I think most of us are past those; although msten is a strong af ( I believe an active steroid as well)Even if shit becomes inaccessible through ugl I’m pretty sure that’s no issue? Just start ordering the “prohormones” from the uk
dmz msten etc
Agreed. Might be a little tougher for a bit but I don’t think it’ll ever stop. Fetenayl hasn’t stopped
Passed em? Man U know me from another forum u just don’t know it.I think most of us are past those; although msten is a strong af ( I believe an active steroid as well)
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thoes are cool and all but that’s only two compounds. If there was absolutely no way to get anything else than I’m sure a bunch of guys would go that route but personally I don’t want to give up all the injectablesPassed em? Man U know me from another forum u just don’t know it.
ill never be past dmz or msten cuz they stronger than dbol so what’s a reason to drop em? Cuz they ain’t conventional? Nah these are some wicked strong compounds at the right dose. Besides they are both active steroids as are most “prohormones”
That was kind of my point.thoes are cool and all but that’s only two compounds. If there was absolutely no way to get anything else than I’m sure a bunch of guys would go that route but personally I don’t want to give up all the injectables
I'm not bashing you.Passed em? Man U know me from another forum u just don’t know it.
ill never be past dmz or msten cuz they stronger than dbol so what’s a reason to drop em? Cuz they ain’t conventional? Nah these are some wicked strong compounds at the right dose. Besides they are both active steroids as are most “prohormones”
My source emailed me last night telling me they will stop production on SOME raws but not all. This has happened before. I remember when raws came from Thailand then they outlawed it and then China filled that void. This is going back to 1999-2001. Yes Ive been making my own since then
It’s all bullshit guys and gals. Don’t believe what one or two sources are trying to sell you. Meanwhile I’ve seen the same source telling everyone to make sure they get their orders in and get into their customer list lol. This is as laughable as the impeachment probe. Don’t believe the bullshit.
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With the way the Chinese economy is going I highly doubt they're going to make it illegal, they are the worlds largest outsourced with a plethora of raw material for, vitamins, medications including hormones, electronical parts, the list goes on.. they supply the globe at every corner, whether it's large corporations for underground market..
Their economy is in some serious trouble so I highly doubt, anything on this scale is going to be removed.. it would shut down too many facilities, even facilities that are owned by lobbyists that support politicians in their country..
With the way the Chinese economy is going I highly doubt they're going to make it illegal, they are the worlds largest outsourced with a plethora of raw material for, vitamins, medications including hormones, electronical parts, the list goes on.. they supply the globe at every corner, whether it's large corporations for underground market..
Their economy is in some serious trouble so I highly doubt, anything on this scale is going to be removed.. it would shut down too many facilities, even facilities that are owned by lobbyists that support politicians in their country..
This whole raw supply was boosted during the obama administration to stimulate local economy.
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Hey doomed by any chance did he specify what raws they will stop making. We have to keep in mind that they produce other drug analogs . Most of these factories opened from the synthetic boom (gas station drugs) and thats where their sales remained.
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Ugl's have been around a lot longer than Obama..lol
There is some powerhouse Labs on the market today that are OG's from the very early 2000s.. Obama wasn't even heard of.. but how did Obama administration stimulate this when he came in office in 2009, and during 2007 there was "Operation real deal" which was targeted at the black market bringing down a lot local and international labs?
I think you have your facts a little distorted..
Exactly. This is absolutely happening, and the real problem is not the actual production of raw materials I don't think, it's with the parcel carriers not allowing the products to be shipped through them. It's really just an extra step in the shipping process to keep the contents discreet, but will inevitably cause issues. Remember, the Chinese have much less civil rights to things like due process of law so search and seizure is much easier than it is here. Which will effect parcels leaving the country. It's just the extent that were unsure aboutWell I think we've established that this is a real thing going on in China, the problem is nobody really knows exactly how much this will affect Supply.
It definitely is. I also think it's absolutely a show/posturing for the Winter Olympics next year. Once that's over they'll probably quit enforcing it. But we really don't know. It will still be available but the prices are going to get much higherFor those of you who think this isn't true.
Get on the line with your favorite Supplier in China and ask to buy some CLEN raws.
They will tell you that it is impossible to source, and that the punishments for them possessing is so harsh, they want nothing to do with it.
Then they will offer you remaining tabs that they are aware of, that once they run out, are gone.
This is really happening with many compounds.