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Addiction Potential of TRT?

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Don’t mean to hijack the thread but holy crap!
I’m 46
I been on clomid about 6 months now.
My eyesight has gone completely to shit.
I went from the weakest readers you can buy to 3.25 in a year.
I can’t even read a text message without glasses.
Thank you for the informative post.

fwiw....that's about when my vision went to shit and it wasn't clomid. Getting old sucks. Hopefully it's just the clomid for you. :winkfinger:
 

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Totally agree that hard drug( heroin,cocaine) addiction is TOTALLY different than any kinda therapy from doing steroids. There's just no comparison to the 2. ANY addiction I have to steroids, whether it's trt or cycling is totally a choice I made with a clear mind- not the slow suicide that I knew was killing me w/ hard drugs. IMO u are WAY overanalyzing this whole scenario. Test replacement therapy will do nothing but help your overall health- that's a proven fact. And even if u do decide to do a cycle, it in no way means u are addicted to steroids or that u ever will be. Just my VERY EXPERIENCED opinion. ( and I mean w/ both). Either way-good luck too you man
 

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This isn't really a question on anything related to training, or how to get/use peds or anything like that. I'm new here, and haven't posted much yet - and I wasn't sure where to put this one, so I'm just posting it under the general discussion forum for my age group.

I detailed in another thread what got me to start looking into testosterone supplementation, and what I've done in preparation of starting a TRT protocol with or without help from my doctor. But after that post, I started going and looking at posts from other people who replied to my questions and I ran across multiple forum threads on addiction. One thread in particular from zionoir626 ( looks like a well known poster on here ) got my attention, and I think it's worth a read. "The Dark Side of PEDs..." was the thread title if anyone wants to hunt it down in the AAS Zone thread.

Anyway, I have to admit, until reading those I'd never considered the possibility that testosterone / PEDs had the potential to be addictive. Prior to registering here at ASF to ask some questions, I'd spent hours researching TRT on pubmed, youtube, various forums including this one - and most of what I saw was pretty matter of fact, saying stuff like this is healthly, you'll feel better, and I've pretty well convinced myself that it's safe and effective at the doses I am considering. I do understand that it's a long term commitment, i.e. once you start generally you're on it for life, but I've been thinking of it more like insulin for diabetics or thyroid hormones for people with hypothyroidism. Like you're supplementing something that your body is not managing correctly, not chasing some ephemeral 'high'.

Like many people, I have a history of addiction. Not too long ago (in the grand scheme of things) I recovered from what I would consider a serious drug problem... I won't go into details, but the amount of product that I either insulfated or injected was considerable. I wasn't some guy who partied a little on the weekend, it was daily habit and out of control for about two years. 2015 & 2016 specifically, not that it matters. Even now there's not a day that goes by that I don't think about drugs, whether it's just a cigarette or something way harder... but I have made changes in my life and choices that have kept me clean, and I am resolute that I will never again sink to that low.

Which gets me to my question. Am I wrong to be thinking about TRT as a medical treatment? I guess what I really want to know is it 'hard' to stay on a TRT program of 200 mg of Test a week? Like, I've never wanted to look like any of the big "mass monster" guys like you see in the IFPB - so the idea of even starting down the path of taking GH, Tren, etc when all I'm trying to do is feel better seems silly now. But you know, I got into hard recreational drugs after I started smoking and drinking... and I didn't plan on that, so I can see how it's that far fetched that after starting Testosterone I'd want to take more and more potent things. The phrase "gateway drug" exists for a reason I suppose.

Anyway, I guess it just got me thinking. Rationally I'm of the opinion that since TRT doesn't provide any sort of dopamine rush ( like the popular rec drugs do ) the potential for addiction, at least in the way that I've experienced addiction, is low. Like, is there any statistic available for what percentage of guys go from TRT to running insane cycles with crazy stacks and liver failure?

Totally agree that hard drug( heroin,cocaine) addiction is TOTALLY different than any kinda therapy from doing steroids. There's just no comparison to the 2. ANY addiction I have to steroids, whether it's trt or cycling is totally a choice I made with a clear mind- not the slow suicide that I knew was killing me w/ hard drugs. IMO u are WAY overanalyzing this whole scenario. Test replacement therapy will do nothing but help your overall health- that's a proven fact. And even if u do decide to do a cycle, it in no way means u are addicted to steroids or that u ever will be. Just my VERY EXPERIENCED opinion. ( and I mean w/ both). Either way-good luck too you man
One other thing man. I just remembered u mentioning tren if u did happen to try a cycle. IMO tren is a totally different animal than any other aas. This is just my opinion/ experience. Tren is by far the most potent steroid there is. And to a lot of guys this is a good thing and it was to me too when I was younger and had plenty of cycles of other aas under my belt. BUT I learned the hard way that it treated me totally different as an older guy. I learned that I couldn't handle the MANY sides that come w/ it. It's the only aas that gave me SEVERE anxiety almost to the point of being suicidal. So if u do decide to try cycling, be very careful and if I were u, try other compounds ( test, deca, d-bol, var etc) first. And if u do try tren, be very conservative w/ your dose until u see how it treats u. Most would simply try test first and then add maybe d- bol if desired. Not trying to tell u what to do or not do, but whatever u do, don't just jump right into tren w/o experiencing w/ some other compounds first. As for me, I will NEVER put it into my body again. Just my opinion bro. Again good luck too u whatever u decide. And remember steroids are not narcotics, not even in the same ballpark- no cravings or rushes or any of that nonsense. I've gone 10 years between cycles so.....( 58 yrs old now- did first cycle @ 22). Didn't mean to go into a rant, or a life story, just trying to keep u from making the same mistakes I did. Hope it helps a little. Take care and take it slow bro.
 
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