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    Cop didnt kill him, GEORGE FLOYD WASN’T ASPHYXIATED

    POSTED ON MAY 29, 2020 BY JOHN HINDERAKER IN CRIME, POLICING
    MEDICAL EXAMINER: GEORGE FLOYD WASN’T ASPHYXIATED

    From the first hours after George Floyd died on Lake Street in Minneapolis, the rush to convict the officers who took him into custody seemed unstoppable. The frenzy was fueled by a video of one of the officers kneeling on Floyd, seemingly on his throat, while the officers waited for an ambulance to arrive. Every politician in Minnesota (and elsewhere) denounced the video as “appalling,” “disgusting,” and so on, and called for the policemen’s heads. Only a few brave souls suggested that we should at least wait to learn the cause of Floyd’s death before stringing anyone up. Or burning anything down.

    Today we got the first information from Hennepin County’s Medical Examiner, in an attachment to the criminal complaint against officer Derek Chauvin:

    The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (ME) conducted Mr. Floyd’s autopsy on May 26, 2020. The full report of the ME is pending but the ME has made the following preliminary findings. The autopsy revealed no physical findings that support a diagnosis of traumatic asphyxia or strangulation. Mr. Floyd had underlying health conditions including coronary artery disease and hypertensive heart disease. The combined effects of Mr. Floyd being restrained by the police, his underlying health conditions and any potential intoxicants in his system likely contributed to his death.


    Emphasis added. Further, the complaint’s Statement of Probable Cause recites that Floyd complained of being unable to breathe well before Officer Chauvin put his knee on Floyd’s neck:
    While standing outside the car, Mr. Floyd began saying and repeating that he could not breathe.


    Does this mean that the officers’ handling of the situation was a model of fine police work? Of course not. And the manner in which they handled Floyd could have contributed to his death, according to the Medical Examiner. But the outrage over the Floyd case has mostly been based on the assumption that Officer Chauvin choked him to death by kneeling on his throat. If that assumption is false, the story is far more nuanced.
    There is a great deal about this incident that we do not know. To cite just one example, we don’t know, as far as I am aware, whether Floyd was, in fact, the person who tried to pass a counterfeit bill. We also don’t know whether drugs played a role in his death; the Medical Examiner refers to “potential intoxicants in his system.” The full report will contain chemical analyses of any such intoxicants. Maybe there weren’t any, but at this point, no one has ruled out the possibility that Floyd died not on account of police brutality, but from a drug overdose.

    It may be that when all the facts are in, we will conclude that George Floyd died as a result of negligence on the part of Minneapolis policemen. If so, there will be plenty of time for an accounting. But today’s disclosure of the Medical Examiner’s preliminary findings reminds us why lynch mobs have always been a bad idea, and calls for overnight justice are nearly always misguided.



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    That’s one hell of a plot twist.
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    This is why the cops were not arrested as soon as the video being shown . Have to show a cause of death but if that really is the truth we will never know .
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    The video of Floyd and he was detained, cuffed sitting on the floor prior to his execution, and didn't seem combative. I usually side with police in these situations because there's an obvious case of resisting arrest, and in that case its natural selection imo.

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    Ironic this comes out the day after the city was on fire. I would put more credence on this report but I saw the video soo....Family is having their own independent autopsy done, which is probably a good idea.


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    I don’t know man


    sounds like peeps are trying to prevent more illogical, irrational emotional burning of cities down.

    If he was sitting in the back of a cruiser and died then well... it would look a lot better for Minneapolis PD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _BeastMode View Post
    Ironic this comes out the day after the city was on fire. I would put more credence on this report but I saw the video soo....Family is having their own independent autopsy done, which is probably a good idea.


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    i agree , exactly what I figured.

    damage control

    but... how does burning your community down equate “standing up for innocent people dying?”

    Could you imagine the world we’d live in, if the white community scorched the earth everytime a white person was wrongfully killed in police custody?

    not trying to be insensitive, just trying to understand why that’s the go to when these things happen.

    also heard the riot was provoked by a fellow officer... not sure if it’s true... was CNN article lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milford King View Post
    i agree , exactly what I figured.

    damage control

    but... how does burning your community down equate “standing up for innocent people dying?”

    Could you imagine the world we’d live in, if the white community scorched the earth everytime a white person was wrongfully killed in police custody?

    not trying to be insensitive, just trying to understand why that’s the go to when these things happen.

    also heard the riot was provoked by a fellow officer... not sure if it’s true... was CNN article lol
    I’ve never been an advocate for looting or burning or even marching. It’s fucking hot and I hate smelling like outside so I’m a no-go on the march. I get the anger but burning shit down is no solution, but it makes for great tv. And heard the same thing about the officer provoking the riot. There’s pics of him all over social media. Pretty fucked up all around.


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    I for one, dream of a perfect crime free world with absolutely no cops whatsoever. Am I right guys?!?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by IronRage View Post
    I for one, dream of a perfect crime free world with absolutely no cops whatsoever. Am I right guys?!?!?
    we wouldn’t need cops if we just built a wall around the riff raff... lol


    I had a pretty good idea once (inspired by George Carlin) ... we carve out a portion of a state and wall it up ... divide it (With more walls) into 4 sections... section 1 we fill with all generational welfare recipients, section 2 all LGBT and non believers of genders, section 3 all career criminals and section 4 all sexual offenders/deviants. Put cameras and fly camera drones in there and televise as part of a reality tv show.

    that’d clean the streets up pretty good...

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    The fucken guy was choked out.. fuck all the bull shit. I'm not a big fan of coons .. but wrong is wrong. This is fucked up on so many levels. I disagree with rioting to support a cause. Dude was literally murdered. I don't give a fuck what else is said. My brother is a Chicago cop... poor conduct. Period. You could be next if you allow a punk ass cop to get away with that shit. Situation was handled inappropriately, no cop should have his knee on your neck. Either way. It's time to roll in the military to control the shines that think looting and rioting supports a cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milford King View Post
    we wouldn’t need cops if we just built a wall around the riff raff... lol


    I had a pretty good idea once (inspired by George Carlin) ... we carve out a portion of a state and wall it up ... divide it (With more walls) into 4 sections... section 1 we fill with all generational welfare recipients, section 2 all LGBT and non believers of genders, section 3 all career criminals and section 4 all sexual offenders/deviants. Put cameras and fly camera drones in there and televise as part of a reality tv show.

    that’d clean the streets up pretty good...
    That’s incredibly racist, you’re way out of touch. Every American citizen deserves the right to be a criminal and get away with it.

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    they caused his death. no getting around that. they’re responsible for a homicide. they checked his pulse and the piece of shit cop kept his knee on his throat for almost 3 minutes AFTER there was no pulse. there’s no excuse for that except for intent to commit murder. but I wouldn’t go as far as saying murder one. what’s been released so far as far as we know murder 2 seems more likely the charge he should’ve been charged with.

    floyed was in handcuffs laying on his stomach with 3 police officers on top of him.

    once he’s in cuffs it’s over. no reason to use excessive force. there’s also no reason to keep your knee on his throat for 8 1/2 minutes
    while handcuffed behind your back laying on your stomach.

    they all need to be held responsible for this his death.

    murder two for the guy with the knee on throat, manslaughter for the other 2. The third one the Chinese guy, he should be fired for not intervening like was already done. imo

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