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    First Cycle: Fucked up My leg after Pinning.

    I wrote a post about this about a week ago but I'd like to expand on it and give some updates.

    I'm a total virgin to steroids, I decided to to a Test-E only cycle at 400mg/week doing a Pin of 1/2 cc into my Quad. Needle was Sterile, Test vial was wiped clean before drawing. I used a 23g needle, Drew the test and expelled any air before injection. So far so good! (I think).

    I wiped the muscle with an alcohol pad then pushed the needle in and slowly injected the 1/2cc into the leg. Everything felt fine.

    Next day, Leg is SUPER sore, hard to walk but I shrug it off since people say virgin muscles don't react well.
    The following day. My leg is totally useless, Hurts like a mother fucker and has swollen up so much I cant see my kneecap. I go to the ER and tell them exactly what I did, They X-ray it, do an ultrasound and finally just say your fine and gave me a prescription for a anti-inflammatory. Leg is going back to normal but its been about a week and I'm still limping around.

    so wtf happened? how do I avoid this again? Should I pin again? Should I use a different muscle? Different gauge like 30g?

    My source appears to be legit with reviews on this site and others. not sure If I can name the brand/source but I don't think the product was bad.

    What do I do?

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    My first thing is check for "Floaters" in the vial although infection is ruled out assuming the doctors didn't give you anything to treat an infection and the anti-inflammatory drugs are fixing the problem. Secondly I wouldn't use a 30g as its going to take forever to draw and inject the compound. Personally I use 18g which I know isn't normal and everyone I know personally uses 21g, my point is needle size likely had nothing to do with it. Beyond that I personally don't have any advice as to why you could be having the reaction your having.

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    My suggestion is donít pin leg bro. I have the same reaction when pinning legs. Itíll hurt. Try different site like shoulders or glutes


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    Quote Originally Posted by SBLabsRep View Post
    My first thing is check for "Floaters" in the vial although infection is ruled out assuming the doctors didn't give you anything to treat an infection and the anti-inflammatory drugs are fixing the problem. Secondly I wouldn't use a 30g as its going to take forever to draw and inject the compound. Personally I use 18g which I know isn't normal and everyone I know personally uses 21g, my point is needle size likely had nothing to do with it. Beyond that I personally don't have any advice as to why you could be having the reaction your having.
    Agreed with this. I use 21 g to 22 g. If you use 23 g and above youíll notice itíll take you a longer time to pin. Youíll have to push super hard just to be able to squeeze the oil in. All the people in here will swear 23 g and above work. I personally donít think so and I work in the health care field.


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    Dont pin quads. Lots of nerves and thing could go wrong.. like they did.

    Put the needle in your glute. 25g is fine.

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    I had that happen to me after maybe 20th pin to quad. I never pin the quads after that.

    Just stick to glutes and shoulders. Also buy insulin needles 27-30 gauge 1/2Ē needles and you wonít even feel them go in and get less scar tissue buildup.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biggd View Post
    I had that happen to me after maybe 20th pin to quad. I never pin the quads after that.

    Just stick to glutes and shoulders. Also buy insulin needles 27-30 gauge 1/2Ē needles and you wonít even feel them go in and get less scar tissue buildup.


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    Genuine question, why 1/2 inch? I've always used 1 1/2 inch cause I have always been taught to use 1 1/2 for large muscles and 1 inch for muscles such as shoulders and calves. I hate unnecessary shit so if I can get away with 1/2 inch or even 3/4 inch I want to haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBLabsRep View Post
    Genuine question, why 1/2 inch? I've always used 1 1/2 inch cause I have always been taught to use 1 1/2 for large muscles and 1 inch for muscles such as shoulders and calves. I hate unnecessary shit so if I can get away with 1/2 inch or even 3/4 inch I want to haha.
    Iím old school and used 1.5Ē 18-23 gauge needles which were hard to come by back then. So using the insulin needles and backloading them has been a game changer for me. You donít need longer than 1/2Ē unless you are really fat. Lots of videos on YouTube explaining it. I backload 3 pins for the week. I use the detachable 1cc insulin pins 26 gauge to pull the total amount out so I can get precise vs using 3cc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biggd View Post
    Iím old school and used 1.5Ē 18-23 gauge needles which were hard to come by back then. So using the insulin needles and backloading them has been a game changer for me. You donít need longer than 1/2Ē unless you are really fat. Lots of videos on YouTube explaining it. I backload 3 pins for the week. I use the detachable 1cc insulin pins 26 gauge to pull the total amount out so I can get precise vs using 3cc.


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    No shit that's fucking brilliant and makes total sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBLabsRep View Post
    Genuine question, why 1/2 inch? I've always used 1 1/2 inch cause I have always been taught to use 1 1/2 for large muscles and 1 inch for muscles such as shoulders and calves. I hate unnecessary shit so if I can get away with 1/2 inch or even 3/4 inch I want to haha.
    I forgot to mention with the insulin needles you also have zero waste of our gear left inside. In the 3cc ones you always lose some in the needle. Some use the detachable insulin needles to withdraw and inject but I prefer to still backload and use the insulin needles that are attached cuz the detachable ones still lose about .3 to .5 units of oil inside.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biggd View Post
    I forgot to mention with the insulin needles you also have zero waste of our gear left inside. In the 3cc ones you always lose some in the needle. Some use the detachable insulin needles to withdraw and inject but I prefer to still backload and use the insulin needles that are attached cuz the detachable ones still lose about .3 to .5 units of oil inside.


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    Yeah I have always noticed that a relevant amount gets stuck in the needle

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBLabsRep View Post
    Yeah I have always noticed that a relevant amount gets stuck in the needle
    Here are the ones I use:

    To draw:

    https://medlabgear.com/products/easy...syringe-barrel

    https://medlabgear.com/products/easy...dermic-needles

    To backload and inject:

    https://medlabgear.com/products/easy...nsulin-syringe


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    Damn they are cheap also

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    Quote Originally Posted by SBLabsRep View Post
    Damn they are cheap also
    Totally and bought a bunch.


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    Are you using 400mg/ml for your first cycle? And you pinned with the same one you drew with?

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