A rookie over 70

[Ghost Dog]

New to the game, I'm experimenting, going low and slow. My schedule consists of 25 mg of clomid daily and 50 mg of test per week. I know this is minimal, but I just want a little boost, not an overhaul. There is at least one research study that found a 75% response rate to this regimen in guys my age.

I am a runner and all around fitness buff. I'm lucky that my joints have held up, allowing me to do intervals. The exhilaration I get from running is one of those things that make life worth living. I'm sure you guys get the same rush from weights. The idea is to keep going, Don't stop and don't slow down. And if you need some additives, some artificial enhancements, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a little test or THC..

 

[HFO3]

Welcome to ASF

 

[zionoir626]

Welcome..
Z...

 

[220]

Welcome

 

[SF22]

Welcome brother!

 

[Ghost Dog]

Thanks, guys.

 

[zionoir626]

We formed this sub for older guys that still push it..we address concerns like A1C..diet at above 50...and just about anything that is a concern at an older age..It is,I think useful to younger members to see how us old farts are still at IT..
Z...

 

[TheOldJJdigs]

Welcome to the board!

 

[Redbird51]

Welcome!

 

[wesley_swolle]

New to the game, I'm experimenting, going low and slow. My schedule consists of 25 mg of clomid daily and 50 mg of test per week. I know this is minimal, but I just want a little boost, not an overhaul. There is at least one research study that found a 75% response rate to this regimen in guys my age.

I am a runner and all around fitness buff. I'm lucky that my joints have held up, allowing me to do intervals. The exhilaration I get from running is one of those things that make life worth living. I'm sure you guys get the same rush from weights. The idea is to keep going, Don't stop and don't slow down. And if you need some additives, some artificial enhancements, there's absolutely nothing wrong with a little test or THC..

Welcome! I'm curious, is this regime of clomid and micro dose test doctor ordered/supervised?

 

[Multislacking]

Welcome! I'm curious, is this regime of clomid and micro dose test doctor ordered/supervised?

This. 50mg of test is below minimal, in my opinion. Way below. Better than nothing, I guess if your natural test level was 0 starting out. Even if this is doctor ordered...what KIND of doctor? Is it someone who knows their stuff or some general/nurse practitioner winging a guess cause they read it one time in some article? If it were me...ditch the clomid and go straight to 150mg of test EW and see where things stand. Tried and true TRT.

OP...what was your natural test level before getting any meds?

 

[dale.c]

Welcome aboard sir

 

[Ghost Dog]

Welcome! I'm curious, is this regime of clomid and micro dose test doctor ordered/supervised?

No, this comes from months of independent research, including extensive reading on this site.

 

[zionoir626]

Well..got to say...I'm with Multi..
Between 150 to 200 will usually bring you to a normal(in your 20's) range..Not saying 50mgs wouldn't help,but...Well I just won't say..

But glad as Hell to have you on Board
No pun..!
Z...

 

[Ghost Dog]

This. 50mg of test is below minimal, in my opinion. Way below. Better than nothing, I guess if your natural test level was 0 starting out. Even if this is doctor ordered...what KIND of doctor? Is it someone who knows their stuff or some general/nurse practitioner winging a guess cause they read it one time in some article? If it were me...ditch the clomid and go straight to 150mg of test EW and see where things stand. Tried and true TRT.

OP...what was your natural test level before getting any meds?

Before arriving at this clomid/50 mg regimen, I read any number of papers on PubMed, my go-to source for all things medical. Some of the data are inconclusive and some are contradictory, but on the whole what I have learned there is of very high value. I'm not looking to get jacked. I'd be happy to stay where I am for another 5-10 years, if that is possible. I'd like to load up with a higher dose of test, but I know from experience that 150 mg would increase my blood pressure. Hence, I am supplementing the low-dose T with clomid. This combination has had some success. Clomid alone has been known to double the amount of free T.

My natural test is about 300.

 

[zionoir626]

There are many options..many compounds and applications..
I'd recommend some research on Deca for joint pain and look at Max's log..He's at the top of his class and I'm quite sure he can help you in..Many ways..
Z...

 

[SF22]

Don't want to pile on the drop clomid train. However, I think some HCG would serve you better

 

[Multislacking]

Before arriving at this clomid/50 mg regimen, I read any number of papers on PubMed, my go-to source for all things medical. Some of the data are inconclusive and some are contradictory, but on the whole what I have learned there is of very high value. I'm not looking to get jacked. I'd be happy to stay where I am for another 5-10 years, if that is possible. I'd like to load up with a higher dose of test, but I know from experience that 150 mg would increase my blood pressure. Hence, I am supplementing the low-dose T with clomid. This combination has had some success. Clomid alone has been known to double the amount of free T.

My natural test is about 300.

Fair enough. I recommend checking your levels again in 6-8 weeks and see where you are at. I'm sure your research has pointed to some guys having negative side effects from clomid.

 

[Ghost Dog]

Fair enough. I recommend checking your levels again in 6-8 weeks and see where you are at. I'm sure your research has pointed to some guys having negative side effects from clomid.

You're right. Clomid is not a panacea.

I think some HCG would serve you better

I will have to look into that. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[tommygunz]

My natural test is about 300.

50mg of test is not supplementation, it's probably detrimental as exogenous test will decrease your lutenizing hormone and tend to shut down you're natural production given time.

 

[Ghost Dog]

I know there are risks. But for the first time in a while, I woke up today with morning wood.

 

[SF22]

I know there are risks. But for the first time in a while, I woke up today with morning wood.

Great feeling for sure

 

[Charliehorse]

I know there are risks. But for the first time in a while, I woke up today with morning wood.

lol, awesome....good luck on your journey brother

 

[Bluntson]

Badass. Welcome brother Ghost Dog.
Another option you might look into is lower dose cialis + proviron.
Even 5mg cialis + 25mg proviron per day could majorly up your free test numbers.
Of course only bloodwork will tell. Everybody is different. Every body responds different.
Love the name btw.
Hang loose brother.

 

[Bigjay73]

Great thread, hope I'm as motivated as you at 70.....If 50mgs and clomid are working, stick with it, easy to increase the dose if need be

 

[Ghost Dog]

I think some HCG would serve you better

It seems to have a lower side-effect profile than TRT, but why do you personally recommend it? I read on another thread that a fairly standard dose is 500 IUs per week. What results could I expect from 500 IUs? IM or subcutaneous?

Thanks.

 

[Bohdi Bray]

Don't want to pile on the drop clomid train. However, I think some HCG would serve you better

 

[Wiseguy]

Badass. Welcome brother Ghost Dog.
Another option you might look into is lower dose cialis + proviron.
Even 5mg cialis + 25mg proviron per day could majorly up your free test numbers.
Of course only bloodwork will tell. Everybody is different. Every body responds different.
Love the name btw.
Hang loose brother.

This is what I would do for sure. Hope you have a girlfriend or wife that is ready for sex several times a week.

 

[Ghost Dog]

Badass. Welcome brother Ghost Dog.
Another option you might look into is lower dose cialis + proviron.
Even 5mg cialis + 25mg proviron per day could majorly up your free test numbers.
Of course only bloodwork will tell. Everybody is different. Every body responds different.
Love the name btw.
Hang loose brother.

This is what I would do for sure. Hope you have a girlfriend or wife that is ready for sex several times a week.

Another option to consider. Thanks. I'll have to do my homework, comparing the risk/reward ratio of TRT, HCG, and proviron.

 

[Bluntson]

The cialis + proviron would be done alongside your TRT.
I am on trt for life (200mg/week), but even at your 50mg/week you would see considerable results.
Especially your free test numbers.
And plus you'll be popping boners left and right. Gotta love that!