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    After it kicks in Iíll lower deca , eq doses


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    I was more concerned about the Sust. dose..............I started at 500mg of Test and just went up this week.....I want 10-15 more pounds,before the switch-up............Test/Tren/EQ/DHB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankdoz View Post
    Sust - 1000
    Deca - 600
    Eq - 1200
    Dbol -25 pwo
    Drol- 25 pwo
    Test base - pwo
    Cialis 25 per day

    3500 cals gradually increase to 5000
    Train 5-6 days pw


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    If you train 6 days and do 100mgs test base on workout days, that's 3.6 grams per week.

    What's your experience with everything?
    Who laid this out for you?

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    So drop test base ! I did


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    I can save test base for cut . Test vase only last an hr in system


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    I dont see anything wrong with the amount of oils he is running because he said he has 12 years of experience and Iím sure has worked his way up to those levels. Everyone should work up to those amounts. And the more you can take the bigger you can get. The pros are DEFINITELY taking at least a gram of test while on blast. Itís ridiculous to think otherwise. Yes genetics plays in too but if you have a bunch of pros and they all have amazing genetics. Then the ones that ALSO take large amounts of gear are the ones that are going to win. And the ones that donít will get left behind. Thatís reality. A guy thatís super gifted that takes 500mg is not going to beat the guy thatís super gifted and take 1.5 grams.

    But like I said, you have to work up to it. And the OP clearly did. I myself have only ran test at 600 so far but Iím going to 800 next. And the blast after that I will probably do a gram. Maybe. Or stick to 800 again.

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    Should I drop test base I guess thereís no point if using orals


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    I'd use the Test base to push thru,if you hit a stalling point.......................are you going to run this mix the whole cycle or change up ??.maybe a polisher the last 6-8wks??

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    Yes might lower eq and deca half way through and add in mast


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    I'm dropping the Deca altogher.................but keeping the EQ maybe upping just a bit..Adding the DHB..going to try Some Tren-E again(low dose)!^ -18 wks on the EQ...gives you room to work................Not hell bent on the Tren,,,at my age it could be more risk than reward.............

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    dhb is nice but before long you wonít have a muscle group you can inject In lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by zionoir626 View Post
    I'm dropping the Deca altogher.................but keeping the EQ maybe upping just a bit..Adding the DHB..going to try Some Tren-E again(low dose)!^ -18 wks on the EQ...gives you room to work................Not hell bent on the Tren,,,at my age it could be more risk than reward.............
    I take small dose of tren e Ed


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankdoz View Post
    I take small dose of tren e Ed


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    Tren I meant


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    Frank,

    do you compete?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankdoz View Post
    I take small dose of tren e Ed


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    Be careful taking tren too much. Tren is a progesterone derivative. Not a testosterone derivative. Progesterone is female hormone and it can cause problem with you dick size, ball health, libido, erection problems. Lots of problems running tren too much. Iím not trying to be your dad or anything. Just do some research on the long term effects of tren. Tren doesnít just attach to androgen receptors like most steroids. It attaches to many different receptors including the ones in your nuts and dick. And this isnít a prolactin issue that you can avoid. Itís a progesterone issue that will come from long term use.

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