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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    I need to keep it real and this is the one compound that I will openly admit that I do abuse. I use it in high dosages but it comes at a cost. The pumps can be absolutely debilitating and I believe this is one of the culprits that has ruined my lower back and in fact made some of my sessions impossible to complete.
    100mg would be my go-to spot depending on the day, chest, arms , shoulders, when it came to back day or leg day I would have to lower it to 50-60..
    I absolutely love this compound especially in high dosages.
    Damn bro! 100mg. Sounds like alot. But man I bet it worked great. Is it as bad for your liver as dbol? How long would you run it at 100mg a day?
    Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattlesbest View Post
    I've been takin it for about 4 days now and I can already see it workin. More vascular and the arm pumps are real. Not to strong tho. 20 in the am 20 in the pm.

    I lovvvvved thoes 10mg pills. What I first started with back in the day. I had like 300 10mg pills. I'd even brake them in half and take 5mg every 2 hours. I was bout that dbol life haha I ran it like that for a year... What a dumb ass. Liver was perfect blood pressure, well that's a different story haha.

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    I might bump it up here in a couple weeks. So far 40mg is workin nice.
    Hells Yeah! Hit the 60!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seattlesbest View Post
    Damn bro! 100mg. Sounds like alot. But man I bet it worked great. Is it as bad for your liver as dbol? How long would you run it at 100mg a day?
    No it's not as taxing, but you do need to take a break from it like anything else.. they were using higher dosages during the Olympics, I'm not making that up.
    It really is one of those drugs if you use a high dosage of it you will get a good return. Not many compounds are like that. I strongly encourage and suggest not to use high dosage on leg day or back day. You should do fine at 60, on arm day, chest day and shoulders bump it up to 100 just for a bucket list.. don't forget to add BCAAs intra workout drink with electrolytes and most definitely add several cranks of sea salt with it.. get that down long before your workout is over and you'll have some amazing pumps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
    I love that combo when I don’t want to use Dbol or Anadrol, I get all the power without all the bloat! Plus, I followed your guys’ advice about L-taurine and bought a kilo. It seems 5g is my dose to prevent the back pumps, OMG; the Pain is ridiculous. Now I rarely have it happen.

    I find it a tad stronger than Var and super versatile. I see a lot more female physique/BB using it too. I loved studying it before I used it. First time I did 10mg Tabs : 2 in AM/2 in PM and it worked good. Now, years later it still works !! I still love inj adrol (after I learned how to master the water part) and Dbol Tabs. I still like getting 10mg tablets vs 50mg, lol! Old habit, seems like I get more BANG !!

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    There's a post I made about the back pumps a while ago and a couple guys had some great suggestions with it. Some guy suggested to do weighted hangs and they actually worked. I didn't think they would but they did.. it's almost like one of those inverted beds but it's not inverted and the weight on the belt would be equivalent to your upper body on an inverted bed.
    I also do a lot of knees to chest stretching, single knees. But I hold them for a minimum of 3 minutes each.
    I'm a firm believer that the majority of people that experience this it's because of scar tissue. When the scar tissue heals it's almost like it's crisscrossed like a weaved basket.

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    I've used 50 mg per day the 2 times I've used tbol...first time I split 25 mg 2x ed...second time did 50 mg before workout....didnt notice a difference either way as far as what effects,I got. I did have to drop down to 25 mg Ed for a week both times due to the back pumps...I love the results from tbol...I used it both times during recomp...lost weight but didn't lose any size, legs actually got bigger. Only 1/2 inch though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    There's a post I made about the back pumps a while ago and a couple guys had some great suggestions with it. Some guy suggested to do weighted hangs and they actually worked. I didn't think they would but they did.. it's almost like one of those inverted beds but it's not inverted and the weight on the belt would be equivalent to your upper body on an inverted bed.
    I also do a lot of knees to chest stretching, single knees. But I hold them for a minimum of 3 minutes each.
    I'm a firm believer that the majority of people that experience this it's because of scar tissue. When the scar tissue heals it's almost like it's crisscrossed like a weaved basket.
    I do 30-45 sec hangs a lot now. I have a low back issue from car accident @ 15 yrs old. It is actually a hard exercise! When u relax completely (just using hand strength to hold your “limp body”). I have been lucky it doesn’t affect my squats & deads yet...but only because I use very strict form and that mind/muscle connection(I try to teach it) but that is one thing that is too complex to teach. You give the tools to the client but they have to “do it” or “get it” themselves. It is like when you learn how to finally pose correctly. I still remember when I was able to first control my lats to “flare” them like a Cobra...I was an amazed kid! Lol. Scar tissue is a bitch and so are old “broken bones” I have had a lot before the age of 18. My hand has hardware x2 from sports which gives me issues(I have to wear wrist wraps) and my handwriting sucks! Thank god we don’t write anymore! Lol.

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    tried it all over the place and ended up @ 30mgs am/pm(60ed). I swear @ 100 I can do like 3 sets of curls and feel like I've done 10- pumps are unreal- good sometimes,bad sometimes- u just have to play w/ dosage- but I've had it cripple me trying to do bench and my back just won't let up, so it can get dicey bro- be careful until u get used to it-but overall my favorite oral(next to provi of course).

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