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    Better oral for second cycle ?

    Iím going to be doing my first cycle in the very near future which will be just test so I know how it feels on itís own. For the next cycle Iím planning on adding either Epistane or Tbol to the test. I know epi is labeled as a prohormone and not sold here but if being honest itís just an oral steroid. Iíve narrowed it down to these two because from all the research Iíve done, it seems these two are the best when it comes to lean and dry gains, while having the least amount of sides and aromatization. Which would be the better of the two for a first oral? Or any other suggestion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaesarTheApe View Post
    Iím going to be doing my first cycle in the very near future which will be just test so I know how it feels on itís own. For the next cycle Iím planning on adding either Epistane or Tbol to the test. I know epi is labeled as a prohormone and not sold here but if being honest itís just an oral steroid. Iíve narrowed it down to these two because from all the research Iíve done, it seems these two are the best when it comes to lean and dry gains, while having the least amount of sides and aromatization. Which would be the better of the two for a first oral? Or any other suggestion?
    Welcome here. Second cycle you can add another injectable like deca or boldenone or just add an oral : if goal is bulking go for dianabol , if cutting go anavar or turinabol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MONSTRO View Post
    Welcome here. Second cycle you can add another injectable like deca or boldenone or just add an oral : if goal is bulking go for dianabol , if cutting go anavar or turinabol
    Think Iíll go for Tbol, thinks

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    Epistane is one of the best orals every made. Run it with your first cycle, 50mg/day for 6-8 weeks.

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    never done epistane, but for what u want- lean,dry gains w/ no sides to speak of- T-bol would work great. (And don't jump ahead of urself- u may just enjoy the test so much-u may just decide too stick w/ it alone) Nobody says u have to do orals!- Good Luck and welcome to the forum!

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    Man. I love epistane. Tbol never did a thing for me. Epistane literally stripped fat and built muscle fast. I gotta know where are you getting it? Because I havenít had any since it was banned

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bft84 View Post
    Man. I love epistane. Tbol never did a thing for me. Epistane literally stripped fat and built muscle fast. I gotta know where are you getting it? Because I havenít had any since it was banned
    Behemoth Labz

    They have all the PH's. Injectable versions too.

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    Really another run of Test but a higher dose to see how you respond to that and if AI's are needed..is the smart watch to go... I know that's not what you want to hear but it Will give you a great Foundation for future use..

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTM View Post
    Epistane is one of the best orals every made. Run it with your first cycle, 50mg/day for 6-8 weeks.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bft84 View Post
    Man. I love epistane. Tbol never did a thing for me. Epistane literally stripped fat and built muscle fast. I gotta know where are you getting it? Because I havenít had any since it was banned
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    Behemoth Labz

    They have all the PH's. Injectable versions too.
    Wow I love me some epistane, have to check them out

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    Quote Originally Posted by STTM View Post
    Behemoth Labz

    They have all the PH's. Injectable versions too.
    Same as var as itís dht but how different?


    What kills, survives. L

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXL View Post
    Same as var as itís dht but how different?


    What kills, survives. L
    To me var epistane arenít on the same universe. Iíd eat like shit and still lose fat and gain muscle. It worked like damn near magic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bft84 View Post
    To me var epistane arenít on the same universe. Iíd eat like shit and still lose fat and gain muscle. It worked like damn near magic.
    20mg a day?


    What kills, survives. L

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXL View Post
    20mg a day?


    What kills, survives. L
    i ran it at 30mg a day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XXL View Post
    Same as var as itís dht but how different?


    What kills, survives. L
    Blows Var away in my opinion. More size, more strength, more fullness and hardness. Surprised it's not more popular.. I think people figured since it is a PH, that it's not as strong as other steroids, and that is certainly not the case. And then when the PH ban happened in the USA, it pretty much disappeared.

    Dosing is usually anywhere from 30-50mg daily. I've ran it up to 100mg/day with no sides besides a little lethargy, and was straight jacked. Like a combo of being on anadrol and tren together.

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    Holy shit youíve convinced me haha. How many mg a day should I use on my first run? And would it be a good idea to throw it in at the end of my first cycle or wait till the second one ?

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