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Something different I’ve ran and loved was trest/tren/dhb. In fact with the trest I literally had no negative mental effects from tren. I was actually nicer
My favorite cycle right here. Only difference I run var and winny.. they are awesome togetherI'm running prop tren mast now with some winstrol. It's my favorite cycle that I usually run once a year.
I’ve seen several references to the Holy Trinity of stacks being test, mast, and tren.
Anyone consider modifying it for different intentions. By this I mean, still an aromatizing compound, a DHT derivative, and a 19-nor?
I disagree. There’s no magical compounds that “must” be ran in order to be competitive. The body is built in the off season, the drugs are there to preserve what was built while getting to an extremely low bodyfat level.They call it that more because if you want to actually place in a show there is no other option really, these are the compounds you must run to be competitive. Coming into the show itself I mean. Obviously offseason do what makes you happy.
I disagree. There’s no magical compounds that “must” be ran in order to be competitive. The body is built in the off season, the drugs are there to preserve what was built while getting to an extremely low bodyfat level.
Are you a competitor? Do you have experience with getting extremely lean and shredded? What is your experience to make this claim?Which is why I said "coming into the show itself." If you are on stage with actual serious competitors, all things being equal (similar size, reasonable conditioning) and test, tren, and mast are not a part of your cycle coming into the show you will not be competitive against those that are. I'd like to hear an argument for a better group of compounds for peaking into a show
Its definitely the holy trinity stack for maximizing hair loss.
Chase irons sounds like an idiot. Is that the same guy who charges people for his super secret raws source?What about test/Tren/mast for a offseason/bulk. I listen to guys like chase irons that say don’t do it your just spinning your wheels . Then guys like Nate Spears who include Tren in every bulk. Let’s assume appetite is high.