I'm not a professional body builder; I just want to add some strength and size while avoiding major sides. I think it gets forgotten at times how strong these compounds are. By no means bashing anyone who goes extreme, mind you. My thought process is tren is roughly 3xs stronger than test. Let's dose the tren at roughly 1/3 of what we do the test. I also think mixing up the vulnerable organs makes sense. Dbol and winstrol stress the liver, so let's put those on opposite ends of the cycle. Rather than ED at max recommended length, how about reducing the toxicity by running them shorter and reducing accumulation by giving the liver an extra day to process what's used. This is my first cycle with tren, so I went with ace in the event of a reaction. Leaning heavily on diet, routine, and test. The others I see as boosters. So that's a look into my thought process. Thanks again for everything GGG, you all have a repeat customer in me!