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    Sub q injections

    Can someone explain to me why everytime I inject sub q i get lump and it's really itchy? I've tried gso and mct oils can I be allergic to 2 different oils or am I injecting wrong ?

    Injecting .25iu of test cyp in stomach

    Thanks for any help!

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    No such thing as .25iu of testosterone. Test comes in Mgs per mL.

    If you get a lump you may not be injecting deep enough or the gear can be dirty or you can be allergic to the oil, or BA%. There are a million variables here.

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    Yea my phone will do a . Instead of space sometimes, but 2 different sources and 2 different oils . Both sources are on here.

    Doing 60mgs

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    You shouldnt be injecting test subq. It has very very poor absorption. Most of it goes to waste. They are also painful and cause lumps as you described Why go subq over IM?

    If you dont believe me you can get bloodwork... then get bloodwork with injecting with an inch needle in your a proper body part and compare the levels. You'll see a 2x-4x + difference in levels when you inject it IM.

    Even injecting your muscle with a needle that is not longer enough will affect its absorption.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpal View Post
    You shouldnt be injecting test subq. It has very very poor absorption. Most of it goes to waste. They are also painful and cause lumps as you described Why go subq over IM?

    If you dont believe me you can get bloodwork... then get bloodwork with injecting with an inch needle in your a proper body part and compare the levels. You'll see a 2x-4x + difference in levels when you inject it IM.

    Even injecting your muscle with a needle that is not longer enough will affect its absorption.
    I think alot of people will beg to differ

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    The only people who beg to differ are the people who dont perform bloodwork with both methods. Because if they try getting bloodwork with subq injections. And then inject themselves IM for 5 weeks and get bloodwork they will see at how much higher the levels are. Trust me from a decade of experience who tried to take shortcuts because of all the scar tissue i have built up over the years. subq injections have very bad absorption. I have also heard from others that used 1/4" needles of insulin syringes into their muscles(not long enough) that their levels were lower than they were when they switched to 1 inch needles from pharma test prescribed to them

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    Over on pro m there is a thread explaining how sub q is actually a great way as long as ur using low doses and injecting daily or every other day...

    It is a great way for trt, i used it for yrs, until i stopped trt about 1-2 yrs ago due to my own health issues

    Ill find a few articles about sub q vs intra

    Yes oily substances are recommended to be used i.m. but as of late sub q has been shown to really be a great way to go....


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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/28379417/

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    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5686655/

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    https://www.gertitashkomd.com/blog/2...stosterone-pen

    Test e sub q approved by fda

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    Interesting studies but the studies dont compare the individuals test levels with subq injections VS IM injections. I wish they did. Because i know from my experience My levels doubled when i switched from a 1/4th inch insulin needle to an inch needle with pharma test due to better absorption. Granted I never injected in my stomach fat nor did i inject everyday, So I am not sure if that played a roll? But I really did see double test levels when switching to a longer needle with pharma test. (once a week injections)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpal View Post
    Interesting studies but the studies dont compare the individuals test levels with subq injections VS IM injections. I wish they did. Because i know from my experience My levels doubled when i switched from a 1/4th inch insulin needle to an inch needle with pharma test due to better absorption. Granted I never injected in my stomach fat nor did i inject everyday, So I am not sure if that played a roll? But I really did see double test levels when switching to a longer needle with pharma test. (once a week injections)
    Yeah that could be true, im seeing guys range anywhere between 677 total test on only 10 mlg per day all the way to 1200 total test depending on how their bodies use it up, and if they are doing 20 mlg e day to every other day....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpal View Post
    Interesting studies but the studies dont compare the individuals test levels with subq injections VS IM injections. I wish they did. Because i know from my experience My levels doubled when i switched from a 1/4th inch insulin needle to an inch needle with pharma test due to better absorption. Granted I never injected in my stomach fat nor did i inject everyday, So I am not sure if that played a roll? But I really did see double test levels when switching to a longer needle with pharma test. (once a week injections)
    So total test depends a lot on 2 things when doing sub q

    How much ur pinning

    How quickly ur body converts the test or uses it etc... Switching it to estrogen etc....

    I am considering getting back on at low dosages eod, or ed.... Depending on ester and if i want to become a pin cushion haha

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jpal View Post
    You shouldnt be injecting test subq. It has very very poor absorption. Most of it goes to waste. They are also painful and cause lumps as you described Why go subq over IM?

    If you dont believe me you can get bloodwork... then get bloodwork with injecting with an inch needle in your a proper body part and compare the levels. You'll see a 2x-4x + difference in levels when you inject it IM.

    Even injecting your muscle with a needle that is not longer enough will affect its absorption.
    Where is the ester bolus going if it's not metabolized and absorbed into the bloodstream? Eliminated directly as an ester? I'd expect absorption to be slower but not to actually lose the drug unless you get a permanent sterile abscess.

    I haven't tried SQ of T myself beyond an experimental pin or two... no regimen. I'll have to give that a go and compare the same gear with IM, same labs protocol etc.

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    I thought the same thing which is why i was using a 1/4inch needle at the time. From everything that I have read online, it would get absorbed eventually but longer time to do so. However, I did bloodwork and i think i had 600-800 levels with 250 mg of pharma test e a week. Switched to an inch needle and levels were 1500ish after 5 weeks. (on the 8th day post injection)

    Hence why my original posts were very anti subq due to my bad personal experience with it. If you ever do experiment with it, I look forward to hear of your results if you pin subq for 6 weeks. Then try IM and compare the levels. But try to only pin subq once a week. If others are doing it successfully perhaps everyday subq injections are superior to once a week injections if doing subq

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