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Growth Hormone

Rating: (1 being the lowest, 5 being the highest)
Strength-4
Weight Gain-4
Fat Loss-4
Side Effects-2
Keep Gains--4

Side Effects:
Hypoglycemia- due to lowered insulin levels.
Aromeglia- (abnormal bone growth) GH does not cause it, but if you are predisposed to it, it will speed it up.
GH gut- if predisposed and taking large doses of GH
Carpel Tunnel Syndrome
Soreness in Joints

Benefits of GH:
New Muscle Cells
Mood Enhancement
Smoothing and improving the skin
Leanness, it is a potent fat burner
Joint and ligament strengthening

Where to Inject, How, and How to Make:
You can site inject anywhere you can reach the subcutaneous layer. Pinch the flesh and pull back, then insert the needle in the "pocket" underneath. Doesn't absorb quick enough if you inject into the adipose tissue. Do not inject intra-muscular, though it can be done, it is not recommended. GH is a site injection, where it is shot is where it will burn the most noticeable fat. Most people do it in the stomach since that is a typical sub q shot with most of the fat being in that area. GH should be kept in a fridge; freezing will destroy the GH. On your kit it probably says to use the kit in 18-24 hours, remember these are for AIDS patients, not bodybuilders or athletes. Mixing the GH can either be done with sterile water or bacteriostic water. The kit with water will be fine for 3 days in the fridge, even with the sterile water, but you should not take this chance, rather you should use bacteriostic water and play it safe. This will keep it fine for a couple of weeks. When mixing the GH, let the water slide down the side as to not pulverize the GH wafer. Do not spray it directly against the wafer with any force. Before reconstitution and even after GH is fragile!!! Also once the water is injected into the bottle gently swirl the vial to reconstitute, do not shake or swirl violently!!!!

Conversions:
1 ml = 1 cc -/+
100 units per 1 cc

6 mg = 18iu

1 ml = 18iu

.50 ml = 9iu

.25 ml = 4.5iu

Some people choose to only do it in cc?s but here is how you can do it in units on a slin dart

5.5 = 1iu, so 2iu = 11 on a slin dart

Differences Between Kits:
The main difference between kits is how many iu?s they make when reconstituted. For example, Serostim re-constitutes to make 126iu, while a Saizen kit.... also made by Serono.... makes up 15iu. Another of their kits makes 54iu. It better be way cheaper than a Serostim kit! Humatrope is fine, but costs too much. The other main concern would be fakes; Lilly is the most often faked one. Some older GH kits do not have holograms on them and are legit, but they are usually only less than 100 dollars than new GH kits with holograms, and I would rather be assured of the hologram and legitimacy of the kit. Best buy currently is Serostim 126 iu kits. These are made for people with wasting diseases like AIDs. Many of these patients got infected because they are IV drug addicts..........they sell the Serostim on the street for drug money.


Dose:

4 to 6 iu ed is sufficient. Most people take it 5 days on 2 days off at their designated dosage. There is no reason or evidence why you cannot stay on for various lengths of time; there is no need to go 5 on 2 off other than cost. Considering that our natural production is only .5 to 1.5iu a day, this is still a huge bump for the body. Research has shown that the body's natural defense systems render mega doses of GH ineffective, anyway. GH does not cause gains in mass...it allows you to put on a great deal of lean mass in combination with proper steroid and insulin use. The user before taking must know this. One or two kits are not enough, you need at least 3 to make you happy, GH takes a while to make its effects, but remember they are long lasting, what you see is what you keep. It takes 6 to 8 weeks to notice a dramatic change in body comp using GH on an ED or 5/2 split. Lighter doses for long periods of time are better than large doses for short cycles. Like any other drug, the more you take the more the benefits, but likewise also more risks. 4-6 iu is a standard dose but many people take more, the most repulsing side effects happen at or beyond 12 iu a day but like anything else it depends on your predisposition for it.


How to Stack:
GH is best taken in conjunction with insulin, anabolic steroids, and t3. Insulin is extremely effective with GH, as anyone here who has tried it will testify. This is because GH injections cause a down regulation of insulin sensitivity in the body.
GH alone causes little growth of lean mass, however, when combined with insulin and steroids (and IGF-1 if you can find it), the results can be down right remarkable...esp. in the older bodybuilder. Start light with the humulin...5iu...and work up 1 iu a day till you get use to it. 7 to 10iu in the AM and 7 to 10 iu in the late afternoon, with split doses of GH is your best bet. When splitting GH/insulin doses, I use mid-morning and late afternoon after lifting.... both flat times in our natural GH production. The insulin overcomes the insulin-resistance caused by exogenous GH supplementation. If you are scared to take insulin thought, then Gh with Test and Glucophage is good. GH is good for cutting if used alone. Glucophage allows for improved glucose and amino acid absorption by the muscle tissue and does it safely. This is what you want. The half-life of GH is only 2 hours so spread it out. Avoid bedtime injections since we produce the bulk of our own GH in the first two hours of sleep. Since exogenous GH suppresses this, you should not take it before bed. For best results, use a 17aa oral during the cycle to stimulate the release of natural insulin growth factors. I would run the test throughout. GH/insulin/test is the proven synergistic combination.
It is also wise to preload with testosterone before starting GH if you are going to do it. You should preload with the amount of time it takes for that testosterone to kick in, since most of us take longer acting esters for testosterone you should usually start taking the test 2 weeks before GH use. Likewise, you can accommodate it to fit your needs; the key is for the test to be kicking in the same time you are starting to run your GH. You can cycle you steroids however you want to depending on your goals, if you are going for a more massive look than you would run insulin for most of the cycle and use high androgens, but if you are looking for additional leanness at the end of a cycle you should stop the androgens and run a higher dose of GH or run less androgens. T3 is also another substance that should be used during GH cycling since GH lowers thyroid hormones. T3 should be used for shorter periods though, because it can permanently alter the endocrine system. The magic of GH for men is the ability to gain mass without fat or bloating when stacked properly with insulin, and steroids. GH also makes for amazing improvements in skin...smoothes wrinkles, burns stubborn spots of adipose tissue, gives that paper-thin contest look...and also gives one a real mood lift, a feeling of well being.

Major Difference Between GH and Steroids:
Steroids can increase the size of your muscle cells, but cannot I repeat CAN NOT increase the number of muscle cells in your body, which to start with is governed by your genetics. However Growth hormone CAN increase the number of muscle cells in your body, which goes beyond genetics.

Half-Life of GH:
Exogenous (injected) GH has a "half-life" of approximately 2 hours . . . a 4-hour period of activity during which there is a suppression of naturally produced GH.

GH Naturally Produced:
We release the most of our naturally produced GH during the first two hours of deep sleep...you may take a little time to adjust.... your body thinks you should be in bed when that big influx hits. It is good to take a nap, that?s when you grow anyway. It always helps to take naps after workouts and injections everyday.

GH Causing Acromeglia:
Acromeglia is a disease...you either have it or you don't. Supplementing GH will not cause it. Persons suffering from acromeglia, like Andre the Giant, lack the natural defense mechanisms of the body to regulate the production and effects of GH secretion in he pituitary. It is well established in the medical literature that exogenous GH will not cause the disease.... of course it would worsen the condition in those who had it.

GH Gut: Myth or Reality?:

Some researchers claim that any gains in weight experienced by subjects using GH alone was due to growth of internal organs and connective tissue, which could cause some problems. Most studies do not agree with this theory and consider "GH gut" to be a myth. Some people are allergic to synthetic test, this is something you have to find out for yourself. Some people also feel intestinal discomfort from time to time, if so take it down to one item at a time to see what is causing you discomfort; creatine, glutamine, protein products, orals, and dirty gear have all been known to cause this, so find the problem early.

GH and IGF-1:
Perhaps the most relevant effect of IGF-1 is the ability of IGF-1 to increase protein synthesis by increasing cellular mRNA formation (mRNA makes protein) as well as increasing uptake of amino acids. This effect on protein synthesis can lead to increased lean mass. The research indicates that this effect is dependent on GH presence as well. So IGF-1 alone does not promote such effects. Nor does GH. It appears the combination of the two most consistently lead to increased protein synthesis.
 

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Always enjoy articles on gh/slin/thy and peptides/glp-1/biguanides .

Max
 
I’ve never even looked into it as I’ve heard the price is outright outrageous...
 
This forum has vendors with REAL rHGH. Dutchtropin I personally bloodworked plasma levels which were over 20 thus real. Qtropin, Roidsource, test out at over 30 by another poster here. That batch was pharma grade....for $280 for 200 IU. Price is way down while quality is going up!

Plenty of other reputable rHGH vendors here.
 
Today is so easy to get real quality gear , they are in front your eyes . When i begin is not so easy to get real good stuff
 
Great article!!!
I just started looking into hgh and this popped up at the perfect time to answer questions I had.
I am type 2 diabetic and have my blood sugars in check with diet now. Where before I needed Metformin 500mg twice daily when first diagnosed. If I’m reading correctly if I add hgh to my trt test I’ll need to hit my stock pile of Metformin to get even better results?


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Great article!!!
I just started looking into hgh and this popped up at the perfect time to answer questions I had.
I am type 2 diabetic and have my blood sugars in check with diet now. Where before I needed Metformin 500mg twice daily when first diagnosed. If I’m reading correctly if I add hgh to my trt test I’ll need to hit my stock pile of Metformin to get even better results?


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Metformin is good on cutting because you lose appetite , slin is better on bulking
 
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Metformin is good on cutting because you lose appetite , slin is better on bulking

You mentioned using Humulin, N or R?
Also T3, how long do you recommend running T3 and insulin.
I’m looking at hgh at 2iu/day, low dose long run. Also Test C at 300mg 2x week for 12-16 weeks then back to trt cruise.


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GH makes you feel hypo when you are actually hyper. you need to get a blood meter and if your going to use slin I would suggest running with GH. just my .02
 
You mentioned using Humulin, N or R?
Also T3, how long do you recommend running T3 and insulin.
I’m looking at hgh at 2iu/day, low dose long run. Also Test C at 300mg 2x week for 12-16 weeks then back to trt cruise.


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At low dose hgh like 2ius you dont need insulin or even t3 . Insulin i like humalog only post workout after my hgh shoot. Never do more than 4 weeks without 4 weeks break of insulin , t3 never go higher than 75mcg and always reduce dosage before stop
 
At low dose hgh like 2ius you dont need insulin or even t3 . Insulin i like humalog only post workout after my hgh shoot. Never do more than 4 weeks without 4 weeks break of insulin , t3 never go higher than 75mcg and always reduce dosage before stop

Thanks for the info!!!!
I’m gonna put an order in for my kits and cyp and get rolling!!!


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Great Info Monstro
Only thing I would add is...if you have anything bad growing..tumors,Cancer,ect..it can make them grow..
So be sure you get checked out head to head first..
 
Yes increasing IGF levels is a way to grow all in your body , organs , muscles , hair but also any kind of cancer . Just super healthy person should use HGH
 
I have used 4 different GH products, I am now in month 5 4 iu in the morning w fasted workout and cardio and 2 iu before bed 5 days on and 2 off to help w insulin resistance recovery (maybe?) Fat is melting off noticeably and I feel great, and I heal up from injury in half the time. It’s kinda crazy. My job hasn’t allowed me to workout consistently fro a few weeks, so I cut out my 2 iu before bed and still do my 4iu in the mornings. I have a pretty solid diet and active job so I’m sure that helps, but I had all of the diet and activity before GH also and fat did not melt off this nicely. I should also add, I don’t seem to have lost muscle or much weigh, but noticing a lot of fat loss. Sorry for the ramble, 6 months is the magic time of use, so I’m looking foreword to the final result! Laters
 
I have used 4 different GH products, I am now in month 5 4 iu in the morning w fasted workout and cardio and 2 iu before bed 5 days on and 2 off to help w insulin resistance recovery (maybe?) Fat is melting off noticeably and I feel great, and I heal up from injury in half the time. It’s kinda crazy. My job hasn’t allowed me to workout consistently fro a few weeks, so I cut out my 2 iu before bed and still do my 4iu in the mornings. I have a pretty solid diet and active job so I’m sure that helps, but I had all of the diet and activity before GH also and fat did not melt off this nicely. I should also add, I don’t seem to have lost muscle or much weigh, but noticing a lot of fat loss. Sorry for the ramble, 6 months is the magic time of use, so I’m looking foreword to the final result! Laters

If is working , keep all you are doing , never change anything when is working
 
IGF-1 + HGH is really anabolic I've found, but a great way to make yourself insulin resistant.
 
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IGF-1 + HGH is really anabolic I've found, but a great way to make yourself insulin resistant.
Are you using peptide IGF (Lr3 or DES) or are you using bioidentical rIGF-1 (like Increlex or Insubolin)? All the studies that have been made stacking REAL rIGF - 1 with rHGH indicated an increased insulin receptor sensitivity to insulin.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10905488/
............ These findings demonstrated that IGF-I replacement resulted in significant alterations in glucose and protein metabolism in the basal and insulin-stimulated states. These effects were associated with increased insulin sensitivity, and they underline the major role of IGF-I in protein and glucose metabolism in type 1 diabetes.

If you are running HGH, IGF-1 should aid in maintenance of healthy BG levelsm, the HGH + IGF-1 has bee clinically studied.
The use of IGF-1 by people with diabetes may also be beneficial, but you need to find the dosage that will do the job.
You can stay on IGF-1 for an extended period of time, kids use IGF-1 for years, just like HGH.
 
Are you using peptide IGF (Lr3 or DES) or are you using bioidentical rIGF-1 (like Increlex or Insubolin)? All the studies that have been made stacking REAL rIGF - 1 with rHGH indicated an increased insulin receptor sensitivity to insulin.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10905488/
............ These findings demonstrated that IGF-I replacement resulted in significant alterations in glucose and protein metabolism in the basal and insulin-stimulated states. These effects were associated with increased insulin sensitivity, and they underline the major role of IGF-I in protein and glucose metabolism in type 1 diabetes.

If you are running HGH, IGF-1 should aid in maintenance of healthy BG levelsm, the HGH + IGF-1 has bee clinically studied.
The use of IGF-1 by people with diabetes may also be beneficial, but you need to find the dosage that will do the job.
You can stay on IGF-1 for an extended period of time, kids use IGF-1 for years, just like HGH.

Insubolic is amazing , and very strong
 
You mentioned using Humulin, N or R?
Also T3, how long do you recommend running T3 and insulin.
I’m looking at hgh at 2iu/day, low dose long run. Also Test C at 300mg 2x week for 12-16 weeks then back to trt cruise.


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You are going to be very unhappy at 2iu. You're going to sleep better that's about it. If you are looking for it to contribute to gains better buy enough for 5iu.
 
You are going to be very unhappy at 2iu. You're going to sleep better that's about it. If you are looking for it to contribute to gains better buy enough for 5iu.
Do you feel 5 IU should be the am shot or maybe do a split with two separate injections?
 
Do you feel 5 IU should be the am shot or maybe do a split with two separate injections?

Depends on what you're doing. If using slin its a different scenario. But aside from that if it were me id split am and afternoon or pre bed and am. Not a lot of love for pre bed but whatever.
You could add mk677 pre bed and turn that 5iu essentially into 7.5 iu
 
Depends on what you're doing. If using slin its a different scenario. But aside from that if it were me id split am and afternoon or pre bed and am. Not a lot of love for pre bed but whatever.
You could add mk677 pre bed and turn that 5iu essentially into 7.5 iu

The protocol for hgh on budget is :
3ius hgh post workout
Humalog post workout
MK677 30mg day
 
The protocol for hgh on budget is :
3ius hgh post workout
Humalog post workout
MK677 30mg day

How close together are you timing the slin after the HGH? I've read a low dose of humalog taken 30+ minutes after rHGH greatly spikes the liver's IGF-1 response.
 
Did insulin back in 97..new to it and not very knowledgeable...After a few bad days called a knowledgeable friend back home...After hearing my protocol..He about flipped...STOP..he calmed down and explained I was doing it ALL wrong..I could have easily died or been on insulin forever...Yep that was it for me..

Since then I kinda cringe when I see INSULIN in any thread.. Knowledge is key but some jump head 1st and disregard the warnings or proper use or that more is better..I totally agree with Monte on this one..and Monte is 100 times more knowledgeable than me.."No one on forum should be using insulin"...now maybe there are some Real professional power lifters or BBs.. but I'm thinking 90 to 98% of us are ALL novices..

Not to take anything away from this thread..talking about it is Good..but the risk needs to be very clear..if you don't know..you shouldn't be using it..gear is dangerous enough but HGH... insulin..is a whole different game..
 
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