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    Biggest Mistakes

    As we have gone down this path...gear use..what huge mistakes did you make..problems it brought and are you suffering today from them..??

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    Running gear for 14 months...thinking changing compounds and doses along the way would be a big pay-off..
    It Wasn't...pretty sure that polished office my natural production..it now takes more to work and got some very slight gyno from it..I also think it put a huge strainer on my prostate,which is an issue when I use gear now..all could be age related..I didn't check markers that now I Preach about..Got lucky there..

    Been round and round in my head and Dr. if that or yrs of use caused my current conditions..Lifting too heavy for my frame has contributed greatly..Neck nerve damage...up right rows...for sure..other problems..hard to say...

    So...what F ups have you guys and gals done..
    This is where we give back..for the New Guys...and old dogs too..

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    I got started in the game late, so no HUGE issues for me. Worst is probably my hair line (or lack thereof). I can definitely feel the cold wind on my noggin.
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    Not an old dog yet, but I do have some tricks! . Subbed in to learn.

    Male, 41 gr old user (vet/competition)
    I read a recent post on a forum and some guy(very well read with long use and was competitive). He was using Deca/test , then NPP/Tren Ace/Test P and developed Deca Dick first(test/Deca). Then after bulking he started getting gyno that was not able to be controlled with his Nolvadex/Asin, he also couldn’t or it was hard to orgasm . He got bloods and spoke with a popular online doctor(after Test/Deca and was on the TrenE/Npp/Test P)

    #1 problem: So his Deca Dick - he was scared but, took .5-1mg finasteride , proviron tab split(no mg given). He mentioned DHN (also known a 5-a dihydronandrolone). {When Testosterone is 5a reduces into a DHT, it much stronger in its affinity}. The doc showed him how Nandrolone with a 5a-reductase inhibitor like finasteride/dutasteride , will block the conversion of nandrolone into 5α-DHN and, unlike with testosterone and various other AAS, thereby considerably increase the propensity of nandrolone for producing androgenic sides.
    •Result- said it cured his Deca dick and he didn’t use Cialis or viagra. Just .5mg finasteride and Proviron.

    #2 problem - Gyno (prolactin & ? ) , plus he could not CUM! This was a huge issue as he had thought all bases were covered . He used 600mg B6 and Vit E 400iu Twice a day(IDK) , anyhow , he got Cabergoline and took .5mg twice a week, he kept taking finasteride.5 to 1mg daily , he used 25mg proviron 3x daily, and BTW- Aromasin 25mg eod /Nolvadex up to 40-60mg daily wasn’t working for his gyno .
    •He added Letrozole 2.5mg and Raloxifene(Evista) 60mg to his regimen because the gyno was something he had dealt with in past but, his doc said Tren is another animal (especially combined). He had him increase his testosterone total mg weekly because the doc told him he was taking too low dose of testosterone compared to Tren. He increased his test, was taking the above and then took 60mg Raloxifene daily 10 days and letro 2.5mg(day one) , letro 1mg for 9 other days.
    •Result- shrank his gyno lumps and fully circular growth (very noticeable and came on fast). Completely reversed his outward showing symptoms along with his orgasm/erection issues . He continued Raloxifene until end of cycle and afterwards- his PCT had up to 100mg Raloxifene and all the other PCT items .


    Mini Quick look-
    #1 finasteride .5mg and proviron split(probably 50mg) helped cure his Deca dick (which can be a mental issue)
    #2 Couldnt Cum and Had High prolactin and gyno was rapidly growing - .1mg Finasteride, 25mg 3x Daily proviron , .5mg Cabergoline 2x a week, letro and Raloxifene Added for emergency gyno not controlled by Nolva/Asin

    Point- This can be an expensive and “not fun” experience. No orgasm, dick won’t work right and you have gyno & lactation. Plus , he was competing and could not just stop (he could have but didn’t).
    •The cost of Finasteride is cheap
    {Evista}Raloxifene 60mg Tabs $$
    Letrozole 2.5mg $
    Proviron 75mg daily $$$
    Cabergoline- .5mg 2x week $$
    Addition of 1ml Testoviron 250 amp $

    Makes a guy want to have Raloxifene as an additional emergency item. Idk why he didn’t take daily Cialis . Anyhow - he had pics and it worked . After I saw a MPMD vid on Raloxifene.
    I am always paranoid of finasteride (due to sexual dysfunction & lessen effect of cycle) but, if taking nandrolone , it sounds like it definitely is proven to block the 5a - DHN Conversion. That part was under DHN & DHT meaning & definitions under Wikipedia.

    Food for thought ! Never forget the Caber/Serm/AI ! Gyno is no joke and a dick that won’t Cum or get hard is asking for relationship issues .


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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
    I am always paranoid of finasteride (due to sexual dysfunction & lessen effect of cycle)
    Same. You never know if it's going to be the silver bullet that fixes things or if you just threw gas on the fire. Russian roulette.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multislacking View Post
    I got started in the game late, so no HUGE issues for me. Worst is probably my hair line (or lack thereof). I can definitely feel the cold wind on my noggin.
    My God
    She's Hott..

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    Quote Originally Posted by zionoir626 View Post
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