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    Higher Doses when cutting? (Seems the pros are doing it)

    It seems the general consensus when it comes to competitive bodybuilding is that most pros will run lower AAS doses when bulking and higher doses when cutting. Which kind of goes against what one would think. You would think that they would run higher doses when bulking to assist in adding more muscle and lower the doses when cutting to maintain.




    However it makes sense when you think about it...




    Building muscle is rather easy and can be done with minimal doses of AAS as long as the calorie intake is conducive. When you're bulking there's nothing working against you, you have the androgens, and the calories you need so doses can be moderate when trying to build muscle.




    When cutting, you have everything working against you. Lack of calories, increase in cardio (burning calories), decrease in training endurance/strength, etc. If anything you would want to increase your AAS during this time to counteract everything else working against you to preserve as much muscle as possible and prevent catabolism.




    Here's a study done that analyzes the methods used by bodybuilders including their doses. You can see that they increase their doses substantially when cutting. -> https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28458804/




    Also here's an "alleged" leak of Big Ramy's off-season & contest prep cycle:





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    Yeah...F That

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    Yeah! No thanks I'll be broke and dead by then.

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    Omg ! I would not enjoy all that volume! Holy Shizz! I think I would be in a constant state of fear and croak! He IS MASSIVE! I just would never, especially getting snubbed all those years. I only can blame the man. At least he has his Sandow.

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    Lol whatever I guess.

    The real question is how much of his muscles are muscles and how much of it is just the oil he's been injecting on any given day lol. Holy fuckin volume Batman.

    You'd rip the dude open and he'd look like a Stretch Armstrong doll...


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    500 Tren A a day- shit I can't do 500 a fuckin week- those are really some unbelievable doses- the most I've seen would MAYBE be half of that and I thought they were crazy(still do) . And the moral to the story is 3 out of the 4 guys I knew that did crazy doses like that are dead- 2 died in their early 40's, 1 in his early 50's. 1 still alive after a liver transplant. So there's that. The body can take alot of punishment- but there are limits. Got a feeling he will pay later- U just got to use common sense. And this ain't it imo. To each his own, but not me brother.

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    Maybe I’m just a skeptical person, but I’m suspicious of the validity behind the “Pro Cycles” that pop up then and again.

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    Is almost impossible to know what pros are using . Roelly Winklaar when he was coached by the "grandmother" he not even know what is in syringe, most of them like Fouad dont know nothing about drugs , combinations they only do what coaches tell or apply on them .
    On Iran they use alot boldenone vet of high quality .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldman85 View Post
    Maybe I’m just a skeptical person, but I’m suspicious of the validity behind the “Pro Cycles” that pop up then and again.
    Oh me too 100%. I was more referring to the fact that it shows higher doses for the cutting cycle and lower doses for the bulking/off season cycle. That was the original subject of my post but people got side tracked with the cycle and doses lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jozifp103 View Post
    Oh me too 100%. I was more referring to the fact that it shows higher doses for the cutting cycle and lower doses for the bulking/off season cycle. That was the original subject of my post but people got side tracked with the cycle and doses lol.
    I’d definitely see a lot more different compounds used during someone’s cutting protocols vs. Bulking. . I use less protein bulking and a lot more carbs too.

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    1st, that is not Big Ramys cycle. That is just foolish to believe.

    2nd, higher dosages for cutting cycles are not needed. It is proven that the majority of people can maintain their size on 200mg of Test per week. Obviously, you won't be as full.. but the muscle tissue is preserved. Now.. the leaner you are and further you go into a caloric deficit.. then more gear may be needed to hold size. That's where things like Tren and Primo come in handy. For the most part, the mg total of a cutting cycle adds up because people are adding compounds in to help achieve a certain kind of look, not because they need it to hold there size.

    Most people could run.. 300 Test and 600 Primo on a cutting cycle and hold their size just fine. But now lets add in 600mg Mast, 50mg a day of Winny or Var.. 300mg of Tren to top it off.. and your mg total just tripled.

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    Yeah that cycle is not real.

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    Why would one even poison there body with that amount. If you can’t grow on 1000mg total of everything then this isn’t for you.

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