DUTCHPHARMA
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You are going to see some drastic changes. I personally recommend Ace for a first run. In and out really fast. If you encounter unwanted sides (which is quite possible) you can bail fast.I've got 4 cycles under my belt and in a few weeks will be ordering my first Tren run. Even though it's my first I'm leaning towards Hex but we will see.
Right? Turns me into a paranoid ass sometimes.Love the effects on my physique
hate the effects on my brain
Great answer haha.Both.
Definitely one of the harshest injects out there. Can't argue that it's the best bang for your buck typically, but it comes with a hefty set of risks.Love the positive effects, hate the negative ones. Overall I like it but I'll probably be using it much less moving forward because of the increased health risk compared to other drugs
God, those night sweats are awful!Love it the but Tren sweats and insomnia are tough.
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Haha turns you into a demon in the sack? Ladies love the tren.I personally love tren !!
It makes me feel unstoppable and can completely change your physique in one run if you work at it and your diets right. Just wish it wasn’t so harsh and i could run it year round.
And you can kill it in the bedroom for hours on tren so gotta love that !!
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Agree.Great drug. Not for everyone.
That parabolan was the bees knees. If only we could get our hands on some of the initial runs of parabolan it would be a game changer. Stuff stung like a mother but killer stuff!I hate tren. I mean it made my physique look like magic back in my competition days. But I am that guy that gets every single side effect, depression, anxiety,sweats, hair loss, oily skin, moods, acne, sweating, cough.
All of it. Hate it. Parabolan was out of this world when I ran it back in the day even at like 200mgs EW.
I liked NPP at low dose, it seemed to act very similar in some regards and I had no sides at all.
That and DHT is my favorite of all.
I agree. Keep it safe unless you're all in!I have personally only ever got the night sweats from it and one time had tren cough but mostly just a little tightness and tickle in my throat. Maybe a tiny bit of acne but insomnia, anxiety, and hair loss hasn't affected me. Ya sex drive is up on it but it hasn't hurt my relationship I have with a woman older than me. So in all i dont mind running it but I typically prefer to just run things like test, deca or npp, dbol or drol occasionally, and proviron.
If I keep my total tren dosage to around 200mg/wk I usually get more reward than risk. Over that and I start to get more sides which just cause it to suck more!I love it personally of course the down side is insomnia and night sweats and I feel like it does make you a little edgier but if you go into it knowing that for me at least it’s not a problem and the results speak for themselves understandably it affects us all different the nature of the beast unfortunately
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Hate it. I have nothing good to say about Tren. I'll never use it again, and I've used it quite a bit. LOL...."why?" you say? The only reason I used it, (I think I used it for 5 or 6 cycles) was that when I first tried it back in 2002, I was converting it from cattle pellets because I did not want to walk up to someone I didn't even know in soe gym, and ask to buy AAS. So Tren was the only thing I had available since I chose not to get AAS from some dealer. And I wasn't even aware of online methods back then. So I was determined to experiment enough with it in hopes of finding the right dosage and the right cycle methods that would work for me.
Then fast forward to 2015/2017, I decided that maybe my lack of results from Tren back in 2002/2003 were due to there being no Test stacked with it. I saw guys posts on here raving about Tren, so I decided to get more cattle peelets, and finally get some Test too, and stack the two together. I was on a relatively light test dosage with the Tren, (about 300 mg weekly I think). Still nothing but side effects like I received with it back in 2002. So then I purchased Tren justto see if it might have been my home brewing techiques that were off which might be holding my postive results back, (even though I still was experiencing most of the side effects from Tren, which was an indication that the potency of my homebrew was just fine).
Then I tried Tren one more time, and stacked it both Test, and Mast, but after 6 weeks, I still just got side effects. No strenght gains, no muscualr gains, no vasularity increases, no accelerated fat burning effects. Just ankle swelling, night sweats, temper flares, mega muscle cramps, and endurance loss. All negative. Tren sucks as far as I'm concerned, and I've done better with things like inj Anadrol, and even now with inj S-drol. I know that everyone is different, but overall, I think Tren is the most overrated compound in this game, ever since the late, infamous,whacko Dan Duchaine spoke about Tren as being the best AAS known to mankind,back in the early or mid 90's (what a joke that guy was). BTW, I confirmed wit before,and after blood work that Tren actually decreaded my T3 during it's use, which the exact opposite of what you want while cutting up
BTW, I really wonder how many guys on here share my viewpoint on Tren, but just won't chime in here due to any fear of others being in disagreement. But I really don't care about that. This isn't a popularity contest for me. So disgaree all you want.That's OK. The thread has asked for opinions concerning love or hate for Tren, and count me on the Hate side of that.
No they didn't. Not the ones I used. There were two brands/two forms of it. One DID contain Estradiol,(as you have indicated) and the person converting it had to use extra steps in the conversion procedure, to get rid of the E, but the other type, did NOT contain any hormone other than Trenbolone Acetate. Furethermore, your point is moot also because the last two Tren cycles I was on, did NOT include tren from any pellets at all, but were from sources here, which gave me the same sides, and the same lack of results that the pellets didNope youre doing something wrong, and cattle pellets in 2015 contain progesterone or estrogen along with acetate tren
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No they didn't. Not the ones I used. There were two brands/two forms of it. One DID contain Estradiol,(as you have indicated) and the person converting it had to use extra steps in the conversion procedure, to get rid of the E, but the other type, did NOT contain any hormone other than Trenbolone Acetate. Furethermore, your point is moot also because the last two Tren cycles I was on, did NOT include tren from any pellets at all, but were from sources here, which gave me the same sides, and the same lack of results that the pellets did
I respect your experience but with Tren being 4x more anabolic than Test I don’t see how you couldn’t get any results at all from it unless your diet and training were trash.
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That's just on paper. Things on paper don't always pan out in the real world. The more experience you get with AAS use, the more you'll see that's true.I respect your experience but with Tren being 4x more anabolic than Test I don’t see how you couldn’t get any results at all from it unless your diet and training were trash.
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Well said. As I've previouly stated, I've had better results from inj Anadrol and inj S-drol than I ever had from Tren.Compounds doesent work for everyone the same.......
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Haha, yeah, like you said, even if it is 5x more anabolic and 5x's more androgenic, that is only on paper. Again, it won't correlate to exactly 5x's the amount of gains. Is it more potent mg for mg? Absolutely. Is it going to be a game changer? It can be, but again YMMV.Oh man...I got nostalgic for the pellets. And TD is correct, not all of them had "extra" hormones. All you had to do was drop the blue antibiotic pellet.
And tren is supposed to be 5x test...on paper. YMMV It *is* potent, don't get me wrong. Just don't necessarily expect 5 pounds lean muscle mass gain on tren vs 1 pound lean mass gain on test.
I'm 99% certain I'll never use tren again. Night sweats, insomnia, high bp, etc just aren't worth it. Tren is for young studs, not old bulls.
I personally love tren !!
It makes me feel unstoppable and can completely change your physique in one run if you work at it and your diets right. Just wish it wasn’t so harsh and i could run it year round.
And you can kill it in the bedroom for hours on tren so gotta love that !!