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Test, Deca, Tbol log

Marisol1973

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Well, this isn't really a log, just a rewiev of my past cycle. I supose I got 100% kick out of it.

Cycle: Test E 500wk, Deca 600wk, Tbol 50 ed last 6 weeks. Test, Deca pinning 2 x wk. Using Aromasin, Proviron, Caber from day 1. Blood work done wk 7.

Start point:



This start point was actualy after 12 week Test E only cycle and after PCT. 96kg (211lbs)

Nutrition:
3500cal, 250 protein, 250 carb 190 fat

Training: 6 day wk

Gear supplier used: PSL

PIP: non existent

So, started pinning twice a week, Test 250+Deca 300 combined in same sringe. No PIP what so ever.
After 2 weeks boost in libido is significant.
After 5 weeks a side effect of interupted sleep is present also peeing 2 times / night.
Strenght is going up 15%.

6 weeks point results:



Week 7 introducing Tbol, 50mg ed. N2Guard for organ protection + milk thistle liver support.
Blood work done. All is in order as it shoud be. Estradiol on higher end, so upping Aromasin a bit.

Week 8 sife effect in form of night sweats begin and interrupted sleep.

week 9 increase in strength is very noticable up to 30% I just could not believe, what was my max with 6 reps (I dont go below 6 reps, usually its 12-10-8-6 upping the weight) become my start 12 reps. Tbol working I would say.

A very painful side effect occures, lower back pump. Squat, hamstring curl, rows, all exercises including lower back activation are painful for that part of body.

Water retention is very obvious, abs lost definition, they are here, but not sharp. Loose of vaskularity on abdomen. I dont like this. Tbol is dry compound, so bloat is from Test Deca. On the other hand I like my shirts, jackets and pants are too tight. I am a biker, my leather pants hardly fit on quads, can not be stretched.

week 10-11 introducing pain killers for lower back pump, not too much but is takes away pain a bit.

My size is noticable in GYM and out of it and standard questions arize, "what are you on?" "you exploded" etc...

week 12 discontinuing Tbol, lover back pain is hard, a week before plan. It took 10 days to take away the pain.

result from cycle:



After last Test Deca pin, started with N2Generate, Cardarine, continuing Aromasin and Proviron and N2Guard.

2 weeks after last pin starting with Clomid and Nolva, continuing Aromasin, N2Guard, N2Generate, Cardarine, discountinuing proviron. Following PCT rules.
 
Looking sick bro! Glad you like the gear and had these awesome results with it! If you pulled any bloods would be awesome if you could post them up.
 
Nice!

Max
 
Looks solid man!!

Thoughts on the tbol?

It happened that 10 days after introducing Tbol to cycle strength went sky high. It was really sensational, I was going to my GYM session every day full of confidence as every time could lift a bit more. I supose it is connected with Tbol. Side effect of lower back pump was annoing and painfull. I did not mind interupted sleep ar night sweat, but lower back were killing me. I stopped it a week before plan, after 5 weeks. I stil have enough Tbol for one of future cycles and I will try again but in the beginning of cycle.
 
Forgot to say, I finished at 106kg (233lbs), that's 20lbs added mass. I know there's a lot of water retention, but at least its not a lot of fat. I still have some lower abs veins visible.
 
It happened that 10 days after introducing Tbol to cycle strength went sky high. It was really sensational, I was going to my GYM session every day full of confidence as every time could lift a bit more. I supose it is connected with Tbol. Side effect of lower back pump was annoing and painfull. I did not mind interupted sleep ar night sweat, but lower back were killing me. I stopped it a week before plan, after 5 weeks. I stil have enough Tbol for one of future cycles and I will try again but in the beginning of cycle.

Awesome review brother! I love me some PSL Tbol! I always get some crazy shoulder pumps from it.


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You have a very impressive build, especially for somebody who PCTs and comes off.
 
Nice work PSL is gold from the golden goose


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I've read, a lot of guys are not PCTing and comming completly off ger, but cruising on low test dose (like TRT) for like 2 months and then blasting again. Because PCT and off period is pain in the ass. I get it. But I see this as a life time sentence. If one takes this road for 2-3 or more years, is it really game ove for natural test production? Or you can make your way out of it?
 
I've read, a lot of guys are not PCTing and comming completly off ger, but cruising on low test dose (like TRT) for like 2 months and then blasting again. Because PCT and off period is pain in the ass. I get it. But I see this as a life time sentence. If one takes this road for 2-3 or more years, is it really game ove for natural test production? Or you can make your way out of it?

It can be. That is honest but, a lot of guys have had babies after cycling 5 years straight. It is a gamble and as you said; it could lead to lifetime TRT.....or not.

Max
 
Did you had dick issues? Looking great man!
 
Not looking for babies, I'm 46 and having two grown up boys, so no dipers for me again. But commiting for a life time seems scary from where I stand.
 
Not looking for babies, I'm 46 and having two grown up boys, so no dipers for me again. But commiting for a life time seems scary from where I stand.

Lmao. Definitely no more babies! Lol.

Max
 
Not looking for babies, I'm 46 and having two grown up boys, so no dipers for me again. But commiting for a life time seems scary from where I stand.

Given your age and steroid use continuing, it is just a matter of time. I am not trying to be negative, but natural testosterone drops off with age anyway, and you accelerate the process by using hormones.

By the way, I have even more respect for what you have built now that I know you are 46. Good job! :winkfinger:


I came off throughout my forties and have little kids at home (came off each time we went for pregnancy). I am full time TRT or blast and cruise now in my 50s. Test was in the high 200s.
 
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Given your age and steroid use continuing, it is just a matter of time. I am not trying to be negative, but natural testosterone drops off with age anyway, and you accelerate the process by using hormones.

By the way, I have even more respect for what you have built now that I know you are 46. Good job! :winkfinger:


I came off throughout my forties and have little kids at home (came off each time we went for pregnancy). I am full time TRT or blast and cruise now in my 50s. Test was in the high 200s.

My plan is to be active in this sport as long as possible, not abusing steroids, but using them safest way. For nex 10 years for sure, that is if my health aproves and for now it does.
Then, 10 years latter, visit the clinic, hop on TRT legaly. Sound like a good plan :)
But, boy, I can not imagine my self beeing small again, I mean normal. I am scared of that even imaginating it.
 
Wierdest thing happened today. Leg day.
Usually its squat, leg extension, leg press , calfs.
Hamstrings are 2 days apart.
Any way, my session was like, BOOOM , I found my self ading weight and doing lots of reps.

Inormaly I would do squat:
100kg ×16
110kg ×12
120kg×10
130kg×8
140kg×6

But today man it was like ....

100kg×20
110kg×18
120kg×15
130kg×12
140kg×10
150kg×8
160kg×5

I gelt I could go up to 200kg but I'm beeing nice to my knees.

This would not be wierd during cycle, BUT I am 2 whole weeks in my PCT.

Same happened with leg press, I usually go up to 450kg 10 reps, but today 500kg 10 reps x2. The machine have 400kg limit so I did not want to test its durance.

How the hell is this possible beeing 2 whole weeks in PCT!!??

I am using lota of compounds, N2Guard, N2Generate, Cardarine, Cialis 10mg, HGH 3.5 IU, AI, and now starting Nolva Clomid. In 2 weeks will also introduce Ostarine.

None of these compounds can not promote such blast in strength....
 
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Deca takes a awhile to leave your system bro. Might still be the deca helping out alittle?
 
Deca takes a awhile to leave your system bro. Might still be the deca helping out alittle?

Deca was discontinued 3 weeks agoo, I just prolonged Test E for a week (13th) to use it all up.
 
I've read, a lot of guys are not PCTing and comming completly off ger, but cruising on low test dose (like TRT) for like 2 months and then blasting again. Because PCT and off period is pain in the ass. I get it. But I see this as a life time sentence. If one takes this road for 2-3 or more years, is it really game ove for natural test production? Or you can make your way out of it?

Always a gamble... I ran TRT for a couple years straight, came off and recovered right back to where I was. No PCT, just stopped taking prescribed TRT. Total test around 600.


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Always a gamble... I ran TRT for a couple years straight, came off and recovered right back to where I was. No PCT, just stopped taking prescribed TRT. Total test around 600.


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Thanks for this info, makes me wanna try in future...
 
The first time I ran deca, I discontinued it two weeks before the testosterone. Then nothing for two weeks (so now four weeks from discontinuing Deca). Then I started PCT. I got stronger all the way through PCT. I thought I was having a great recovery. No. It was the Deca still working in my system growing muscle and strength. The crash came later.

"Deca was discontinued 3 weeks ago"

Deca from three weeks ago is still working, Marisol1973.

That's my two cents, based on my own experience.
 
The first time I ran deca, I discontinued it two weeks before the testosterone. Then nothing for two weeks (so now four weeks from discontinuing Deca). Then I started PCT. I got stronger all the way through PCT. I thought I was having a great recovery. No. It was the Deca still working in my system growing muscle and strength. The crash came later.

"Deca was discontinued 3 weeks ago"

Deca from three weeks ago is still working, Marisol1973.

That's my two cents, based on my own experience.

This is my first deca use (600mg wk). I've had Tbol 50mg ed too in this cycle, last 6 weeks, but I managed 5 wk only Tbol because of lower back pumps, it was painfull, so I let it go, it was full 4 weeks ago.
You may be right, all of these stil busting my performance.
 
PCT in 40s after Deca is a bitch. I'm just sayin'. I've done it. It takes a long time, so don't get impatient if you're really going to be "off." Deca sticks around a long time suppressing things.
 
PCT in 40s after Deca is a bitch. I'm just sayin'. I've done it. It takes a long time, so don't get impatient if you're really going to be "off." Deca sticks around a long time suppressing things.

Who would really want to be off, for fucks sake!? Hahaha
I would be on whole time. Would not be so healthy dough. So I get off.
This is why I am asking arroun about cruising.
 
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