Anxiety from TEST - EQ - NPP

[FitnessMcGee]

Hey guys,

I am running 600 Sust 400 EQ 300 NPP and I started to develop some anxiety/panic attack episodes. I have the mental tools to cope, but I am curious if this would be from the EQ or NPP?

 

[Glycomann]

The dose seems average by today's standard but maybe you are sensitive to the combo. I would let it run another 2 weeks to see if I adjust. if not I would drop the dose 30%.

 

[Matt88]

If you have not ran those 2 compounds individually with test then it`s just a guessing game essentially. I personally get some depression with NPP or Deca but not anxiety specifically . I have not ran EQ as of yet to comment on it. This is why it is always best to not start 2 new compounds at once bc when side effects happen you don`t have a way to know if its from compound A or compound B.

If it comes down to it I would pull out the NPP first bc it is the much shorter ester and you will know quicker. If it is the EQ you are in for a long ride due to how long the half life is. Glad to hear you have the mental tools to help though. That is a game changer without a doubt. Not having those things when you really need them is just the worst.

Goodluck!

 

[cdubw44]

20 bucks says it's the EQ.

 

[TotalWar]

EQ brother. Common side for some guys. I can't even run it over 400. I literally have nights where I don't sleep an hour cuz of the stupid anxiety; ND I know there's no reason to have it, it's literally a physiological and neurological response. I too have the skills to cope, I'm a fuckin therapist and I still have no desire to deal with that. It's too disruptive to me. So I've laid off EQ. Some evidence says it depletes GABA and fucks with gaba receptors. Gaba supplement 1400ng a day helped clear it but gaba gave me awful dreams lmao violent shit, blood torture the whole bit. Gross. That can be a side of GABA supplement, nightmares. So drop the EQ if you don't get used to it; it git worse for me the more I raised the dose at first not realizing it was the EQ

 

[Rot-Iron66]

Hormones can cause this at any dose, all depending on the person...
I notice I get more anxious on even 1 CC of test... When I drop back down to 1/2 a cc, all is fine..

 

[Astro95]

Like stated above, money on the EQ. Lower it or drop it.

 

[TotalWar]

Yeah and everyone is different for sure...I can run infinite amounts of test with no anxuety; the more test I run the better I feel (I don't do like a gram or anything but I've run 700) whereas deca makes me a depressed and anxious basketcase. Crazy individual differences in this hormone game

 

[Astro95]

Yeah and everyone is different for sure...I can run infinite amounts of test with no anxuety; the more test I run the better I feel (I don't do like a gram or anything but I've run 700) whereas deca makes me a depressed and anxious basketcase. Crazy individual differences in this hormone game

Yep, I run 750 test feel great. Nandrolone 5-600 zero issues. EQ at 750 not all the time, but sometimes I’ll be at a meeting and get awfully anxious before speaking LOL as opposed to Test and Tren I wanna give everyone a speech and to no be such pussies lmfao

 

[Glycomann]

How many of you guys in this thread are on some form of psych med?

 

[DidrikMTG]

ive never taken psych meds. that being said if you asked me to describe a psych med I would say masteron and proviron make me very mellow

 

[cdubw44]

How many of you guys in this thread are on some form of psych med?

Should be but they let me roam around freely. Ha!

 

[Meetketchup]

EQ and NPP? Basically taking two compounds together that can individually cause anxiety.

 

[JD1155]

Drop EQ all day. Not worth anxiety for me

 

[Bolan]

20 bucks says it's the EQ.

Agree... I never had anxiety until I ran EQ

 

[Bolan]

How many of you guys in this thread are on some form of psych med?

If you consider weed a psych med, then friggin right!! Im on meds!!!!

 

[DidrikMTG]

oh me too I smoke psych meds daily

 

[Glycomann]

If you consider weed a psych med, then friggin right!! Im on meds!!!!

I was just talking to a guy in his 90s that spent a career at NIH. We were talking about all the psychological illnesses today versus 40 years ago. The difference is just immense. I know so many people on psych meds that never get better. I really don't think these drugs as a class do any net positive. I really don't. I posed the question because, although EQ is considered a risk for anxiety, I am just seeing depression and anxiety massively all around me and everybody is on a hand full of these meds. One is an 8 year old. Imagine a pediatrician putting an 8 year old on drugs that will alter neurotransmitter levels in a poorly understood way in a developing brain because some consensus said it's OK to treat a child as such.

 

[Ziath11]

I was just talking to a guy in his 90s that spent a career at NIH. We were talking about all the psychological illnesses today versus 40 years ago. The difference is just immense. I know so many people on psych meds that never get better. I really don't think these drugs as a class do any net positive. I really don't. I posed the question because, although EQ is considered a risk for anxiety, I am just seeing depression and anxiety massively all around me and everybody is on a hand full of these meds. One is an 8 year old. Imagine a pediatrician putting an 8 year old on drugs that will alter neurotransmitter levels in a poorly understood way in a developing brain because some consensus said it's OK to treat a child as such.

Now that’s some fucked up shit. To me they’re just a bandaid that doesn’t change the root cause.

 

[ordawg1]

It's the EQ is my bet -I too think psyc meds are worthless and just make things worse

 

[TotalWar]

I work with prescribers of these meds; won't take them and my patients are not on meds as I focus purely on learning coping skills and moving through trauma in therapy; then the patient is healed. No meds , although there are people with serious clinical depression that have neurotransmitter issues and anti depressants 100% help change their life. At the same time they're ridiculously overprescribed and fuck people up worse than dont need them. But there are people who actually need them

 

[Bolan]

I was just talking to a guy in his 90s that spent a career at NIH. We were talking about all the psychological illnesses today versus 40 years ago. The difference is just immense. I know so many people on psych meds that never get better. I really don't think these drugs as a class do any net positive. I really don't. I posed the question because, although EQ is considered a risk for anxiety, I am just seeing depression and anxiety massively all around me and everybody is on a hand full of these meds. One is an 8 year old. Imagine a pediatrician putting an 8 year old on drugs that will alter neurotransmitter levels in a poorly understood way in a developing brain because some consensus said it's OK to treat a child as such.

Crazy

 

[rawbuilt]

if its from the EQ could be because blood is too thick which can cause anxiety

try donate blood

 

[FitnessMcGee]

Yep, I run 750 test feel great. Nandrolone 5-600 zero issues. EQ at 750 not all the time, but sometimes I’ll be at a meeting and get awfully anxious before speaking LOL as opposed to Test and Tren I wanna give everyone a speech and to no be such pussies lmfao

This is very relatable because I give a lot of presentations myself! It is definitely not all the time but for 10 minutes here and there

 

[FitnessMcGee]

How many of you guys in this thread are on some form of psych med?

I take zoloft 50mg and it is losing the anxiety battle haha. Only 10 minute spurts of anxiety here and there

 

[Fletcher]

Hey guys,

I am running 600 Sust 400 EQ 300 NPP and I started to develop some anxiety/panic attack episodes. I have the mental tools to cope, but I am curious if this would be from the EQ or NPP?

Most likely the EQ. I cant use it anymore bc of that.

 

[Onidus]

Eq definitely caused me anxiety, I won't run it anymore because of it.

 

[TotalWar]

Love the knowledge and convo bros. We helped a bro most likely isolate the cause of the anxiety. Love asf! JUICE BOARDS! SILVERBACK GORILLA BRO SCIENTISTS LFG

 

[Onidus]

Love the knowledge and convo bros. We helped a bro most likely isolate the cause of the anxiety. Love asf! JUICE BOARDS! SILVERBACK GORILLA BRO SCIENTISTS LFG

This place is wonderful with so much knowledge and experience and so many helpful bros 💪

 

[Deeman]

I was just talking to a guy in his 90s that spent a career at NIH. We were talking about all the psychological illnesses today versus 40 years ago. The difference is just immense. I know so many people on psych meds that never get better. I really don't think these drugs as a class do any net positive. I really don't. I posed the question because, although EQ is considered a risk for anxiety, I am just seeing depression and anxiety massively all around me and everybody is on a hand full of these meds. One is an 8 year old. Imagine a pediatrician putting an 8 year old on drugs that will alter neurotransmitter levels in a poorly understood way in a developing brain because some consensus said it's OK to treat a child as such.

This is crazy shit. But its real. A ton of people these days totally agree with letting their kids be drugged. Wtf. I have a family member allowing the shit to happen. It makes me sick. I guess there no such thing these days of having high strung kids.