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Just about the majority of medications including anabolic steroids that are injectables and orals, have a relatively long lifespan.. the expiration date is just something that was implemented by the FDA to basically give a time span for the safe practice and and Overstock value which was put into place by the United States military with an investigation back in the mid-70s...

Researchers and medical facilities worldwide have conducted multiple tests on numerous medications and found that even decades after expiration date they still possessed almost there full potential in which they were labeled at.. however there is exceptions with certain medications that are extremely sensitive and delicate but you would need to look up those medications..

Someone would really need to have these medications including steroids in some pretty piss poor environments such as constant exposure to UV lighting, habitual exposure to hot and cold temperatures repeatedly, even then the hormone will not degrade significantly but most likely just fall out of its position (crash).. like I said when it pertains to anabolic steroids is there actual real shelf life can be up to decades exceeding 10 years and even up to 15 years..

If you wish to discontinue your protocol, and even whatever you have in your stock it is wise to keep them at room temperature and away from direct light.. that is why some medication will be dispensed inside of Amber vials or plastic bottles, to protect from UV lighting... Our partner that networks with us here at Euro Pharmacy they are known as pivotal labs they see and recognize this Hazard and they have Resort it back to using Amber vials just for this reason.. a lot of Laboratories like to go with the clean crisp look, because people have a sense of security when they're able to look at their contents but if you know and trust your lab you can rest assure that your contents are safe on the interior that is why pivotal labs operates with the highest standard and they chose to use Amber vials to assure greater quality and product integrity..

Simple Rules gentleman:
Store all of your unused contents away from direct light, and avoid extreme climate differences weather hot or cold.. room temperature is the best setting and avoid exposure to moisture..

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How many year past the expiration date would one day would be still "useable" would 5 - 7 be too much?
 
And if still in doubt about expired gear you can send them all to me and I will try them and report back to you if they were still good or not.
Part of me wants to take you up on it lol I have extra of the same batch of test e I bought and forgot to use about 7 years ago.
 
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Just about the majority of medications including anabolic steroids that are injectables and orals, have a relatively long lifespan.. the expiration date is just something that was implemented by the FDA to basically give a time span for the safe practice and and Overstock value which was put into place by the United States military with an investigation back in the mid-70s...

Researchers and medical facilities worldwide have conducted multiple tests on numerous medications and found that even decades after expiration date they still possessed almost there full potential in which they were labeled at.. however there is exceptions with certain medications that are extremely sensitive and delicate but you would need to look up those medications..

Someone would really need to have these medications including steroids in some pretty piss poor environments such as constant exposure to UV lighting, habitual exposure to hot and cold temperatures repeatedly, even then the hormone will not degrade significantly but most likely just fall out of its position (crash).. like I said when it pertains to anabolic steroids is there actual real shelf life can be up to decades exceeding 10 years and even up to 15 years..


If you wish to discontinue your protocol, and even whatever you have in your stock it is wise to keep them at room temperature and away from direct light.. that is why some medication will be dispensed inside of Amber vials or plastic bottles, to protect from UV lighting... Our partner that networks with us here at Euro Pharmacy they are known as pivotal labs they see and recognize this Hazard and they have Resort it back to using Amber vials just for this reason.. a lot of Laboratories like to go with the clean crisp look, because people have a sense of security when they're able to look at their contents but if you know and trust your lab you can rest assure that your contents are safe on the interior that is why pivotal labs operates with the highest standard and they chose to use Amber vials to assure greater quality and product integrity..

Simple Rules gentleman:
Store all of your unused contents away from direct light, and avoid extreme climate differences weather hot or cold.. room temperature is the best setting and avoid exposure to moisture..




I need to try the meds in that pic! ! No joke , I used decade old gear for my first cycles and it worked fine! It was amps & blister packed orals but it worked 100%!

Max
 
How many year past the expiration date would one day would be still "useable" would 5 - 7 be too much?

For oils, yes it would be fair to assume that 5 years is a bit long, we also need to consider that carrier oils themselves also have a half life and shelf life.
Especially if they are a food derivative..

If someone purchased a product and it was a new release from the batch, that's 3 years right there, if they hold on to that for an extended 5 years after the expiration, it might be in there better interest to just toss them. But a couple years after expiration, meh, still good.

Orals however have some pretty good hang Time.
 
in my experience they dont expire at all asl long as they stay in a climate controlled dark area. Ive used old ass AAS and it worked normally as far as I could tell
 
For oils, yes it would be fair to assume that 5 years is a bit long, we also need to consider that carrier oils themselves also have a half life and shelf life.
Especially if they are a food derivative..

If someone purchased a product and it was a new release from the batch, that's 3 years right there, if they hold on to that for an extended 5 years after the expiration, it might be in there better interest to just toss them. But a couple years after expiration, meh, still good.

Orals however have some pretty good hang Time.

So raws hold longer than oils? I often think about the apocalypse and how fucked I’ll be if I can’t atleast find some test… better get the doomsday stash going if it has a nice shelf life.
 
Raws should theoretically last a long, long time... Especially void of oxygen, light and heat... the problem with oils is that oil goes rancid over time... could you still use it? Probably. You're not eating it.
 
So raws hold longer than oils? I often think about the apocalypse and how fucked I’ll be if I can’t atleast find some test… better get the doomsday stash going if it has a nice shelf life.

Raws would assumably last much much longer.
Depending on its storage.
For the carrier oils, we need to bear in mind that the fatty acids Begin to deteriorate, Fall apart therefore their usability and stability deteriorates and it's a Cascade of events thereafter. They will spoil and go rancid.
And whatever is married into that solution will become unstable itself.
Dry raws and orals tabs will far exceed oils and syrups.
Well in regards to medications in general.
 
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Just about the majority of medications including anabolic steroids that are injectables and orals, have a relatively long lifespan.. the expiration date is just something that was implemented by the FDA to basically give a time span for the safe practice and and Overstock value which was put into place by the United States military with an investigation back in the mid-70s...

Researchers and medical facilities worldwide have conducted multiple tests on numerous medications and found that even decades after expiration date they still possessed almost there full potential in which they were labeled at.. however there is exceptions with certain medications that are extremely sensitive and delicate but you would need to look up those medications..

Someone would really need to have these medications including steroids in some pretty piss poor environments such as constant exposure to UV lighting, habitual exposure to hot and cold temperatures repeatedly, even then the hormone will not degrade significantly but most likely just fall out of its position (crash).. like I said when it pertains to anabolic steroids is there actual real shelf life can be up to decades exceeding 10 years and even up to 15 years..


If you wish to discontinue your protocol, and even whatever you have in your stock it is wise to keep them at room temperature and away from direct light.. that is why some medication will be dispensed inside of Amber vials or plastic bottles, to protect from UV lighting... Our partner that networks with us here at Euro Pharmacy they are known as pivotal labs they see and recognize this Hazard and they have Resort it back to using Amber vials just for this reason.. a lot of Laboratories like to go with the clean crisp look, because people have a sense of security when they're able to look at their contents but if you know and trust your lab you can rest assure that your contents are safe on the interior that is why pivotal labs operates with the highest standard and they chose to use Amber vials to assure greater quality and product integrity..

Simple Rules gentleman:
Store all of your unused contents away from direct light, and avoid extreme climate differences weather hot or cold.. room temperature is the best setting and avoid exposure to moisture..




Thanks for the sharing, it’s a great post
 
I really don't plan on my aas sitting that long .

Also not sure I have that kind of confidence in a ugl these days to not have a clear vial .
 
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Excellent post as usual. If I can add to this, there is much confusion about peptides too. Even when mixed. They can degrade but like Vision said, store in cool dry areas and they last way longer.

People think that mixed hcg and peptides only last a month, etc. But that is not true. I have tested peptides a year after they are mixed and they often contain a very high % of the compound if stored properly. The issue being that BAC water, per studies only is "sterile" for 28 days. So it can contain bacteria after that point. The thing is if you inject SubQ, there is much less chance of an infection even in expired bac water. IM there is much higher chance.

My whole point is not to encourage you to use expired gear, peptides or meds. Just adding to the fact meds last a hell of alot longer then people think.
 
I wish i had the problem of having expired gear . I can never stock up that long
 
So perhaps assume 5 years for oils and maybe 7-8 years for orals that are properly stored in a cool dark dry place.

Great information Vision thanks for sharing!
 
3rd world countries will buy shipping containers full of expired meds they use them all the time overseas. My ex from Nigeria would laugh about pictures on boxs of meds that looked like from the 80s when she lived there. I'd figure other countries would just rebox into newer looking bottles etc.
 
So perhaps assume 5 years for oils and maybe 7-8 years for orals that are properly stored in a cool dark dry place.

Great information Vision thanks for sharing!

From what I've seen, gathered and heard from others with personal real life feedback, it's "fair" to say 5 years for oils after exp. and for orals definitely 8-10 or "maybe" longer (?!?!?).
I've used Dbol that was about 10 years old and the effects were the same, tabs still had great integrity from the original press too. I recall they were Naposim in original blister that had the nipple on the plastic clear tub.
The real ones, not counterfeits or replicas. Loved those this.

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3rd world countries will buy shipping containers full of expired meds they use them all the time overseas. My ex from Nigeria would laugh about pictures on boxs of meds that looked like from the 80s when she lived there. I'd figure other countries would just rebox into newer looking bottles etc.
I could total see 3rd world getting tons of meds, someone will find a way to make money some how. far as resale, anything is possible right. Yet I seen some 3rd world make some of the best looking counterfeits like Viagra coming out of areas in Africa, like spot on.
 
I could total see 3rd world getting tons of meds, someone will find a way to make money some how. far as resale, anything is possible right. Yet I seen some 3rd world make some of the best looking counterfeits like Viagra coming out of areas in Africa, like spot on.

Doctors with out Borders accept medication from the hospital/surgery centers /offices that are expired and use in 3rd world countries everyday. We have very strict rules in USA

max
 
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Doctors with out Borders accept medication from the hospital/surgery centers /offices that are expired and use in 3rd world countries everyday. We have very strict rules in USA

max
I wouldn't know but that sounds logical, why not, they could use the help... Up charge the US a shit ton.. Example - $190 for a small eye drops script with insurance, and give them away years later.. :hmm:
No joke on the eye drops, I have beginning stages of Glaucoma.. Went for my drops and didn't think anything off it until she rang me up.. The plastic vial was this big - 🤏
2 x drops per eye, 20 doses..
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Omg! My papa just had to pay $550 for 3 types of eye drops ! I have to give them to him (he has the “lens behind the eye surgery “ he had one eye finished , then the stones/kidney thing happened. We definitely give literal whole ship loads (I’m talking every container filled) to other countries that are glad to use our drugs. They have problems with fake HIV drugs over there . Counterfeits are rampant .

Max
Damn eye drops w no generic ! He had to take 3 on a very strict schedule, hence me flying out ! Sucks , but he can see a lot better out of one eye . I have been having my fun talking shit to him ! Lol
 
Omg! My papa just had to pay $550 for 3 types of eye drops ! I have to give them to him (he has the “lens behind the eye surgery “ he had one eye finished , then the stones/kidney thing happened. We definitely give literal whole ship loads (I’m talking every container filled) to other countries that are glad to use our drugs. They have problems with fake HIV drugs over there . Counterfeits are rampant .

Max
Damn eye drops w no generic ! He had to take 3 on a very strict schedule, hence me flying out ! Sucks , but he can see a lot better out of one eye . I have been having my fun talking shit to him ! Lol
Bro, I would have never thought eue drops would have cost that much, when she rang me up I almost did a back flip.. I had to get them, but I never went for the refill, I only did it until me next exam which was scheduled 4 weeks away, they wanted to get the swelling down before they ran any more tests. Man, $550 is absolutely outrageous, and most elderly are the ones that use them and they are on fixed incomes.. What in the actual fuck.. Makes me sick!

Let's vax the would for free, and give boosters on top of that, but lets charge people $550 for drops? God help us...

and.... they wonder why there is a black market.. Big pharma and the FDA and lobbyists did this, they are responsible for the black market, they are to blame.. Don't blame the opportunists, hypocrites.
 
pl9ymkJ.jpg

Just about the majority of medications including anabolic steroids that are injectables and orals, have a relatively long lifespan.. the expiration date is just something that was implemented by the FDA to basically give a time span for the safe practice and and Overstock value which was put into place by the United States military with an investigation back in the mid-70s...

Researchers and medical facilities worldwide have conducted multiple tests on numerous medications and found that even decades after expiration date they still possessed almost there full potential in which they were labeled at.. however there is exceptions with certain medications that are extremely sensitive and delicate but you would need to look up those medications..

Someone would really need to have these medications including steroids in some pretty piss poor environments such as constant exposure to UV lighting, habitual exposure to hot and cold temperatures repeatedly, even then the hormone will not degrade significantly but most likely just fall out of its position (crash).. like I said when it pertains to anabolic steroids is there actual real shelf life can be up to decades exceeding 10 years and even up to 15 years..


If you wish to discontinue your protocol, and even whatever you have in your stock it is wise to keep them at room temperature and away from direct light.. that is why some medication will be dispensed inside of Amber vials or plastic bottles, to protect from UV lighting... Our partner that networks with us here at Euro Pharmacy they are known as pivotal labs they see and recognize this Hazard and they have Resort it back to using Amber vials just for this reason.. a lot of Laboratories like to go with the clean crisp look, because people have a sense of security when they're able to look at their contents but if you know and trust your lab you can rest assure that your contents are safe on the interior that is why pivotal labs operates with the highest standard and they chose to use Amber vials to assure greater quality and product integrity..

Simple Rules gentleman:
Store all of your unused contents away from direct light, and avoid extreme climate differences weather hot or cold.. room temperature is the best setting and avoid exposure to moisture..




Hey brother great post as usual!
I keep mine in a safe at 70 degrees year round to try and get the best hang time i can outa my gear.
 
Bro, I would have never thought eue drops would have cost that much, when she rang me up I almost did a back flip.. I had to get them, but I never went for the refill, I only did it until me next exam which was scheduled 4 weeks away, they wanted to get the swelling down before they ran any more tests. Man, $550 is absolutely outrageous, and most elderly are the ones that use them and they are on fixed incomes.. What in the actual fuck.. Makes me sick!

Let's vax the would for free, and give boosters on top of that, but lets charge people $550 for drops? God help us...

and.... they wonder why there is a black market.. Big pharma and the FDA and lobbyists did this, they are responsible for the black market, they are to blame.. Don't blame the opportunists, hypocrites.

Your last paragraphs are 100% correct! They are like robbers ! They’ll never give US residents cheap medicine ; we are paying for those “Free Vaccinations” through inflation!

Max
 
Your last paragraphs are 100% correct! They are like robbers ! They’ll never give US residents cheap medicine ; we are paying for those “Free Vaccinations” through inflation!

Max
No doubt about that as Big Pharma wants to control everything and if someone develops some miracle drug on his own Big Pharma will squash it.

I am sure that insurers are actually paying for it as got my vax thru my local pharmacy and they asked me for my insurance card. Sure enough I get a statement in the mail from my insurer indicating they paid $10 for each one.
 
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No doubt about that as Big Pharma wants to control everything and if someone develops some miracle drug on his own Big Pharma will squash it.

I am sure that insurers are actually paying for it as got my vax thru my local pharmacy and they asked me for my insurance card. Sure enough I get a statement in the mail from my insurer indicating they paid $10 for each one.

This right here, God forbid the little man brings to the market some sort of supplementation or whatever and it's not approved by the FDA, they get involved and they make life miserable with legal fees and all sorts of other shit, ultimately the little man taps out. And that's when these larger manufacturers jump in, they snatch up this new introduced supplement or whatever, then companies and investors jump in and they end up purchasing the rights, patents and whatever they can to monopolize in corner that product with licensing and manufacturing, and this is just an example of what they did to the supplement market.
 
3rd world countries will buy shipping containers full of expired meds they use them all the time overseas. My ex from Nigeria would laugh about pictures on boxs of meds that looked like from the 80s when she lived there. I'd figure other countries would just rebox into newer looking bottles etc.

and that is one of the reasons they are 3rd world countries. Expiration dates are not used for fun, sure they do not expire on the exact date but it is likely not a smart idea to use expired medicine far past the expiration date. I am not saying anything is wrong with this thread but a seller posting a thread about expired gear being fine to use should at least make you stop and think for a moment.
 
and that is one of the reasons they are 3rd world countries. Expiration dates are not used for fun, sure they do not expire on the exact date but it is likely not a smart idea to use expired medicine far past the expiration date. I am not saying anything is wrong with this thread but a seller posting a thread about expired gear being fine to use should at least make you stop and think for a moment.

Clearly you didn't read the entire thread. And clearly you're coming up with your own interpretation.
Which is completely normal, but you're trying to project something that isn't there. Read the content that was posted, and read it again (please read entire thread).. contexts is everything.
What is it exactly that people need to stop and think about for this supposed moment? I don't see anyone here suggesting to use medications "far" past expiration dates.
To spare me from pulling out the crayons and paper, I would strongly encourage that you should do some research. If you're not saying anything is wrong with the thread then what should people stop and think about in regards to the original poster? That's saying there's something wrong with the thread without saying there's something wrong with the thread.. :daydream::roflmao:
 
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For oils, yes it would be fair to assume that 5 years is a bit long, we also need to consider that carrier oils themselves also have a half life and shelf life.
Especially if they are a food derivative..

If someone purchased a product and it was a new release from the batch, that's 3 years right there, if they hold on to that for an extended 5 years after the expiration, it might be in there better interest to just toss them. But a couple years after expiration, meh, still good.

Orals however have some pretty good hang Time.

Thanks so much vision! I have about 12 bayer amps of primo they’re legit & then the zambon amps of water suspended winstrol
 
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