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Kratom, again…

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Never did a thing for me.
Tried it a few times, maybe didnt do enough, not sure.
Either way, tasted horrible, mixed up like gobshite, so I just tossed it out...
thats how my GF explains her kratom experience LOL

you have to toss and was 2-3 yellow scoops of Old forrest white hulu or you're wasting your time. Ive used every single strain so Im qualified to make an opinion of fact. I use it for the buzz, I dont bullshit myself, anything less than that amount on an empty stomach and I may as well eat a fricken83mg baby tylenol and expect to get a buzz LOL
 
thats how my GF explains her kratom experience LOL

you have to toss and was 2-3 yellow scoops of Old forrest white hulu or you're wasting your time. Ive used every single strain so Im qualified to make an opinion of fact. I use it for the buzz, I dont bullshit myself, anything less than that amount on an empty stomach and I may as well eat a fricken83mg baby tylenol and expect to get a buzz LOL

Zero buzz or "woohoo" for me. But it does even me out and keeps the highs and lows manageable.

"Better living through chemistry."
 
Zero buzz or "woohoo" for me. But it does even me out and keeps the highs and lows manageable.

"Better living through chemistry."
wow, even OF white hulu 3 scoops offers no buzz?
 
wow, even OF white hulu 3 scoops offers no buzz?

No. White gives me a VERY clean awake, energy...like you've had a great night's sleep, was well rested, and a few cups of coffee. Nothing that I would any where near equate with a "buzz" or "let's party" feeling. Having said that, I've never "done drugs" so I can't really compare it to anything. I mean, I've certainly had pain killers, etc after surgeries. But there again, they did next to nothing for me. Including their job, which should have been to relieve pain. The most opiates have ever done for me is stop me up beyond belief. I guess I was born without a party gene.
 
I go full into full blown zombie mode without Kratom.

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I just wanted to put this out there since now I can say it with certainty: that kratom really messed with my head and my body man. Bad.

It’s been a couple weeks and at first after coming off my back pain was ridiculous. I chalked it up to just getting used to feeling it again since kratom really was a god send for the chronic back pain. But now that withdrawals are totally over, it’s feeling much more manageable and I don’t feel like I need kratom to put my socks on.

No more crazy night sweats, and hot flashes, getting my strength and motivation back in the gym and my head is much more clearer and mood is too notch… I feel myself again.

I respect everyone’s individuals choices but I really think new comers should really be warned about that shit. I can totally see how it has the potential to ruin a life… it definitely took a nice chunk out of the quality of mine…

and my bigger point it’s extremely addicting, at a physical level. Coming off my dose (50-80 grams per day with extracts too) was impossible cold Turkey since I had to function enough to take care of the kids and work. I was shaking like I had Parkinson’s and pouring sweat and freezing cold at the same time. Drenched the bed for 7 days straight. Too weak to stand more than a minute, felt like I was on my way out.

What I did this last time was a long slow taper. Just kind of felt it out. Spaced out doses as long as possible. Started to take less doses a day. Went from 3 times a day to 1. Took me over two months of prolonged mild and manageable withdrawal symptoms while I tapered down to 5grams a day at that point I just stopped and it was fairly easy except the body aches.


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Congrats on stopping. Very cool. Kinda jealous

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No. White gives me a VERY clean awake, energy...like you've had a great night's sleep, was well rested, and a few cups of coffee. Nothing that I would any where near equate with a "buzz" or "let's party" feeling. Having said that, I've never "done drugs" so I can't really compare it to anything. I mean, I've certainly had pain killers, etc after surgeries. But there again, they did next to nothing for me. Including their job, which should have been to relieve pain. The most opiates have ever done for me is stop me up beyond belief. I guess I was born without a party gene.
If I didn’t ritualistically take Metamucil I prolly wouldn’t have been able to shit at all for the last 5 years lol
 
Okay I will. I havent used kratom in about 6 months, no cravings, no withdrawls. sound like addiction? Tylenol is highly toxic. if you get extra strength tylenol your max dosage for a day is 4g, that is 2 pills every 4 hours in a day. i do not have an addictive personality but some do. kratom is great to use as medicine, just another tool in your toolbox. sure if you take ridiculous amounts every day you will hurt yourself but that pretty much applies to everything in life.
The secret to kratom is DOSE.

Ive read peoples doses over the years and Ive read some CRAZY doses!

I have used it selectively over the past 5 years now.

A few tips:
1. Dont use the capsules! They can easy constipate you bc the powder is going in as lumps and then the dry powder sticks to the stomach lining, its very fibrous. It also doesnt get absorbed very well.

2. Use the powder and pre-dissolve it!
Kratom powder dissolves easily in hot liquids (coffee, tea, etc...) or use a small amount of alcohol, just enough to soak the amount of kratom you are using. Ex: Half a level teaspoon of kratom powder, 1 level teaspoon of liquor. Stir that up... then add your cold liquid to dillute it and stir again.

3. LOW doses! I start with literally 1/4 of a teaspoon mixed like I described in #2 and consume. Then wait.
We all want instant relief but kratom takes some time to do its thing. If after 3-4 hours you need additional relief then repeat the process.
Even on a bad day of anytype of pain, after 2-3 small doses like this Im gtg.

I see kratom packages labeled that 3-4 grams is a dose! NO WAY!
Thats gonna cause problems either short term or long term.
Ive read guys posts saying they were using 50grams a day! 😳

Thats insane.

If you USE it low dose, as needed, I have personally found that there are no obvious negative side effects, addiction or withdrawls.
It IS NOT an opioid!!!!
It ACTS ON your opioid receptors. Big difference.

I have used it for months everday for injuries then stopped when the injury healed and didnt have any withdrawls etc...

USE it if needed but dont ABUSE it.

Its a tool, not a way to get high.
 
No. White gives me a VERY clean awake, energy...like you've had a great night's sleep, was well rested, and a few cups of coffee. Nothing that I would any where near equate with a "buzz" or "let's party" feeling. Having said that, I've never "done drugs" so I can't really compare it to anything. I mean, I've certainly had pain killers, etc after surgeries. But there again, they did next to nothing for me. Including their job, which should have been to relieve pain. The most opiates have ever done for me is stop me up beyond belief. I guess I was born without a party gene.
no bro, you're taking it wrong lol


I hold a fuckingmasters degree when it comes to catching a buzz and if you can take 3 scoops of OF white hulu on a an empty stomach and feel nothing like a buzz, I will fly to you and do the same with you just tot prove your full of shit. we can video it lol
 
Get Shredded!
thats how my GF explains her kratom experience LOL

you have to toss and was 2-3 yellow scoops of Old forrest white hulu or you're wasting your time. Ive used every single strain so Im qualified to make an opinion of fact. I use it for the buzz, I dont bullshit myself, anything less than that amount on an empty stomach and I may as well eat a fricken83mg baby tylenol and expect to get a buzz LOL

Bro you realize none of us have this little yellow scoop you use keep referencing a as standard tool of measurement, right?

How many grams do u take? With no tolerance 8-10 grams gave me a nice buzz but after I got hooked I literally only took it to not be dope sick.


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no bro, you're taking it wrong lol


I hold a fuckingmasters degree when it comes to catching a buzz and if you can take 3 scoops of OF white hulu on a an empty stomach and feel nothing like a buzz, I will fly to you and do the same with you just tot prove your full of shit. we can video it lol

Kratom definitely gives u a buzz. The first month I was using it I kept taking too much snd couldn’t even see straight enough to shave my face!


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The secret to kratom is DOSE.

Ive read peoples doses over the years and Ive read some CRAZY doses!

I have used it selectively over the past 5 years now.

A few tips:
1. Dont use the capsules! They can easy constipate you bc the powder is going in as lumps and then the dry powder sticks to the stomach lining, its very fibrous. It also doesnt get absorbed very well.

2. Use the powder and pre-dissolve it!
Kratom powder dissolves easily in hot liquids (coffee, tea, etc...) or use a small amount of alcohol, just enough to soak the amount of kratom you are using. Ex: Half a level teaspoon of kratom powder, 1 level teaspoon of liquor. Stir that up... then add your cold liquid to dillute it and stir again.

3. LOW doses! I start with literally 1/4 of a teaspoon mixed like I described in #2 and consume. Then wait.
We all want instant relief but kratom takes some time to do its thing. If after 3-4 hours you need additional relief then repeat the process.
Even on a bad day of anytype of pain, after 2-3 small doses like this Im gtg.

I see kratom packages labeled that 3-4 grams is a dose! NO WAY!
Thats gonna cause problems either short term or long term.
Ive read guys posts saying they were using 50grams a day!

Thats insane.

If you USE it low dose, as needed, I have personally found that there are no obvious negative side effects, addiction or withdrawls.
It IS NOT an opioid!!!!
It ACTS ON your opioid receptors. Big difference.

I have used it for months everday for injuries then stopped when the injury healed and didnt have any withdrawls etc...

USE it if needed but dont ABUSE it.

Its a tool, not a way to get high.

Get out of here with that noise we’re addicts and we’re telling war stories here


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no bro, you're taking it wrong lol


I hold a fuckingmasters degree when it comes to catching a buzz and if you can take 3 scoops of OF white hulu on a an empty stomach and feel nothing like a buzz, I will fly to you and do the same with you just tot prove your full of shit. we can video it lol

Do NOT read further if you're trying to kick kratom. There is your trigger warning.

The ONLY thing that happens if I take too much is nausea and maybe some eye wobble. I mean, if I've taken enough to get nauseous, I'm definitely not going to take more. 2 scoops of white is borderline nausea territory for me. Same with green and yellow. Red, I can take a mountain of it and never have an issue. I had one night I was fighting insomnia and took upwards of 30g (split in 2 doses about an hour apart) with no ill effects.

My favorite combo is a scoop of green and 2-3 scoops of red. This is an excellent dose for me and provides me a good "calm" feeling for 2 hours or so. I'll usually do that a couple of times in the late afternoon and cut off at 5pm. Depending on my anticipated insomnia level, I will do one or two doses of red at about 8g each. Usually at 8pm and again if necessary around 9:30pm.

Scoop = 1tsp or about 2.5g Which may or may not be level depending on feelz.
 
There are some guys that get rx pain killers and can’t take them because they either make them feel too sleepy or ill or have no effect on the pain. Those people also do not feel anything from kratom. It’s something to do with opiate receptors in your brain.

Then there are guys like me who would take 5 perc 10’s a day because they made me feel happy and high. Lol
 
There are some guys that get rx pain killers and can’t take them because they either make them feel too sleepy or ill or have no effect on the pain. Those people also do not feel anything from kratom. It’s something to do with opiate receptors in your brain.

Then there are guys like me who would take 5 perc 10’s a day because they made me feel happy and high. Lol
I fell off the wagon after my parents passed away a year from eachother. For a year straight I was taking 10-12 percs with 3-4 oxys. To try to numb the pain of my parents passing and to function and take care of the house and bills. Luckily for me I hired a therapist right after my parents passed and she got me into a rehab a year later. I was suicidal some weeks and so fucked up I could barley take a shower. I honestly thought when my parents passed that I would die or end my life due to the struggle to get beyond and live life and I almost did. One of the worst times of my life. Sorry for the story!
 
Get out of here with that noise we’re addicts and we’re telling war stories here


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Never mentioned you. Never mentioned anyone being an addict or telling war stories. I stated that I use it, how I use it, and that Ive read peoples statements about their use of high doses.
I think you quoted the wrong person.
 
There are some guys that get rx pain killers and can’t take them because they either make them feel too sleepy or ill or have no effect on the pain. Those people also do not feel anything from kratom. It’s something to do with opiate receptors in your brain.

Then there are guys like me who would take 5 perc 10’s a day because they made me feel happy and high. Lol

This is where my sick love affair started in high school. My friends mom would just give them to us. Until we all got hooked then she took total advantage of us. All of my friends would be crawling dope sick begging her for OCs, pawning everything we own… guns, guitars, that bitch took everything from us. One of my friends was even doing sexual favors for her.

I liked these more then heroin

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Never mentioned you. Never mentioned anyone being an addict or telling war stories. I stated that I use it, how I use it, and that Ive read peoples statements about their use of high doses.
I think you quoted the wrong person.

Naw man I was just busting your balls. I’m happy you’re able to be so responsible with the stuff. I was just saying a lot of us here though are addicts with a ridiculous compulsion for drugs….


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Naw man I was just busting your balls. I’m happy you’re able to be so responsible with the stuff. I was just saying a lot of us here though are addicts with a ridiculous compulsion for drugs….


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😎 Ive been there. Learned the hard way. Gettin old! 😄
 
This is where my sick love affair started in high school. My friends mom would just give them to us. Until we all got hooked then she took total advantage of us. All of my friends would be crawling dope sick begging her for OCs, pawning everything we own… guns, guitars, that bitch took everything from us. One of my friends was even doing sexual favors for her.

I liked these more then heroin

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Those are the best. I used to take a couple of those and a handful of percs and be in heaven. Glab im sober these day. Better off!
Was you friends mom at least decent looking back then?
 
Sometimes I think that’s the only way we truly learn… pain is essential for growth. Keep killing it brother!


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You too man 💪😎
 

She was a sewer rat absolutely disgusting that guy must have fucking hated himself so much when he was done…but he was faded so he didn’t care. And prob mid 50’s



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She was a sewer rat absolutely disgusting that guy must have fucking hated himself so much when he was done…but he was faded so he didn’t care. And prob mid 50’s



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That's so brutal! 🤮
 
She was a sewer rat absolutely disgusting that guy must have fucking hated himself so much when he was done…but he was faded so he didn’t care. And prob mid 50’s



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She still around? Ahem… asking for a friend….

Lol
 
I fell off the wagon after my parents passed away a year from eachother. For a year straight I was taking 10-12 percs with 3-4 oxys. To try to numb the pain of my parents passing and to function and take care of the house and bills. Luckily for me I hired a therapist right after my parents passed and she got me into a rehab a year later. I was suicidal some weeks and so fucked up I could barley take a shower. I honestly thought when my parents passed that I would die or end my life due to the struggle to get beyond and live life and I almost did. One of the worst times of my life. Sorry for the story!

Don’t apologize man. A lot of us have been here at some point or another. What matters is you knew you were fucked up and you refused to let your circumstances victimize your and did what you had to do to get better. Drugs are bandaids, that’s all. They just cover up the wound… I was going through the same crippling emotions after I left my wife. Just the weight of splitting up the family and the worry about my kids saftey really ruined me… I’m much better now though snd feel even better than I did before I left her. So hopefully you came out of that even stronger too!


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