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    The xyosted test e made for subq is :5ml auto injector 27g 8mm . Just for reference but : it is only once per week. Scar tissue will be a problem until they can make it go through a 32-32G 4mm like the gh pen or needle-less (which they have but no big pharma has bought the tech from the 4 main companies for test. They use for other medicine. They have test nasal gel but it is super short acting :3x a day!

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    Personally yes, switched to EOD. Picked up a massage gun on Amazon and helped break up the scar tissue so glutes we're ready again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackBear View Post
    My doc says I can try pinning Every day. Right now Iím pinning eod. He says people who have changed pinning to every day donít go back since they fine they like it better. I guess they fine it more stable levels and lower estradiol levels.

    I was wondering if anyone has tried this? I donít mind trying it, if it is actually is better, but seems like a pain and maybe a little more time consuming.

    my last labs were taken a few months ago. Labs were taken on a Friday before my next injection, little higher levels but doc was okay with it. Normally I wait and get labs on a Monday before my next injection and they are usually little lower more in ďrangeď.

    Total test: 1260 (300-1080)
    Free test: 330 (47-244)
    % Free test: 2.7 (1.6-2.9)
    Shbg: 21 (11-80)
    Estradiol: 25
    What test dose are you on with these numbers?


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    Quote Originally Posted by gashred777 View Post
    What test dose are you on with these numbers?


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    .28mg x 3 week 168 mg total
    .27iu hcg x3 week 810iu
    .25 anastrozole 3 to 4 x week

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    Started trt a few months ago pinning 100mg (.5mL) every 3.5 days. Got my bloods after 8 weeks and made the switch to daily subQ to see if that will help lower estradiol (e2). Havenít got my bloodwork done yet to check but I will soon. Only bad thing is I sort of ruined my experiment by starting HCG the same time I went to daily subQ and that rocketed my e2 levels. I went from taking 1/4 pill anastrozole every 3.5 days to taking 1/4 pill every day to not have high e2 sides.

    Practically speaking, I love daily pinning. I use 28G 1/2 inch slin pins. I alternate bw midsection and just jabbing my glutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hapanelo View Post
    Started trt a few months ago pinning 100mg (.5mL) every 3.5 days. Got my bloods after 8 weeks and made the switch to daily subQ to see if that will help lower estradiol (e2). Havenít got my bloodwork done yet to check but I will soon. Only bad thing is I sort of ruined my experiment by starting HCG the same time I went to daily subQ and that rocketed my e2 levels. I went from taking 1/4 pill anastrozole every 3.5 days to taking 1/4 pill every day to not have high e2 sides.

    Practically speaking, I love daily pinning. I use 28G 1/2 inch slin pins. I alternate bw midsection and just jabbing my glutes.
    keep me posted on your lab work. Also, what was you e2 on eod?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaxz View Post
    I also back load pins for the week . So the pin cost is about the same
    Wait, you reuse the syringe? Sorry for the noob Q, but is that safe? I plan to use 29G insulin ones and new one every day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyfish View Post
    Wait, you reuse the syringe? Sorry for the noob Q, but is that safe? I plan to use 29G insulin ones and new one every day.
    Never reuse the same pins. I backload and use the 30G insulin pins and works great.


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    My last run was eod and after 12 weeks I was burned out from pinning ed would get old fast..

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    Iíd be worried about scar tissue. And doing it for the rest of your life on trt. Thatís a lot of shots daily to create a large amount of scar tissue. And the test doesnít absorb the same in scar tissue. When I hit scar tissue. It hurts. Thereís a spot I use to be able to pin all the time. And now if I do it. Itís like the gear takes weeks to absorb. And can feel a knot after pinning. Itís craziest thing. The other day it was down and had been making sure to not hit that spot anymore. And I was in a hurry. And pinned just a little to high to the spot I pinned so much on both sides. And it was like a serious ball that just wouldnít absorb. Felt like golf all for a week. And hurt to rub to try to break it down. Idk. Every day is a lot of pinning. Better get good at pinning all over your body. Me personally. I donít have the flexibility to pin my own delts. Have to have my gf do it for me. And too scared to try legs. Because the work I do. And hearing they are more sensitive than anywhere else. Just be careful and mindful of scar tissue. Itís real. I thought I would be good every other day for few years same spot. The only spot I am comfortable pinning. And over time. Itís trickier now than when I first started. And still have atleast 40 years to go

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    I have lots of scar tissue in my glutes from pinning with huge harpoons 18g to 22g back in the day which is the only pins we could get back then. I was not looking forward to pinning 3x week because of my past experiences.

    But now that Iím using 30g insulin pins I wouldnít mind doing it ED if I had to. You usually donít even feel it go in. I backload all 3 days at once and use a massage gun on the spot I inject for about 1-2 minutes to break up any potential scar tissue and to possibly help adsorption.


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    Quote Originally Posted by biggd View Post
    I have lots of scar tissue in my glutes from pinning with huge harpoons 18g to 22g back in the day which is the only pins we could get back then. I was not looking forward to pinning 3x week because of my past experiences.

    Speaking of harpoons, did you ever use the redi-jects from Mexico back in the day? Very unlikely to be faked so they were sought after, but that needle was like a toothpick and hurt like a bitch! Ideally one would transfer the juice to something more sane, but desperate times, and all...


    To the original poster, I do three times a week with the smallest pin I can for test cypionate/enanthate. I have much better results than from once a week.

    Some doctors prescribe every 2 weeks, and this is them being lazy if they administer the injections themselves, or ignorant when they don't know the ester's half-life and they do not consider the fate of the hapless patient bouncing around from 2000 to 200 test levels every fortnight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clive Mossmoon View Post
    Speaking of harpoons, did you ever use the redi-jects from Mexico back in the day? Very unlikely to be faked so they were sought after, but that needle was like a toothpick and hurt like a bitch! Ideally one would transfer the juice to something more sane, but desperate times, and all...


    To the original poster, I do three times a week with the smallest pin I can for test cypionate/enanthate. I have much better results than from once a week.

    Some doctors prescribe every 2 weeks, and this is them being lazy if they administer the injections themselves, or ignorant when they don't know the ester's half-life and they do not consider the fate of the hapless patient bouncing around from 2000 to 200 test levels every fortnight.
    Yeah we got those all the time but I did transfer over to another syringe


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