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    is it the gear or me....

    I have many cycles under my belt but did lay off for a couple years mid cycle due to a work issue. I just started my cycle (Test E, Deca and Mast) a few weeks ago. In the past I have always used my glutes as an injection site, alternating right and left, with no issues....ever. Now, however; I am getting a small lump and hurts like hell. When I touch the lump, it is warm. The pain subsides about midweek and has gone away in time for the next pin. For reference, I have never had luck with quad pins or I would rotate them into the mix.

    I am injecting 2.5 cc using a 25g 1" pin. Could it be the gear, the gear not penetrating or just the now virgin muscle.

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    what size needle are you using? try delts thats my go to spot

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    25 x 1" should be fine unless you have a fat ass, then 25 x 1 1/2". You need to add more injection sites. VG is the easiest and my favorite. That is a good starting point, but you should try other areas as well. I use a 25 x 1" for glutes and VG, and 25 x 5/8" for quads, delts, and pecs with no issues. I will try lats soon, just to add another spot. Good luck sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raedel View Post
    25 x 1" should be fine unless you have a fat ass, then 25 x 1 1/2". You need to add more injection sites. VG is the easiest and my favorite. That is a good starting point, but you should try other areas as well. I use a 25 x 1" for glutes and VG, and 25 x 5/8" for quads, delts, and pecs with no issues. I will try lats soon, just to add another spot. Good luck sir.
    ok I see you posted that, I use a 22G to draw then switch to a 25g, or 27g. most likely its the amount of oil. try showering first and getting relaxed. I pin in the morning so it doesnt just sit or I end up sleeping on the site. when you push the air out push a little oil out to lube the needle

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    thanks Heckler, I also use a 22g to draw. I have historically felt pain for days when injecting anywhere but my glutes. My delts are too tight and I cant even imagine pinning there....

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    Quote Originally Posted by heckler7 View Post
    what size needle are you using? try delts thats my go to spot
    I second this motion.

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    Could be many thinks , like not real good gear? or you inject one area to frequently ( take one week to inject same spot again ) . if is red and hot try to use ice and taker iboprufen , if dont go away find a doctor and tell it

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    2.5cc through 1" x 25ga. That's a lot of volume and a lot of hand shaking getting it through the smaller gauge. The older you get, the more your hand shakes, even if it you don't realize it. If it were me, I'd lower the volume and learn to rotate other sites into injection schedule. Quads aren't that bad if done correctly. VG, delts, pecs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multislacking View Post
    2.5cc through 1" x 25ga. That's a lot of volume and a lot of hand shaking getting it through the smaller gauge. The older you get, the more your hand shakes, even if it you don't realize it. If it were me, I'd lower the volume and learn to rotate other sites into injection schedule. Quads aren't that bad if done correctly. VG, delts, pecs...
    Yeah that high of volume I always use a 23g. Don't shake around because it's easy to push, which is what causes a lot of the irritation

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    Quote Originally Posted by Multislacking View Post
    2.5cc through 1" x 25ga. That's a lot of volume and a lot of hand shaking getting it through the smaller gauge. The older you get, the more your hand shakes, even if it you don't realize it. If it were me, I'd lower the volume and learn to rotate other sites into injection schedule. Quads aren't that bad if done correctly. VG, delts, pecs...
    I use 25g 1" or 5/8" depending where I am pinning, and frequently pin 3cc with no issues at all.
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    i've always injected in glutes only w/ 23ga, 1.5 in and it's deep enough and big enough where you don't have to strain ie shake too much. a lot of guys worry about the big rigs causing scar tissue-maybe i'm lucky, but never had a problem. And very rarely have pip- just my .02 cents (btw- always used BD brand pins, the best imo) and do 2.5 to 3 cc's w/o issue
    Last edited by hot rod; 11-12-2020 at 12:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GainTrain View Post
    I use 25g 1" or 5/8" depending where I am pinning, and frequently pin 3cc with no issues at all.
    I'd be sore for a few days pinning that much (as would many). Easier to split it up, imo. I'm envious of guys like you. About 2.5cc was all I could ever tolerate. And that would usually leave a lump for about a week.

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    I push 3cc into my glutes each pin, left glute is harder for me to rotate around too but I get it done. No issues at all. I'm on a m/w/F pin. I push through a 25x1 without issues.
    I do notice if I'm shaky and the syringe giggles alot I'll get a little tender spot for a few days but nothing bad at all.

    The quads are my go to for daily pins.. Super easy but also don't push more then 1cc at a time

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    Me tinks it's da gearz braddah.

    Thicker oils always give me welts and issues. DHB seemed to give me welts too.

    The Test prop and primo I'm using is very thin and viscous and gives me no issues.

    So it may be da compound and/or da carrier oil type.

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    Question that I don't see you mentioning or others asking...

    Is the gear the same gear as you've ran before? Same company, same compounds? If different source this time around maybe looking into what the carrier is from before and now... Maybe you've discovered something that makes the muscle mad

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