stay on top of Markers and have a plan set in place..Not If..but When the markers start to rise..

I honestly believe..that most run without any idea of health concerns..Until they put you in the ER..or Worse..Remember if you don't take charge of your Health..Who Will..??
Z...

 

[CrispyDaGreat]

I registered a 190/119 and was hospitalized for 4 days at 54 years old. My heart was enlarged by 30% and I had heart valve stress.

OP, the reason you’re having headaches is because the blood vessels in your brain are being stressed.

I’ve been on 4-5 BP meds and the sides from all of them were minimal. I know a thing or two about them and they’re all symptom specific. They do not use an ARB for ACE symptoms and vice versa. CNS blockers and Beta blockers are not interchangeable either.

I’m still curious what he’s using monte.

Lisinopril has a higher incidence of adverse side effects namely severe swelling and weight gain in people of African Descent. I just wanted to add that on. And I am of African Descent and have taken at least 8 different hypertension medications in the last 14 years.

 

[CrispyDaGreat]

I've been having mild grade headaches & been feeling off. My bp today was 198/98 but I took it again 15mins later it was 181/94. I've been hesitant about taking bp medications because if I get it back down I don't want to be it for life. Any advice I'm 55 6'0 198 about 12% bf.

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By the way my BP has been in that range since 2008.

Seeing a doctor is the best course of action. The doctor will examine you to find the underlying cause of your hypertension and then prescribe medication based off of that cause. There are several potential causes of hypertension, for example: my hypertension is caused by my adrenal glands producing too much Aldosterone.

-please research the side effects of each and everyone of the individual medications that a doctor tries to prescribe to you. All medications have sides. For example: Aldactone/Spironolactone often causes Gynecomastia. Hydrochlorothiazide can cause hypokalemia. Just to name a few that I have actually experienced. And please also be aware of the contra-indications. My old doctor tried to prescibe a medication that interacted negatively with 5 of my other meds.

An excellent place to research potential meds and treatments is our old friend the National Institute of Health. I don't trust Uncle F. But the info is still good info. My doctors were going through the motions with my treatments until I mentioned that I read medical journals from the National Institute of Health and AHA regarding my meds and medical conditions. Never fails they always tighten up.

Nutrition wise: reduce intake of canned goods and processed meats. Reduce sodium in foods that you prepare.
On the Supplement side CoQ10 is excellent, Beet juice from beets or beet powder, might help some.

I wish you well and good health.

 

[CrispyDaGreat]

I’m usually the guy who says fuck bp meds but those numbers are severe and not to be taken lightly. My only friend I talk to daily just died June 3rd. His bp numbers were like yours. His kidneys failed after years of blood pressure that high. This caused electrolyte issues and irregular heart rhythms. He went into cardiac arrest.
Get bp meds now. I understand not wanting to be a slave to bp drugs. I dropped 40Lbs in the last 9 months and I eat a super strict precontest diet year round now to keep my bp decent, not great. I don’t go to doctors. Can’t stand them. Don’t trust them. I get all my meds online from India. I’m just ordered the bp med, nebivolol, which is the generic for bystolic. It’s a third generation beta blocker with virtually no sides. I got a prescription here in the USA and that drug cost $1,300/month because a generic isn’t available here due to copyright laws. Online from India the generic cost me $57 for 90 of the highest dose 10mg tabs which you may only need 1/4 or 1/2 that per day. Another very popular bp med everyone is taking these days is telmisartan. Telmisartan didn’t work for me. It’s extremely safe and cheap online from India. I also take tadalifil(Cialis) which lowers my bp. I tried a dozen other bp meds and they didn’t work did me. One caused me literally a hundred injuries to skeletal muscle, tendons, and ligaments. It’s called Clonidine HCL. Avoid it like the plague. I used it for many years and it destroyed me body.
Don’t ignore your bp numbers. My friend was obsessed with being massive. He was the overall Mr. New Jersey bodybuilding champion around 7 years ago. I told him for a year to drop weight and be happy being shredded instead of huge but his obsession was mass. My obsession has always been being shredded. I was massive for several years but it was killing me.
I order my meds from alldaychemist.com
Ignore the “fax your prescription” stuff if you order and make up a fake doctor and phone number for them. Easy peasy!

Omg, I'm taking that Clonidine right now.

 

[TheOldJJdigs]

So many people have given great advice but I still had to chime in here. And after reading some of the comments… a lot of guys have already said it but 198/98 isnt hypertension it’s off the charts. I would be scared to death if those were my numbers and I say that not to concern you but just so you fully understand… IMHO I know you might not like BP meds but I would say you need them right now.

A great documentary is Fat, Sick and nearly Dead. I’ve watched it 5 times. The idea is excessive however it might be something you could look into. It worked for him… or at least incorporate pieces of what he did and put that into your diet. Doing that plus the BP meds might just save your life amigo.

I hope you’re okay and you’re getting on a better path brother.

JJ

 

[Jbswole40]

Right bros tracking bp is very important.u Def want to look at&adjust things you doing before jumping on meds imo.meds will just be a bandaid on the problem.

 

[JJB1]

Omg, I'm taking that Clonidine right now.

Haha oh man! I’m a walking injury thanks to that drug.