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Not your typical test/Tren cycle help advice

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Can get your own labs at private MD labs then go to a lab Corp or Quest and get them drawn depending on which place you pick on private MD. It won't hit your medical record that way and only you will be able to see the results.

Adding tren on top of no energy and what I suspect is crashed estrogen is a terrible idea.

Additionally: Get the non capped Test and an ultra sensitive estrogen. If you just get an estrogen it's going to not give you a number. It's going to say less than 30 or something stupid. You need an ultra sensitive estrogen
It will much more interesting conversation with the VA why your test in through the roof and lipids are off and E2 is crashed. I know what they are gonna say
 
I wouldn’t add anything and go get bloods right away. Adding more test or anything might just add to the problem. Get bloods and make adjustments based off of the results and then go from there.
Yep.
 
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If either one of you crashed your estrogen, your joints ached, and your dick didn't work, you're not gonna wait on a blood draw appointment and the results to come back and all the while feeling like shit if there's something that could make you feel better pretty quickly. Practice what you preach.

And lol @ boykinben being so buttburt. Bro you've been here since July. Sit back and listen instead of talking so much
 
This guy absolutely crashed his estrogen with too much adex and letro on top of it.

I'd drop the AIs and continue the test until I felt better, then get bloods and add back in if bloods dictate and retest after adding the AI to make sure it put you in range. If you drop everything and test bloods, you might as well just drop the whole cycle, PCT and then start the cycle after you recover.

OP, are you considering dropping the whole cycle?
 
If either one of you crashed your estrogen, your joints ached, and your dick didn't work, you're not gonna wait on a blood draw appointment and the results to come back and all the while feeling like shit if there's something that could make you feel better pretty quickly. Practice what you preach.

And lol @ boykinben being so buttburt. Bro you've been here since July. Sit back and listen instead of talking so much
Crappy advise is crappy advise no long how long you have been on a forum. Doesn’t make you any smarter. If I guy had a gyno flare up and having issues and over took an AI why would you add more test or anything for that matter. A smart person would say don’t change anything and get bloods. That’s common sense but I guess that’s not that common for some. I have plenty of experience in life outside of a forum. And everyone agreed with my advise but you? So maybe you should listen more and exercise caution and common sense. Just advise from a guy here since July since that has some meaning I guess??? Stupid come back bro like your stupid advise
 
If either one of you crashed your estrogen, your joints ached, and your dick didn't work, you're not gonna wait on a blood draw appointment and the results to come back and all the while feeling like shit if there's something that could make you feel better pretty quickly. Practice what you preach.

And lol @ boykinben being so buttburt. Bro you've been here since July. Sit back and listen instead of talking so much
I wouldn’t add anything without knowing exactly what the problem is. I can get results from a blood test, estrogens specifically, in less than 24 hours. Not wanting to wait makes sense though, especially for people who can’t wait a couple of months to see results in the gym or can’t feelz the gearz after two shots or three pills.
If you start taking an AI based on nipple feelz without knowing there is an actual estro problem then you get what you deserve.
Yeah exactly and he said it wasn’t practical 🤷🏻‍♂️
I thought you were offended by me since you said “practical”, which I used, my not having read where OP also used it in a response. I read a question and respond, not needing to read other responses to influence my opinion.

Using the VA is going to be a real can o’ worms. Those people ARE NOT on our side.
 
I wouldn’t add anything without knowing exactly what the problem is. I can get results from a blood test, estrogens specifically, in less than 24 hours. Not wanting to wait makes sense though, especially for people who can’t wait a couple of months to see results in the gym or can’t feelz the gearz after two shots or three pills.
If you start taking an AI based on nipple feelz without knowing there is an actual estro problem then you get what you deserve.

I thought you were offended by me since you said “practical”, which I used, my not having read where OP also used it in a response. I read a question and respond, not needing to read other responses to influence my opinion.

Using the VA is going to be a real can o’ worms. Those people ARE NOT on our side.
No haha I wouldn’t be offended by you brother it was what the OP said to me lol. And I know when you give advise it’s always from a common sense and knowledgeable standpoint and I follow it 100 percent of the time when I read it. Yeah using the VA is asking for issues
 
Crappy advise is crappy advise no long how long you have been on a forum. Doesn’t make you any smarter. If I guy had a gyno flare up and having issues and over took an AI why would you add more test or anything for that matter. A smart person would say don’t change anything and get bloods. That’s common sense but I guess that’s not that common for some. I have plenty of experience in life outside of a forum. And everyone agreed with my advise but you? So maybe you should listen more and exercise caution and common sense. Just advise from a guy here since July since that has some meaning I guess??? Stupid come back bro like your stupid advise
Go parrot to someone else.

It's pretty simple shit honestly. Drop the AIs, get nolva that doesn't reduce/stop conversion for the gyno, keep up the test shots to get some estrogen back going, get bloods to dial in your AI dose. Or kill the cycle altogether.

It really doesn't matter that much to me. It was more funny that someone didn't stop asking questions because a noob told them what they thought he should do then the you melted.
 
Go parrot to someone else.

It's pretty simple shit honestly. Drop the AIs, get nolva that doesn't reduce/stop conversion for the gyno, keep up the test shots to get some estrogen back going, get bloods to dial in your AI dose. Or kill the cycle altogether.

It really doesn't matter that much to me. It was more funny that someone didn't stop asking questions because a noob told them what they thought he should do then the you melted.
Yet you the one idiot who said add a cc of test a week 😂😂😂😂 your as funny as your stupid advise.
 
Yet you the one idiot who said add a cc of test a week 😂😂😂😂 your as funny as your stupid advise.
Bro I really don't want to shit on you but please stfu. It's clear you don't have a lot of experience with this stuff. 1500 posts in 4 months tells me you need to hang around a little longer and talk a little less. Have a great evening
 
Bro I really don't want to shit on you but please stfu. It's clear you don't have a lot of experience with this stuff. 1500 posts in 4 months tells me you need to hang around a little longer and talk a little less. Have a great evening
You’re an idiot try and say what ever. I didn’t mention your name in a post you mentioned mine. So you clearly wanted my attention, now you have it. It’s a FORUM to talk so I do. I engage with people and a lot of topics not just gear. So if you don’t like it you shut the fuck up and stop mentioning me. 👍🏻
 
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About 4 weeks ago I started a test cyp cycle @ 500mg week. Using arimidex eod. Last week in the evening I noticed some gyno behind my right nipple . I had letro on Hand so I started at .50mg EF. As of right now I have no energy and not really sure what to do at this point. I took my first 100mg dose of Tren ace this morning. Looking to get back on track. Get my energy back in the gym. I am taking advice on whether to taper off cycle. Or what to take and what dose to get back on my feet here. Thanks in advance
Yes, estrogen blocker can cause hormonal changes that also can lead to hot flushes, sleeping, tiredness and low mood etc. tapering the dose can help to maintaining your gains without causing any crash.
 
Okay Guys...You're making me look good..lol
I'm still trying to figure why in the Hell would you throw Tren in this TrainWreck..
You in this jam, due to inexperience and lack of basic estrogen knowledge..and you pin Tren....like WTF.I???
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Not. A. Suggestion. Just a question.
If your e2 is. Crashing like that. Would dbol aid in bring it up. Thought. I've. Seen something about that. Not advice or looking for. Advice.

Was. Just curious if what I remember was correct.

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There is no way in hell you developed Gyno in 4 weeks on 500mg while taking an Adex EOD. Quit eating AIs like tic tacs and get some bloodwork. Also, what are you doing running tren when you are this clueless?
 
Not. A. Suggestion. Just a question.
If your e2 is. Crashing like that. Would dbol aid in bring it up. Thought. I've. Seen something about that. Not advice or looking for. Advice.

Was. Just curious if what I remember was correct.

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It can help some, but if you just pull all AIs and stick to your regular pinning, 500mg week like OP, you'll bounce back fairly quick.
 
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