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    Help dialing in my estrogen!!

    So came off cycle and hopped on cruise 200 mg test with 12.5 mg aromasin twice a week. Got tested month later e2 was 63. Dropped dose to 180 mgs a week and kept ai at same dose twice a week. Dripped e2 to 30. Now not sure where to go from here. Not sure how healthy it is to be on ai for an extended time. When my e2 was 60 I did have slight puffy nips.

    Should I continue the dose? Lower the dose to 6.25? I feel like im feeling smaller as well. Like my muscles aren't as full and don't get a pump as well

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf04 View Post
    So came off cycle and hopped on cruise 200 mg test with 12.5 mg aromasin twice a week. Got tested month later e2 was 63. Dropped dose to 180 mgs a week and kept ai at same dose twice a week. Dripped e2 to 30. Now not sure where to go from here. Not sure how healthy it is to be on ai for an extended time. When my e2 was 60 I did have slight puffy nips.

    Should I continue the dose? Lower the dose to 6.25? I feel like im feeling smaller as well. Like my muscles aren't as full and don't get a pump as well

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    Blood work will always be all over the place, it's nothing but a snapshot of what's possibly going on, and things can change at any given..
    What is your diet like?
    It's hard for anyone to say anything without knowing any prior blood work that you have had done before besides these, really nothing to compare it to.
    Those changes aren't that crazy and it is to be expected if you're tampering your dosage.
    And it's part of the territory to not feel as full. Try not to let that bother you too much as your deloating right now and taking a break.
    There's plenty of time to get that back.

    But in the meantime you can maybe work on something with your intra workout.. 6g BCAA, with 30g Gatorade powder and a few cranks of white sea salt..

    Also don't shy away from adding any pink Himalayan salt with all of your meals. This may help a little bit as well.
    And you can always take some Cialis EOD..
    This will all be superficial and for the pump, but it works and it'll make you feel better.

    But the real question with all of this besides numbers and chasing numbers, how do you feel?
    If you're libido is okay and you feel okay that's all that matters.
    The fluctuations and the loss is to be expected in some areas just remember that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    Blood work will always be all over the place, it's nothing but a snapshot of what's possibly going on, and things can change at any given..
    What is your diet like?
    It's hard for anyone to say anything without knowing any prior blood work that you have had done before besides these, really nothing to compare it to.
    Those changes aren't that crazy and it is to be expected if you're tampering your dosage.
    And it's part of the territory to not feel as full. Try not to let that bother you too much as your deloating right now and taking a break.
    There's plenty of time to get that back.

    But in the meantime you can maybe work on something with your intra workout.. 6g BCAA, with 30g Gatorade powder and a few cranks of white sea salt..

    Also don't shy away from adding any pink Himalayan salt with all of your meals. This may help a little bit as well.
    And you can always take some Cialis EOD..
    This will all be superficial and for the pump, but it works and it'll make you feel better.

    But the real question with all of this besides numbers and chasing numbers, how do you feel?
    If you're libido is okay and you feel okay that's all that matters.
    The fluctuations and the loss is to be expected in some areas just remember that.
    Thanks man lots of good advice. Feel good. Feel slight cracking in my bones. I'm just worried about lipids of I use aromasin year round.

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    why do you even need an AI on such low dosages of test...

    are you super sensitive to estrogen and experiencing negative side effects without using an AI?

    dont get fixated on having your e2 at specific number on your bloodwork it doesnt matter tbh... as long as you feel good/normal thats all that matters

    also its all about the ratios if your test levels are high you want your estro a bit higher than normal to help balance out the ratio

    i personally never use AIs even during blast cycles my estrogen goes up too the 100s and i still feel perfectly fine with no negative side effects

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawbuilt View Post
    why do you even need an AI on such low dosages of test...

    are you super sensitive to estrogen and experiencing negative side effects without using an AI?

    dont get fixated on having your e2 at specific number on your bloodwork it doesnt matter tbh... as long as you feel good/normal thats all that matters

    also its all about the ratios if your test levels are high you want your estro a bit higher than normal to help balance out the ratio

    i personally never use AIs even during blast cycles my estrogen goes up too the 100s and i still feel perfectly fine with no negative side effects
    He mentioned he had puffy nips at 60 E2

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    Just puffy nips and slight bloat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf04 View Post
    Just puffy nips and slight bloat
    i would still drop the AI for a couple weeks and see how you feel and increase your injection frequency that will make a really big difference in your aromatization...

    make sure your diet/hydration is on point cause that can easily cause bloat problems

    AIs are terrible for your health bro and being on them all time is gonna destroy your lipids i would seriously give it shot

    i got a bit bloated at first too in the first initial spike of estrogen but eventually my body stabilized and went back to normal without using any AIs or lowering the dose and now i can push high test without any estrogen sides i also inject 3x a week so my hormones are always steady keeping aromatization levels low

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    E2 at 30 is good, at the high limit.
    At 60 he is already high and on top of that you also have side like puffy nipples.


    but you didn't tell us anything about the timing and the products used.
    how long have you been cruising at 200 mg test? what did you use before? at what dose? how long?
    this information is used to understand what to do with the ai, but in any case you will have to stay at fixed dosages for 5 weeks and then redo the blood tests to know for sure what to do




    About the fact that you feel smaller, this does not surprise me, and it does not depend on estro.
    I don't know what you took and what dosages for your blast, but now you are on a cruise and want to feel like on blast.
    Well, forget about this, you can't expect to turn off the drugs and feel like you're still on
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phill View Post
    E2 at 30 is good, at the high limit.
    At 60 he is already high and on top of that you also have side like puffy nipples.


    but you didn't tell us anything about the timing and the products used.
    how long have you been cruising at 200 mg test? what did you use before? at what dose? how long?
    this information is used to understand what to do with the ai, but in any case you will have to stay at fixed dosages for 5 weeks and then redo the blood tests to know for sure what to do




    About the fact that you feel smaller, this does not surprise me, and it does not depend on estro.
    I don't know what you took and what dosages for your blast, but now you are on a cruise and want to feel like on blast.
    Well, forget about this, you can't expect to turn off the drugs and feel like you're still on
    Previous blast was just 300 test and npp 300 and anavar 25 mg a day cycle length was 12 weeks. Been cruising now for about 2 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf04 View Post
    So came off cycle and hopped on cruise 200 mg test with 12.5 mg aromasin twice a week. Got tested month later e2 was 63. Dropped dose to 180 mgs a week and kept ai at same dose twice a week. Dripped e2 to 30. Now not sure where to go from here. Not sure how healthy it is to be on ai for an extended time. When my e2 was 60 I did have slight puffy nips.

    Should I continue the dose? Lower the dose to 6.25? I feel like im feeling smaller as well. Like my muscles aren't as full and don't get a pump as well

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.
    You always have the option to drop the AI and run torem or nolva instead. This eliminates your E2 up and downs and is much more user friendly. Itís also much better on your lipids. Just my take man. I dropped the AI years back and solely used torem.

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    What should the plan be. Start injecting 3x a week and lower my ai dose? Then get bloods again in a few weeks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf04 View Post
    What should the plan be. Start injecting 3x a week and lower my ai dose? Then get bloods again in a few weeks.
    Thatís a good start. I honestly inject every day with a slin pin, Iím currently on 400npp 600 test pp and take 12.5 Mg aromasin a week and Iím not getting any high estrogen sides in fact I feel great

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifeguardkliff View Post
    Thatís a good start. I honestly inject every day with a slin pin, Iím currently on 400npp 600 test pp and take 12.5 Mg aromasin a week and Iím not getting any high estrogen sides in fact I feel great
    So I pinned 100 mg on Monday. Should I try to split the rest Wed and Friday and just pin again Thurs and start 3x a week next week?

    And what you think 6.25 mg twice a week to start and see how it goes from there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbadwolf04 View Post
    So I pinned 100 mg on Monday. Should I try to split the rest Wed and Friday and just pin again Thurs and start 3x a week next week?

    And what you think 6.25 mg twice a week to start and see how it goes from there?
    That would work fine itís not gonna make your levels fluctuate drastically so your not going to see any adverse side effects. I stick to 12.5 because itís easier to split a pill in half my suggestion would be to take 12.5 Monday and 1.5 Thursday or Friday since you pin Friday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lifeguardkliff View Post
    That would work fine itís not gonna make your levels fluctuate drastically so your not going to see any adverse side effects. I stick to 12.5 because itís easier to split a pill in half my suggestion would be to take 12.5 Monday and 1.5 Thursday or Friday since you pin Friday
    Thanks man. What you mean 1.5? 1.5 mg of aromasin?

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