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    Quote Originally Posted by JaceBon View Post
    See though this is the kind of answer I wasnt looking for. I think the ďgym rats dont need thatĒ could apply to any PED. Im gonna try it at some point, I just wanted to get some solid advice in this thread so I can do it smart and safe.
    Start low. Sides will kick in about 2 weeks in. Dial back when sides start. Or suffer through them. Not sleeping takes it's toll though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multislacking View Post
    If it were me, I'd wait. You're already running 3 compounds, and for the average gym rat, there's not really a need to run more. And when you start talking about swapping things in and out, most guys are just starting to hit the point where one compound is starting to work and then they switch to something else. It's like reaching top speed in one car and then saying, "let me stop and get in this other car."

    Tren sides are brutal. A test/mast/tren cycle is nice though. Just start reasonable and don't go crazy. I see you asking a lot of things about tren and a lot of guys agree the sides are not worth the benefits.
    You aint lying, the first tren I ran I was on the "insane side" and didn't even realize it. My wife had to tell me that I was scaring her before I realized what was up. I pulled back on the dosing for 6 weeks and then have been able to run it and normal doses just fine. The sweating in your sleep thingy sux too.... I am on my last tren run now for sometime if not forever. It makes you insanely strong, quickly no doubt. I needed fast results and paid the price. Now I am at a decent weight/size/strength again I just do not see the need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multislacking View Post
    Start low. Sides will kick in about 2 weeks in. Dial back when sides start. Or suffer through them. Not sleeping takes it's toll though.
    Honestly I dont think the sleep will be the biggest problem. I would sleep for 12 hours if I didnít have alarm clocks. I can sleep like a mofo. But I already sweat. A lot. I have hyperhydrosis and not just in my arm pits. Im more than likely gonna be carrying 2 extra shirts with me at all times when I run tren. 😅
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    I for sure wonít be fucking around with high doses. Thats why Iíd be running mast with it. Ive heard plenty of people say mast kind of synergies with it so I would be able to get away with running the bare minimum and still get the same good results.
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    Kickstart with...tren! DunDunDuuun

    Quote Originally Posted by JaceBon View Post
    So reading some of the other things on here about running without test Iím getting real curious. My blast in a few weeks was supposed to consist of 500TestE/week 400MastE/week for 10 weeks with 50mg anavar for 6-8weeks (results depending)

    my question is...what do yall think of giving this a kick in the nads with some tren ace in the beginning? This would be my first time using tren so if it sounds like its gonna be a bit brutal please say. I was thinking of just doing something like 100 tren/week for the first 5 weeks on top of all this..but when I was reading about test free runs I got the crazy idea of running tren by itself at 200mg for 3 weeks before even starting the cycle and then dropping it when I add the test and mast.

    I am on trt so I dont have pct to worry about, and I dont think my doctor would be pissed if I return in 4-6 months and my levels are a little off (as long as things arent too bad). The thing Iím most worried about is the sides that might come out of this. Ive read that running tren without test = less sides so thats what gave me these crazy ideas. Let me know what you guys think.
    Tren by itself for 3 weeks sounds fín amazing. Do it bro!

    JK. I was being sarcastic. Tren would give you the androgen your body needs but without testosterone to convert to estrogen youíll crash it. Your boner would no longer work. You need estrogen for your body to perform normally.

    And whyís everyone want to do test free cycles? Testosterone is what makes you a man so dont take it away. Sure you could use Tren and dbol and probably still function like a man but why fuck around? Always run at least a TRT level.

    And Iíll echo the other advice given: you donít need Tren. Pick other compounds first.


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    Quote Originally Posted by JaceBon View Post
    Honestly I dont think the sleep will be the biggest problem. I would sleep for 12 hours if I didnít have alarm clocks. I can sleep like a mofo. But I already sweat. A lot. I have hyperhydrosis and not just in my arm pits. Im more than likely gonna be carrying 2 extra shirts with me at all times when I run tren. 
    Wait till you wake up swimming in your own sweat. Literally. Then tell me how easy it is to sleep. Then you start the vicious hot/cold cycle of flipping covers back and forth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bft84 View Post
    I think going low carb on tren is a mistake. It makes most guys look flat and stringy and feel hypo all the time.
    I cant do it but good for those guys who can, everyone is different. Tren is one of the compounds that will have the most drastic differences between users.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MustardTiger View Post
    There is no reason to be using tren outside of a being a seasoned competitor with many cycles under your belt and needing to take things to the next level. Tren will NOT give you better results versus other options outside such circumstances, all that will happen is you will get more side effects, just don't do it, please trust me on this its not worth it, you will likely get a laundry list of side effects especially if you stay on it awhile, expect at least 3-4 negative side effects and for virtually nothing since you could use other stuff and get same results at your level
    Not questioning you, just wanting to gauge opinion for curiosity - "other stuff" - I am assuming Primo? What else would you consider viable alternatives?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sponx View Post
    Not questioning you, just wanting to gauge opinion for curiosity - "other stuff" - I am assuming Primo? What else would you consider viable alternatives?
    he never said what his goal even is but if his goal is just to lose weight anything will work about the same basically, he said he is 15% BF. I'd recommend a nandralone or dhb, mast, or primo. If his goal is to gain weight then numerous compounds would work equal or better, yes nandralone, primo, DHB, higher test, are all a lot safer and just as effective for such goals. Also just adding an oral ontop test is a better choice for both of these goals, any oral really.

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