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    So you hear test is test, and you know the ester effects the frequency of pinning and can effect the pip. Also certain test give more bloat than others.. My question though is what benefits do you see from a test mix like sus? Is your pin frequency based off the shortest ester? Is there any genuine difference in the benefits as opposed to running a single test. I know what they say and know what I read. I want to know what you guys have to say first hand.

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    IMO there is no right or wrong answer. It simple depends on a person reaction to which compound they are using. Some guys respond better to Sus and some better to Test E. Itís all matter of what works for you...

    I like to think of it as an experiment and you are the guinea pig my friend...

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    I like my response to test p better then test cyp.

    BUT the extra pinning sucks.

    So when I switch to a longer ester, kinda gives me a break.

    I suppose you have to ask yourself if the extra pinning is worth it? For me it is...


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    Alot of test is based off what you're trying to do and how long of a cycle. More and more body builders are leaning towards sust. The benefits of the 4 esters does make a difference and blood levels are alot more stable vs a single test.
    For me, it's a toss up, I feel stronger on test e vs test c vs sust.
    Sust gives me zero pip vs test e. I'm not sure what's up with the current batch of test e raws and oils floating around but the past 6 months it's got more pip like the raw wasn't purified or something.. 2 different sources for raws and 4 sources from finished oils, it's all given me pip.

    So with that being said, I'll most likely run sust again

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenkelly View Post
    IMO there is no right or wrong answer. It simple depends on a person reaction to which compound they are using. Some guys respond better to Sus and some better to Test E. Itís all matter of what works for you...

    I like to think of it as an experiment and you are the guinea pig my friend...

    Good luck..


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    For sure man! I'm usually a test c guy, will be switching to test e in 4 1/2 weeks. Thanks brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mski0311 View Post
    For sure man! I'm usually a test c guy, will be switching to test e in 4 1/2 weeks. Thanks brother!
    There really is not a big difference in test c and Test E. Maybe a few weeks. But like I said itís a matter of preference. Go ahead and try the switch it may work better for you. Good luck brother.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Twk303 View Post
    Alot of test is based off what you're trying to do and how long of a cycle. More and more body builders are leaning towards sust. The benefits of the 4 esters does make a difference and blood levels are alot more stable vs a single test.
    For me, it's a toss up, I feel stronger on test e vs test c vs sust.
    Sust gives me zero pip vs test e. I'm not sure what's up with the current batch of test e raws and oils floating around but the past 6 months it's got more pip like the raw wasn't purified or something.. 2 different sources for raws and 4 sources from finished oils, it's all given me pip.

    So with that being said, I'll most likely run sust again
    Awesome man. I appreciate you given your experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Augustine5I View Post
    I like my response to test p better then test cyp.

    BUT the extra pinning sucks.

    So when I switch to a longer ester, kinda gives me a break.

    I suppose you have to ask yourself if the extra pinning is worth it? For me it is...


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    Makes sense man thanks!

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    From first cycle on Iíve always used sust . Boy oh boy that pip and those knots in the virgin muscle was crazy painful and sore, was that just because the muscle was new to injections or was that just Sust in general ? Been thinking of trying another ester just to see if I can tell a difference . Love the sust !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano22 View Post
    From first cycle on Iíve always used sust . Boy oh boy that pip and those knots in the virgin muscle was crazy painful and sore, was that just because the muscle was new to injections or was that just Sust in general ? Been thinking of trying another ester just to see if I can tell a difference . Love the sust !!
    I had started Sustanon in born again virgin muscles (hadnít pinned in over 25 years) and had no PIP. But it might be the source that makes the difference. I use Gear Churches Sustanon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stephenkelly View Post
    There really is not a big difference in test c and Test E. Maybe a few weeks. But like I said itís a matter of preference. Go ahead and try the switch it may work better for you. Good luck brother.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Dano22 View Post
    From first cycle on Iíve always used sust . Boy oh boy that pip and those knots in the virgin muscle was crazy painful and sore, was that just because the muscle was new to injections or was that just Sust in general ? Been thinking of trying another ester just to see if I can tell a difference . Love the sust !!
    I did a super test mix and the have 5 different ester and it was 450/ml. That shit knotted me up so bad I couldn't do glutes for a while. In my personal experience it was because is was so potent and because the carrier wasnt the best. I also tried a slightly longer needle and that helped a bit it seemed. I havent tried sus yet because I bought it a while ago and then found a better lab so I will probably never use that sus lol. Will buy and try some in the future though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mski0311 View Post
    I did a super test mix and the have 5 different ester and it was 450/ml. That shit knotted me up so bad I couldn't do glutes for a while. In my personal experience it was because is was so potent and because the carrier wasnt the best. I also tried a slightly longer needle and that helped a bit it seemed. I havent tried sus yet because I bought it a while ago and then found a better lab so I will probably never use that sus lol. Will buy and try some in the future though.
    the reason u got pip most likely is the 450mg/ml, not because it was sust. Don't let that keep u from doing sust., just get some normal 250mg/ml and try it again, if that's what u want to run. Personally, i've tried every ester and test e just works the best FOR ME- all things considered. Good Luck! (and just remember everyone is diff- u need too experiment and figure out what works best FOR YOU)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mski0311 View Post
    So you hear test is test, and you know the ester effects the frequency of pinning and can effect the pip. Also certain test give more bloat than others.. My question though is what benefits do you see from a test mix like sus? Is your pin frequency based off the shortest ester? Is there any genuine difference in the benefits as opposed to running a single test. I know what they say and know what I read. I want to know what you guys have to say first hand.
    If you ask top bodybuilders in 90īs they all love sustanon ( when is real sustanon is an amazing compound ) , but to take all from it you should shoot ED to use all the esters the best way .

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