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    Quote Originally Posted by Daark View Post
    Sounds awesome man thanks!
    Yea I actually have 2 lbs of red and white vein kratom, but I just couldn't zero in on a dose that didn't make me nauseous.

    alprazolam is ok for clearing my head, but it makes me drowsy the next day.

    Not the most healthy way to go about things, but I kind of wish I could just by the ambien powder and increase my dose as needed. I know that is not a good road to go down.

    Anyway, I look forward to trying this combo!
    Yeah, Im not thrilled about the "script" meds for sleep, but I only use them for sleep, and never at any other time... They actually don't hit me hard, they just "clear" my thoughts, and man does it slow the racing thoughts..
    Far as the red, 4g is a nice spot and you can mix it with chamomile tea and honey..
    Im hoping to ditch these meds in the next few months..

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    Quote Originally Posted by HFO3 View Post
    it varies...If Iím tired I only take 100mg GABA and 100mg 5HTP. If not, I double the GABA, keeping HTP the same lights out and zzzz. Also worth mentioning, If I wake up through the night, and feel wide awake, I take another 100mgs GABA and that does the trick.

    Something else worth mentioning, I wake up at 5am everyday and this never leaves me hungover or drowsy, itís very easy to rise and shine so to speak
    Now that's something like No-Doz but without the grogginess in the morning. Most times I sleep well but there's times I need something to shut my brain down so that I could sleep. Could try this cocktail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmac View Post
    What about gabapentin? I have probably 500 or more 300mg pills
    Stay away from gabapentin unless you absolutely need it and the benefit outweighs the risks. Read the list of side effects. It's a long list and very likely to occur. I'm almost positive that coming off of gabapentin is what messed with the respiratory center in my brain and caused my central sleep apnea problems. I may also have a sudden cardiovascular issue that developed at exactly the same time suddenly 4 days after stopping. I also have had recurring derealization issues that started the day after I stopped dosing that have gotten somewhat better but are still persisting after 6 weeks.

    That's real life experience. Gabapentin is a serious drug with very real and dangerous physiological and psychological side effects. That shit may have fucked me up permanently

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    Stay away from gabapentin unless you absolutely need it and the benefit outweighs the risks. Read the list of side effects. It's a long list and very likely to occur. I'm almost positive that coming off of gabapentin is what messed with the respiratory center in my brain and caused my central sleep apnea problems. I may also have a sudden cardiovascular issue that developed at exactly the same time suddenly 4 days after stopping. I also have had recurring derealization issues that started the day after I stopped dosing that have gotten somewhat better but are still persisting after 6 weeks.

    That's real life experience. Gabapentin is a serious drug with very real and dangerous physiological and psychological side effects. That shit may have fucked me up permanently
    Gabapentin is absolutely garbage and they over prescribed it for many different things and they over abused its off-label properties..
    They had me on 1300'ish around that number. On a cocktail of other medication for depression. It was ridiculous for their reasoning. It was supposed to stop the impulses with my thought process. That stop bang me up a little bit and when I came off I felt like I was having microseizures.. I absolutely did not need that stuff and in fact my case was pretty mild it was just seasonal depression, something I'm diagnosed with and I deal with I build a bridge and get over it.. when I got educated on what the stuff was that doctor never seen me again. Under no circumstance that I fit any criteria that the drug was beneficial to me.. some doctors are absolute scumbags.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    Stay away from gabapentin unless you absolutely need it and the benefit outweighs the risks. Read the list of side effects. It's a long list and very likely to occur. I'm almost positive that coming off of gabapentin is what messed with the respiratory center in my brain and caused my central sleep apnea problems. I may also have a sudden cardiovascular issue that developed at exactly the same time suddenly 4 days after stopping. I also have had recurring derealization issues that started the day after I stopped dosing that have gotten somewhat better but are still persisting after 6 weeks.

    That's real life experience. Gabapentin is a serious drug with very real and dangerous physiological and psychological side effects. That shit may have fucked me up permanently
    The VA hands that out like they do trazodone. For pretty much everything from anxiety depression sleep problems mood stabilizer alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmac View Post
    The VA hands that out like they do trazodone. For pretty much everything from anxiety depression sleep problems mood stabilizer alternative.
    That is absolutely awful man.. that's what a lot of these doctors do.. it's awful stuff..

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    Quote Originally Posted by craigmac View Post
    The VA hands that out like they do trazodone. For pretty much everything from anxiety depression sleep problems mood stabilizer alternative.
    Yup. That's where I got it from. It's gnarly, nasty shit man. I was taking it for unbearable sciatic pain from hurting my back so I could sleep. Stuff messed me up. I don't like trazodone either. I got that derealization from it while I'm on it. Weird to feel like reality is shipping away from you. Not something I like

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    Quote Originally Posted by GarlicChicken View Post
    Yup. That's where I got it from. It's gnarly, nasty shit man. I was taking it for unbearable sciatic pain from hurting my back so I could sleep. Stuff messed me up. I don't like trazodone either. I got that derealization from it while I'm on it. Weird to feel like reality is shipping away from you. Not something I like
    Many moons ago I was on Seroquel and trazodone at the same time.
    A lot of these medications are needed for the right situations but at the same time they're over-prescribed.

    It really takes me a lot when I ultimately make the decision to go on any type of medication for a particular treatment or instance, because large pharma likes to push these things down our throats.. but at the same time some people do need these medications with mental struggles..
    Knowing the difference, and having the ability to decipher what is pill pushing compared to legitimate treatment is pivotal. here fill out this questionnaire and tell us how you feel!!!! Those days are done for me I don't play them games. The majority of us here are many steps ahead of the game because we are consciously aware of what's going on and we do our research.. unfortunately for those that are ignorant and unbeknownst to them they get taken advantage of..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    Many moons ago I was on Seroquel and trazodone at the same time.
    A lot of these medications are needed for the right situations but at the same time they're over-prescribed.

    It really takes me a lot when I ultimately make the decision to go on any type of medication for a particular treatment or instance, because large pharma likes to push these things down our throats.. but at the same time some people do need these medications with mental struggles..
    Knowing the difference, and having the ability to decipher what is pill pushing compared to legitimate treatment is pivotal. here fill out this questionnaire and tell us how you feel!!!! Those days are done for me I don't play them games. The majority of us here are many steps ahead of the game because we are consciously aware of what's going on and we do our research.. unfortunately for those that are ignorant and unbeknownst to them they get taken advantage of..
    Absolutely. I'm very reluctant to take a doctor's word for anything these days without a thorough review of the diagnosis or medication myself. Especially medications. Big pharma pushes their crap while bribing doctors to avoid legitimate remedies in favor of their medications to treat symptoms. The CKD thing is a perfect example. Big pharma got pyridoxamine, a natural form of B6, labeled as a drug so you can't get it as a supplement. It prevents the formation of AGEs, a huge factor in kidney disease. Now it's only labeled use is for "diabetic nephrosis" and anyone with regular CKD can't get it. Just like CKD can't be treated, when in fact it can with herbal supplements. No money in that though!

    But I agree, these medications are necessary. Just way over prescribed. There's always a risk vs benefit analysis that needs to be done that seems to be a forgotten part of medical practice...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    Gabapentin is absolutely garbage and they over prescribed it for many different things and they over abused its off-label properties..
    They had me on 1300'ish around that number. On a cocktail of other medication for depression. It was ridiculous for their reasoning. It was supposed to stop the impulses with my thought process. That stop bang me up a little bit and when I came off I felt like I was having microseizures.. I absolutely did not need that stuff and in fact my case was pretty mild it was just seasonal depression, something I'm diagnosed with and I deal with I build a bridge and get over it.. when I got educated on what the stuff was that doctor never seen me again. Under no circumstance that I fit any criteria that the drug was beneficial to me.. some doctors are absolute scumbags.
    Yes I had that stuff too after a severe head injury due to a bad fall that triggered the return of bouts of depression. Had a bad time with that as it turned me into a zombie. Fuck that and wouldn't want anyone touching that without a thorough exam to determine suitability.

    Took me some years to get back to a sane stable state and even to return to the gym after that accident.
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    The natural remedies DO work much of the time and not these Big Pharma pushed garbage that turns out to be dangerous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MindlessWork View Post
    Yes I had that stuff too after a severe head injury due to a bad fall that triggered the return of bouts of depression. Had a bad time with that as it turned me into a zombie. Fuck that and wouldn't want anyone touching that without a thorough exam to determine suitability.

    Took me some years to get back to a sane stable state and even to return to the gym after that accident.
    Good golly man I had no idea you went through that.. I'm sorry to hear about that brother.
    Natural remedies, holistic treatments and Asian medicine took me a long time to even consider because the reality is it's been shrouded and there was a blanket over my eyes that was created by propaganda and I was the exact type of person that the government has been trying to create..
    As I got older and out of desperate measures I have resorted to natural remedies but not so because these old ways of treatment we're now becoming the new trend but rather because of desperation.. I've honestly had more success with using natural remedies and medications that are inexpensive and can be purchased worldwide effortlessly.. all the medications that the government restrict really have never worked miracles on me other than accutane...
    And like chicken said they start regulating everything and anything that they can get their hands on to make a profit. When garlic was mentioning about the regulation of that one specific treatment that totally blew my mind and I was unaware of that..
    That shows exactly how the criminal empire operates .

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    Thank you!! Will order right now some. When do you take dosages? Before sleep? Would it make you lethargic if you take before training?

    And if it increase you HGH to 480%..how much that would be for a healthy 25yr male? Like how much IU(i know we all diff but guess)

    And if I take bigger dosage does it mean ig gonna increase HGH even more? Or ? Thanks!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tren4life1994 View Post
    Thank you!! Will order right now some. When do you take dosages? Before sleep? Would it make you lethargic if you take before training?

    And if it increase you HGH to 480%..how much that would be for a healthy 25yr male? Like how much IU(i know we all diff but guess)

    And if I take bigger dosage does it mean ig gonna increase HGH even more? Or ? Thanks!!

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    I honestly don't think it will increase your HGH that much however it will increase it to where your next bleed will be even greater.. the best time to take it is before sleep.. that's what it has it's next interaction with your next pulse . It's hard to gauge and tell when people are going to have a pulse but it's almost guaranteed it will happen when you're sleeping that's why it's recommended to take before sleeping also because of its resting and relaxing properties. 750 is a pretty good amount and you can take it two hours before you go to sleep. You may notice that you get a little bit flush like you took niacin, I would suggest taking it with melatonin.. although I think melatonin is worthless by itself but it has great property when used in conjunction with Gaba.. you can take it during the daytime and like I said above prior it will not knock you out but you will feel relaxed. You won't be nodding out but you're just feel at a calm State and a sense of well-being..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vision View Post
    I honestly don't think it will increase your HGH that much however it will increase it to where your next bleed will be even greater.. the best time to take it is before sleep.. that's what it has it's next interaction with your next pulse . It's hard to gauge and tell when people are going to have a pulse but it's almost guaranteed it will happen when you're sleeping that's why it's recommended to take before sleeping also because of its resting and relaxing properties. 750 is a pretty good amount and you can take it two hours before you go to sleep. You may notice that you get a little bit flush like you took niacin, I would suggest taking it with melatonin.. although I think melatonin is worthless by itself but it has great property when used in conjunction with Gaba.. you can take it during the daytime and like I said above prior it will not knock you out but you will feel relaxed. You won't be nodding out but you're just feel at a calm State and a sense of well-being..
    Thanks for good explanation pumpkin.. will be using that on cycle before bed together with mk677,hexarelin and modgrf.... Could be good mix ha?

    I think I ak starting cycle monday

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