Yeah man- pretty much everything said on this thread so far is speculation. If u stay in this game, u will have ups and downs. And u will deal w/ a helluva lot more than 3 labs. Probably dealt w/ in the 20 range- they come and go for diff. reasons. Personally never tried JP, but wouldn't hesitate too after seeing many excellent reviews from guys that I know know what they're talking about. I will say that I've NEVER done a cycle that I didn't FEEL anything in 4 weeks. I'm thinking u have some other issue- and NOT gonna speculate on what it might be. But in the future, maybe try and stay calm until u figure it out. And not sure how much deca ur doing, but I would add some mast. or provi if ur planning on beating off 4 times a day(or fucking for that matter). And not sure why ur doing test/deca/primo. Imo ur wasting the primo. Drop it and go back to the d-bol(nobody sells bunk d-bol-especially JP-it's too cheap) Anyway- good luck bro- and very interested to see what the REAL problem is. (if u don't grow on test/deca/ d-bol- something's def. wrong)