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I haven't seen to many threads with people running these two together. My next cycle coming up I want to combine these two drugs with anavar(80-100mg/day), and at minimun 600mg of cyp/wk. I usually start out with 400mg/wk of tren E and move up slowly until sides hit me. Thought about starting out with 600mg/wk of Primo. I believe you need to run primo quite a few weeks to get the full effect, and a 600mg dose. I usually burn out with tren by week 12, and replace it with NPP.(at least that's what happened the last cycle) I generally have run the var 10-12 weeks. Also, I have plenty of hgh, so I'll be running it also. I should put on a good amount of lean muscle mass with this combination keeping my diet in order I'd think. I'll probably run this 18weeks at least. I'm experienced with gear, this isn't my first rodeo. Any thoughts on this combination?